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Songs that CHR said were hits that really weren't...

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john77

... since we have the one thread on songs that should have been "hits", lets go the other way... what songs were hits at CHR that really had no business being hits at the format?

The one that comes to mind right of the top of my head is:

"Gallery" - Mario Vasquez... suspicious, suspicious, suspicious. This song lost it's bullet how many times? 4? It may have peaked at #6 on the Pop chart back on 10/22/06, but was anyone really requesting it? People certainly weren't buying this "popular" song? The single peaked at a paltry #31 on the sales chart, moving about 300,000 units total. The album did even worse, spending all of 2 weeks on the Soundscan charts, peaking at #80 in it's first week, selling just over 23,000 units total.

I also noted some numbers from a particular station as it was peaking on another music forum:

"Some "interesting" airplay numbers from one station:

WRVQ-FM Richmond Top 40 57 44 13 24 1 5 6 21 0.137

21 spins in the night hours and 24 in overnights, but only 12 in the other 3 dayparts... Interesting... you see dayparting on a lot of stations, but this looks a little excessive to me. "

It's pretty obvious to me what happened with Mario... I hate that it still goes on in the industry, but it is what it is.

"Ain't No Other Man" by Christina Aguilera and "Touch My Body" by Mariah Carey also don't seem worthy of the top 10 positions they reached at the format. Neither called out well and their chart runs were both a little suspicious looking.

What other songs are out there masquerading as "hits" at the format?
 
Touch My Body was not a hit, in my opinion. I was one of the last, if not the last, CHR to add the song and it stiffed in our research. Leona Lewis' "Bleeding Love" was a better Mariah Carey song than Mariah had for herself.

K~
 
"Womanizer" by Britany Spears doesn't sound like a hit to me. Mediocre - and that's being charitable. I would think that CHR audiences would be getting tired of her by about now.
 
Even though I love "You Are The One" it was never a hit. So why exactly is that song relevant to this particular topic? Are you just being sarcastic in your remarks in the threads you chose to respond to? ???
 
I liked you are the one and we did test it, but it didnt stick.


Im my opninion,, I dont know if this was more of a rhythmic stiff, but they kept pushing that Shawty she's a ten, so many times, and it never did research good.
 
CHRles said:
Even though I love "You Are The One" it was never a hit. So why exactly is that song relevant to this particular topic? Are you just being sarcastic in your remarks in the threads you chose to respond to? ???
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I read his post the same way... I have no idea why it was posted. Maybe he was drunk? Drunk internet surfing may be hazardous to your health! :eek:
 
karsonwithak said:
Touch My Body was not a hit, in my opinion. I was one of the last, if not the last, CHR to add the song and it stiffed in our research. Leona Lewis' "Bleeding Love" was a better Mariah Carey song than Mariah had for herself.

K~
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Word...

Now only if Mariah could still hit those notes like she used to she could have sung "Bleeding Love." It's clearly outside of her vocal range now though. :eek:
 
Wind It Up - Gwen Stefani
Fall Out Boy - This Ain't a Scene
MIA - Paper Planes
 
1900radio said:
Wind It Up - Gwen Stefani
Fall Out Boy - This Ain't a Scene
MIA - Paper Planes
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"Wind It Up" though wasn't a hit! It got to #18 and peaked in it's 6th week on the chart. It spent all of FIVE weeks in the top 30... yes, 5! And trust me, you don't want to see the callout scores on this one.

"This Ain't A Scene" was a moderate hit at best... a #14 peak and 10 weeks in the top 20.

As for "Paper Planes," personally I really abhor the song but at least it did manage to sneak into the top 10. That said, it getting that high is suspicious to me as I didn't see it crack the top 15 either at Mediabase or RTM (heavy Idol fanbase voting) callout once.
 
I think the reason "Paper Planes" hit top 10 was that many stations expected better research from it. The song had a huge starting bullet, left its peak area rather quickly, and skyrocketed downward the chart.

And vice versa, "This Ain't A Scene..." stayed in the top 30 for almost four consecutive months. The same showed with "Viva la Vida" by Coldplay this year.
 
jradiod said:
I think the reason "Paper Planes" hit top 10 was that many stations expected better research from it. The song had a huge starting bullet, left its peak area rather quickly, and skyrocketed downward the chart.

And vice versa, "This Ain't A Scene..." stayed in the top 30 for almost four consecutive months. The same showed with "Viva la Vida" by Coldplay this year.
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"Viva La Vida" though definitely seemed like a hit. It sold VERY well, and did well in markets where it was given a chance. Interestingly, it made many top 10 appearances in the RTM callout, but not a single top 15 appearence in Mediabase. "This Ain't A Scene" really didn't sell all that well, and never climbed above #18 in Mediabase callout, sitting mostly in the mid-20's. It also did have a couple of top 10 appearances in RTM's callout. Once again, we have to take the RTM numbers with a grain of salt though as they're heavily fanbase influenced. I honestly think the label was REALLY pushing for this song to be a hit. It was the first single from the new album and didn't do nearly as well as "Sugar We're Goin' Down" or "Dance, Dance"... the 2nd single from that album, "Thanks fr th Mmrs" had a higher peak (#13) and was on the top 50 chart the same length of time (21 weeks)... it also called out quite a bit better than the first single, with several top 5 appearances in RTM's survey and it mostly hung out in the 18-20 range in Mediabase. Usually when a second single can spend as many weeks on the chart as the first single, it's a bigger hit.
 
I think "Ain't No Other Man" is definitely the one that sticks out to me. Mario Vazquez may have been an atrocity of a song, but he did a TON of radio shows. Political and shady, yes, but that's part of the business. I got decent phones on it when I played it though, so it's not like the song was a giant turd on the face of radio.

My mind is blanking on anything else right now. It's Monday.
 
jjmac said:
I think "Ain't No Other Man" is definitely the one that sticks out to me. Mario Vazquez may have been an atrocity of a song, but he did a TON of radio shows. Political and shady, yes, but that's part of the business. I got decent phones on it when I played it though, so it's not like the song was a giant turd on the face of radio.

My mind is blanking on anything else right now. It's Monday.
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Yeah, I've heard that from other people "in the biz" about "Ain't No Other Man"... something fishy definitely happened with that one. Even people not in the industry are aware of what happened with this one. Would be nice if Christina could actually do some good music again - her new single is stiffing even worse than ANOM did!

As for Mario, that's a good point you make about the appearances he did. He did have a pretty good fanbase from American Idol which probably can account for some of the decent phones... That said, it still didn't sell worth beans.
 
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