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Songs That CHR Missed..

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What songs do you think CHR/Pop missed and is either A) still ignoring or B) playing, but months after its release date?

IMO, something most CHR stations missed (including my own, but we're now playing) is the Killers - Somebody Told Me.<P ID="signature">______________
Aaron Tyler
Nights / MD
WVZA / Marion - Carbondale, IL
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Weekends / Swing
KSLZ / St. Louis
WAKZ / Youngstown, OH
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> What songs do you think CHR/Pop missed and is either A)
> still ignoring or B) playing, but months after its release
> date?
>
> IMO, something most CHR stations missed (including my own,
> but we're now playing) is the Killers - Somebody Told Me.
>
Green Day - Wake Me Up When September Ends for B.

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> > What songs do you think CHR/Pop missed and is either A)
> > still ignoring or B) playing, but months after its release
>
> > date?
> >
> > IMO, something most CHR stations missed (including my own,
>
> > but we're now playing) is the Killers - Somebody Told Me.
> >
> Green Day - Wake Me Up When September Ends for B.

It's just now getting worked at CHR.
 
> > What songs do you think CHR/Pop missed and is either A)
> > still ignoring or B) playing, but months after its release
>
> > date?
> >
> > IMO, something most CHR stations missed (including my own,
>
> > but we're now playing) is the Killers - Somebody Told Me.
> >
> Green Day - Wake Me Up When September Ends for B.
>

Not necessarily... It was just pushed within the past couple weeks.

Boulevard... Holiday... Wake Me Up.. from this album.<P ID="signature">______________
Aaron Tyler
Nights / MD
WVZA / Marion - Carbondale, IL
LISTEN LIVE! www.kissfm927.com

Weekends / Swing
KSLZ / St. Louis
WAKZ / Youngstown, OH
</P>
 
> What songs do you think CHR/Pop missed and is either A)
> still ignoring or B) playing, but months after its release
> date?
>
> IMO, something most CHR stations missed (including my own,
> but we're now playing) is the Killers - Somebody Told Me.
>

As someone without MD experience, I can't necessarily say whether a certain song deserved to flop because I don't know callout, research, etc... but I remember seeing Three Days Grace's "(I Hate) Everything About You" in power or decent rotation on stations like KDWB and KRBE around the time it peaked, and even afterwards, Z100 powered it, which leads me to believe it was a hit that most CHR's just kinda missed. I'm also thinking that Rob's latest could be added to this list, judging by its predeccesor's run, I think they could have given it a little more time.
 
> > > What songs do you think CHR/Pop missed and is either A)
> > > still ignoring or B) playing, but months after its
> release
> >
> > > date?
> > >
> > > IMO, something most CHR stations missed (including my
> own,
> >
> > > but we're now playing) is the Killers - Somebody Told
> Me.
> > >
> > Green Day - Wake Me Up When September Ends for B.
>
> It's just now getting worked at CHR.
>


My picks:

Better Than Ezra- A Lifetime
Cherry Monroe- Satellites
<P ID="signature">______________
"Growing old, and living for the moment."
~Rufio</P>
 
> My picks:
>
> Better Than Ezra- A Lifetime

...which was released in (drum roll) 2001!

My favorite in this category is from quite a few years back. "When I'm With You" by Sheriff peaked at #1 on Billboard's Hot 100 in February of 1989. Seven years after it was originally released. SIX YEARS AFTER THE BAND SPLIT UP! Go figure...
 
> My picks:
>
> Better Than Ezra- A Lifetime
> Cherry Monroe- Satellites

These are two of my favorite songs that have been worked to CHR this year. "A Lifetime" should have been a huge hit earlier in the year. It's one of those pop/rock songs that would have taken right off if one or two big stations had picked it up. Sadly no one took that chance.

I loved "Satellites", but I didn't see it being a huge hit.
 
"Wouldnt It Be Good" by Nik Kershaw

Song stiffed out in the mid 40's on Billboard's Hot 100. It was largely ignored by CHR's during the spring of 1984. During the doldrums of the early 90's...many CHR's "rediscovered" the song and put it back into their rotation. Great freakin' song.

"You Can Do It" by Ice Cube

Some smart CHR's played it back in 1999-2000 (i.e. Jason Kidd's Hot 107.9, Syracuse). The song came back strong in 2004. Pretty much all the big CHR's put it back into their Gold category. Kiss/Chicago had it in as a current for a few weeks it was testing so well.

"Rich Girl"-Louchie Lou

Stiffed in '99 (?, that sounds about right) and was one of Z100's famed "comeback" records (Ice Cube etc...). Most stations dropped it when Gwen came out with her quasi-cover version.

"What You Want"-Mase

Q102 and Wired in Philly brought back this one late last year. Never really took off when it came out in '98 (or was it '97?).

"808 (Remix)"-Blaque

One of those songs that never charted very high but has become somewhat of a CHR "staple". Frustrating to listeners, since the version on the CD is a compLETEly different song.

"In Your Eyes"-Peter Gabriel

Originally released in 1986 (as the follow-up to "Sledgehammer", hit #26) and then again in 1989 (from the movie, "Say Anything", peaked in the 40's)...it stiffed both times. The more intuitive programmers knew it was a special song and chose to play it. But most CHR's ignored it, both times.

Great topic. There's plenty of others. I always thought "On & On" by The Longpigs (1998) should've been a HUGE hit (a la the Goo Goo Dolls)...but it got nowhere.
 
> > > > What songs do you think CHR/Pop missed and is either
> A)
> > > > still ignoring or B) playing, but months after its
> > release
> > >
> > > > date?
> > > >
> > > > IMO, something most CHR stations missed (including my
> > own,
> > >
> > > > but we're now playing) is the Killers - Somebody Told
> > Me.
> > > >
> > > Green Day - Wake Me Up When September Ends for B.
> >
> > It's just now getting worked at CHR.
> >
>
>
> My picks:
>
> Better Than Ezra- A Lifetime
> Cherry Monroe- Satellites
>
I was surprised CM didn't get a hit. They were great live, I met them and they were awesome in person and did a phenomenal show for our station. BTE did fairly well, they charted on an INDIE label, that takes a lot.<P ID="signature">______________
^_^
Sing me something soft
Sad and delicate</P>
 
agreed on

Better Than Ezra- A Lifetime
Cherry Monroe- Satellites

TOP OF LIST OF CHR MISSED ....

Sum 41- Pieces (Zone in Norfolk, loves it)
Killers- All things she done (Q 94 in Richmond plays it alot)
Green Day- American Idiot
Ingram Hill- Almost Perfect (Q 94, great live 2)
Lasgo- "Something" and "Alone" and "Surrender"
NB Ridaz f/ Angelina- Notice Me ( i see some stations picking up, at least Zone in Norfolk has)
Seether- Remedy
Breaking Benjamin- So Cold (crossfade did it, same type of song here)
Britney Spears- Someday (I will Understand) - huge on MTV
Brooke Valentine f/ Lil Jon- Girlfight
Kanye West- "Diamonds" and "Gold Digger" and "Through the Wire"
Jimmy Eat Wold- Work
Trick Daddy f/ Lil Jon- Let's Go
Ying Yang Twins- Badd and Wait (Whisper Song)
The Calling- Our Lives (right timing, prom, not promoted)
Mandy Moore- Have A Little Faith In Me (amazing song, and pop, o yes)
Story of the Year- "Anthem of Our Dying Day" and "Sidewalks" and "Until the Day i Die"
Trapt- Still Frame (better than headstrong, hell yeah)
Vanessa Carlton- White Houses (so upbeat,catchy)


Others:

anything by 3 Days Grace
Collective Soul- cannot remember title (this yr)
Unwritten Law- Save Me
Aaron Carter- Saturday Night (i can hear it now, but it was a good song)
Frickin A- Jessie's Girl
Acceptance- Different
American Hi-Fi- The Geeks Get the Girls
Daddy Yankee f/ Pitbull & N.O.R.E. - Gasolina
Keith Urban- You're My Better Half (yes country, but pop enough to make it)
David Banner- Play
R Kelly- Trapped in CLoset (girls love this track)
Relient K- Be My Escape
Sarah Connor- From Zero to Hero ( better than Bounce, yet Bounce makes it - go figure)
Slipknot- Duality (younger would like it)
Sugarcult- Memory (anythin by them really)
TI f/ Jay- Z- Bring Em Out
Trey Songz f/ Twista- Gotta Make It
Bowling for Soup- Almost
Britney Spears f/ Ying Yang Twins- (I Got That) Boom (brings rap and pop togehter, heard it Hot 995 in DC)
Britney Spears- Shadow (much better than Outrageous, never released)
Chantal Kreviazuk- Weight of the World (catchy)
Good Charlotte- We Believe ( best song by them, sad)
Lindsay Lohan- Over (great slow follow to Rumors)
Lostprophets- Last Train Home
Ludacris- Get Back and # 1 spot
Martina McBride- This One's For the Girls (catchy)
Michelle Branch- Find Your Way Back To Me ( why not realese this track?)
New Found Glory- All Downhill From Here (pop, yes, maybe alittle alt, but cathcy)
The Rasmus- In The Shadows (catchy, hell yes)
Ryan Cabrera- 40 Kinds of Sadness (upbeat after True)
Simple Plan- Shut Up! (much better than winey Untitled)
Young Buck- Shorty Wanna Ride
 
What a list. Geez. Not all of those could have been hits. Here's my picks from that list...

Green Day- American Idiot
Brooke Valentine f/ Lil Jon- Girlfight
The Calling- Our Lives (right timing, prom, not promoted)
Story of the Year- "Until the Day i Die"
3 Days Grace - I Hate Everything
Aaron Carter- Saturday Night (i can hear it now, but it was a good song)
Sugarcult- Memory (anythin by them really)
Lostprophets- Last Train Home
Simple Plan- Shut Up! (much better than winey Untitled)


Trick Daddy f/ Lil Jon- Let's Go... umm how was this not a hit? Not sure what it got to, but I think Top 20.
Kanye - "Gold Digger" hasn't crossed yet. Just starting to now.


And mine that aren't mentioned...

Tamia - Still
Jem - They (Q100 Atlanta plays it in Mix shows)
Avril - Who Knows
The Features - Blow It Out
Jack Johnson - Better Together (could be coming)
Tommy Lee - Good Times (I think it's catchy... sounds like Nickelback)
BEP - True (great remake)
Five for Fighting - 100 Years
Stereo Fuse - Everything (we powered it here 2 or more years ago... still get calls about it when I play it)
Daniel Beddingfield - Never Gonna Leave YOur Side (#1 in England, never went for adds here I don't think)
Linkin Park - Somewhere I Belong
N.E.R.D. - She Wants to Move
Fefe Dobson - Everything & Take Me Away<P ID="signature">______________
Russ
APD/Middays
97-3 KISS FM (WAEV)
Savannah, GA</P>
 
Crossfade - Cold was HUGE in the markets that gave it a chance. Granted, it had a fairly decent second wind, but it should have been bigger. I also think Trapt's "Echo" should have been every bit as big as Headstrong.
 
If you'll allow me to toot my own horn...

> Great topic. There's plenty of others. I always thought "On & On"
> by The Longpigs (1998) should've been a HUGE hit (a la the Goo Goo
> Dolls)...but it got nowhere.

The Irish pop music group whom I have named my ID after -- Westlife -- has a large collection of U.K. hits and album tracks which could be a success on this side of the pond, if only if they were given a fair chance.

Westlife did score a #20 U.S. hit with the pop ballad "Swear It Again" in 2000, but the subsequent death of pop music left their follow-up attempt, the uptempo "World Of Our Own" in 2002, largely ignored, with very little radio airplay despite strong praise from New York'z Z-100 and L.A.'s Kiss-FM.

Here are some of Westlife's song which I feel could best appeal to an American audience in today's musical atmosphere:

Pop Ballads:
Flying Without Wings (1999 UK Record Of The Year, later covered by American Idol winner Ruben Studdard)
Mandy (2003 UK Record Of The Year; Barry Manilow cover. There is also a very good uptempo Dance Remix of this song.)
Obvious (#3 UK hit in 2004)

Pop-Rock:
Bop Bop Baby (#5 UK hit in 2001; note that the album version has more of a Rock sound than the UK single version)
To Be With You (2003 album track; Mr. Big cover)

Uptempo Pop:
Uptown Girl (#1 UK hit in 2001; Billy Joel cover)
Thank You (2003 album track)
No More Tears (Enough Is Enough) (duet with Donna Summer)
Turnaround (2003 album title track)

R&B-ish Pop:
Hey Whatever (#4 UK hit in 2003)
Imaginary Diva (2001 album track; unsuspecting listeners will probably be quite surprised to learn that the lead singer, Mark Feehily, is white and Irish!)

Country:
Daytime Friends (recorded in Nashville in 2003 & played on WSIX with much listener praise; Kenny Rogers cover. A traditional Country sound; they didn't attempt to "pop-ify" it.)

OK, I think that's enough tooting for now! :)

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> What a list. Geez. Not all of those could have been hits.
> Here's my picks from that list...
>
> Green Day- American Idiot
> Brooke Valentine f/ Lil Jon- Girlfight
> The Calling- Our Lives (right timing, prom, not promoted)
> Story of the Year- "Until the Day i Die"
> 3 Days Grace - I Hate Everything
> Aaron Carter- Saturday Night (i can hear it now, but it was
> a good song)
> Sugarcult- Memory (anythin by them really)
> Lostprophets- Last Train Home
> Simple Plan- Shut Up! (much better than winey Untitled)


yeah like the sound of that !!!


> Trick Daddy f/ Lil Jon- Let's Go... umm how was this not a
> hit? Not sure what it got to, but I think Top 20.
> Kanye - "Gold Digger" hasn't crossed yet. Just starting to
> now.

I think Trick Daddy could have been bigger, but that is me

> Avril - Who Knows

Great song here....love all of Avrils' songs.

> Tommy Lee - Good Times (I think it's catchy... sounds like
> Nickelback)

Coming up here now, really like this song

> Five for Fighting - 100 Years

ok, not into it, but could be a like a Gavin Degraw (which not into either)

> Linkin Park - Somewhere I Belong

ANYTHING BY LP, some songs are too hard but alot of songs could have made it


> And mine that aren't mentioned...
>
> Tamia - Still
> Jem - They (Q100 Atlanta plays it in Mix shows)
> The Features - Blow It Out
> Jack Johnson - Better Together (could be coming)
> BEP - True (great remake)
> Stereo Fuse - Everything (we powered it here 2 or more years
> ago... still get calls about it when I play it)
> Daniel Beddingfield - Never Gonna Leave YOur Side (#1 in
> England, never went for adds here I don't think)
> N.E.R.D. - She Wants to Move
> Fefe Dobson - Everything & Take Me Away

DO not know any of em...<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by vaboi83 on 09/10/05 12:32 AM.</FONT></P>
 
> Crossfade - Cold was HUGE in the markets that gave it a
> chance. Granted, it had a fairly decent second wind, but it
> should have been bigger. I also think Trapt's "Echo" should
> have been every bit as big as Headstrong.

Still Frame was great two.
 
- Rupee, Tempted To Touch
- Maria, I Give, You Take
- Kiley Dean, Who Will I Run To
- The Calling, Our Lives
- Red Hot Chili Peppers, Otherside
- Goo Goo Dolls, Give A Little Bit
- Three Days Grace, Just Like You
- Pretty much every dance song in existence other than D.H.T.

LOL, I keep on remembering like 2 at a time...
 
> > What songs do you think CHR/Pop missed and is either A)
> > still ignoring or B) playing, but months after its release
>
> > date?
> >
> > IMO, something most CHR stations missed (including my own,
>
> > but we're now playing) is the Killers - Somebody Told Me.
> >
>
> As someone without MD experience, I can't necessarily say
> whether a certain song deserved to flop because I don't know
> callout, research, etc... but I remember seeing Three Days
> Grace's "(I Hate) Everything About You" in power or decent
> rotation on stations like KDWB and KRBE around the time it
> peaked, and even afterwards, Z100 powered it, which leads me
> to believe it was a hit that most CHR's just kinda missed.
> I'm also thinking that Rob's latest could be added to this
> list, judging by its predeccesor's run, I think they could
> have given it a little more time.
>

CHRs are currently missing Rise Against's "Swing Life Away"...I love that song, but I guess it's not true CHR, but it would fit in some stations. CHR also missed "All Falls Down" by Kanye West, should've got A LOT more airplay than it did.
 
> agreed on
>
> Better Than Ezra- A Lifetime
> Cherry Monroe- Satellites
>
> TOP OF LIST OF CHR MISSED ....
>
> Sum 41- Pieces (Zone in Norfolk, loves it)
Love It
> Killers- All THESE THINGS THAT I'VE DONE (Q 94 in Richmond plays it
> alot)
It was a bit too indie.
> Green Day- American Idiot
Loved it, actually one of my favorites from GD.
> Ingram Hill- Almost Perfect (Q 94, great live 2)
Huh?
> Lasgo- "Something" and "Alone" and "Surrender"
Yeah this was missed.
> NB Ridaz f/ Angelina- Notice Me ( i see some stations
> picking up, at least Zone in Norfolk has)
LOVE IT!!!!
> Seether- Remedy
Seether is more like System Of A Down than Evanescence.
> Breaking Benjamin- So Cold (crossfade did it, same type of
> song here)
Nickelback-ish, it's ok.
> Britney Spears- Someday (I will Understand) - huge on MTV
This was missed but I'm happy it was missed.
> Brooke Valentine f/ Lil Jon- Girlfight
This got some airplay, it wasn't totally left out but should've been bigger than top 30.
> Kanye West- "Diamonds" and "Gold Digger" and "Through the
> Wire"
Gold Digger is on the chart right now, it's gonna be huge.
> Jimmy Eat World- Work
Too catchy and boy band-ish. Overly pop version of Fall Out Boy. I personally didn't like it.
> Trick Daddy f/ Lil Jon- Let's Go
??? This song was gigantic, what do you mean it was missed?
> Ying Yang Twins- Badd and Wait (Whisper Song)
Wait (Whisper Song) should've been gigantic. Not a fan of Badd.
> The Calling- Our Lives (right timing, prom, not promoted)
Same answer.
> Mandy Moore- Have A Little Faith In Me (amazing song, and
> pop, o yes)
Yeah, this should've been big but here's why it wasn't: She's doing something out of her league. She's adding all this jazz and stuff and it's so different from her older Britney Spears stuff that CHR avoided her. Sad, one of my favs from her.
> Story of the Year- "Anthem of Our Dying Day" and "Sidewalks"
> and "Until the Day i Die"
Should've been bigger.
> Trapt- Still Frame (better than headstrong, hell yeah)
I thought Echo was better than Still Frame.
> Vanessa Carlton- White Houses (so upbeat,catchy)
Not enough for CHR, but it's a great song.
>
>
> Others:
>
> anything by 3 Days Grace
See Seether's "Remedy"
> Collective Soul- cannot remember title (this yr)
Better Now? Yeah it's good but it's 100% Hot AC.
> Unwritten Law- Save Me
Like it.
> Aaron Carter- Saturday Night (i can hear it now, but it was
> a good song)
*cough* uh...no.
> Frickin A- Jessie's Girl
It sounded too much of the original.
> Acceptance- Different
They're new. Their next CD will probably be big with promotion.
> American Hi-Fi- The Geeks Get the Girls
Yeah, it had weird lyrics. Then again, so did 1985 by BFS.
> Daddy Yankee f/ Pitbull & N.O.R.E. - Gasolina
YES! YES! BEST SONG OF 2005!!!
> Keith Urban- You're My Better Half (yes country, but pop
> enough to make it)
Not really.
> David Banner- Play
Don't say it's missed just yet.
> R Kelly- Trapped in CLoset (girls love this track)
It was way too R&B.
> Relient K- Be My Escape
Since they were a Christian band they got the treatment that Live and Tobymac got.
> Sarah Connor- From Zero to Hero ( better than Bounce, yet
> Bounce makes it - go figure)
Say what?
> Slipknot- Duality (younger would like it)
CHR isn't going to play goth music...ever. But I LOVED the acoustic version of Vermillion...that would've been great for CHR.
> Sugarcult- Memory (anythin by them really)
Love Sugarcult.
> TI f/ Jay- Z- Bring Em Out
LOVE THIS JAM!!
> Trey Songz f/ Twista- Gotta Make It
Huh?
> Bowling for Soup- Almost
Yeah, so was Ohio.
> Britney Spears f/ Ying Yang Twins- (I Got That) Boom (brings
> rap and pop togehter, heard it Hot 995 in DC)
Wasn't a single.
> Britney Spears- Shadow (much better than Outrageous, never
> released)
Same as I Got That Boom Boom.
> Chantal Kreviazuk- Weight of the World (catchy)
Huh?
> Good Charlotte- We Believe ( best song by them, sad)
I liked it.
> Lindsay Lohan- Over (great slow follow to Rumors)
I wish Very Last Moment In Time was a single.
> Lostprophets- Last Train Home
Ok.
> Ludacris- Get Back and # 1 spot
Yeah, everything from Red Light District was missed.
> Martina McBride- This One's For the Girls (catchy)
Too country.
> Michelle Branch- Find Your Way Back To Me ( why not realese
> this track?)
Huh?
> New Found Glory- All Downhill From Here (pop, yes, maybe
> alittle alt, but cathcy)
Didn't like it.
> The Rasmus- In The Shadows (catchy, hell yes)
Huh?
> Ryan Cabrera- 40 Kinds of Sadness (upbeat after True)
The chorus was suffering.
> Simple Plan- Shut Up! (much better than winey Untitled)
Hell yeah!
> Young Buck- Shorty Wanna Ride
No.
>
 
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