Tell all of that to your little cheerleader (ok walters). He seems to think that they could do no wrong, and that it was the format that was the only thing wrong with that station. You just shattered his theories into a billion little pieces.
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Songs You Remember And Like But Never Get Played
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I am (only) 50 and remember him well, but only from the stations that I previously mentioned.
Yeah, I get that music is secondary to small stations like that. Isn't that (kinda sorta) what I said before?
As a board op, I actually liked carrying those games even MORE than being a live dj! Easy money! But the music fan in me (the listener) still prefers the music. I am not going to be seeking out sports programming when I am off-duty.
I joked that a local AM station here could have probably stayed on the air, had they figured out a way to make high school football a 24/7 format!
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The ones that I really liked were the ones that COULDN'T ever "go national" because they had something in them (like the names of local towns, or local radio stations, etc.) that would not exactly translate to a national audience. There was one that was a statewide (minor) hit here in TN, but I won't go into that one. At any rate, I had a thread here about such local songs not too long ago. And someone here even sent me the Memphis version of "High School USA," which was a hit four years BEFORE I was born!
That's great, and that's why you have a personal mp3 player. Radio is not in that business anymore. Back in the 60s and 70s, personal devices weren't as plentiful or as easy to operate. All that changed 25 years ago. As I've said throughout this thread, radio is the free sample. It's just to give you a taste.
One of my faves was one that was just a glorified station jingle. They played it for (I know) at least 15 years! They could probably still play it (and maybe even still do) except that it might sound dated for a hot AC station (which they are) now.
Looks like a pretty good city-wide signal to me!
http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WLVU&service=FM&status=L&hours=U
But of course, if you are on the wrong side of a ridge, any signal will break up. But that is true of almost any signal in middle Tennessee.
Still a better signal than 92Q (which they kept), but yeah, this one is just an urban format, so probably enough signal for them. I don't think I can get it here.
http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WQQK&service=FM&status=L&hours=U
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I love the way that anyone in any field of speciality claims that it was the people in his field who made all the difference in anything happening. To hear people involved in programming radio stations talk, it was the station programmers who made FM take over from AM. Listen to them, and they'll never give any credit to the introduction of affordable stereo systems that included FM radio. They'll never acknowledge that Detroit switching to making all car radios AM/FM instead of AM only made a difference. They'll never acknowledge how many new radios or FM converters were sold to people who wanted to hear the exciting new music on "underground" radio. They'll never acknowledge that once you've spent any amount of time hearing the improved sound quality of FM stereo broadcasts over static-filled, mono AM audio quality, you're not going back to AM.
A taste is great, except we do not need a REPETITIOUS taste. Mix it up!
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No "shattering" of anything - YOU brought up a station that failed, not me. You could have brought up one that was successful, but you brought up a station that is now another format. Then you bring up three more, but still add "all three have their faults", whatever that means. So the bottom line is you don't know any station anywhere that actually pleases you. That speaks volumes. As I said before, you would be best served with an Ipod.
You're once again bringing in your very specific and personal taste.
Not really there are more people out there that feel the same way than you are willing to admit to.
This isn't a personal thing for me. It's my job. It's work. So it has nothing to do with being "willing to admit" anything. I know the statistics, and I have real numbers with names attached, not someone's personal opinion. If I'm wrong, it's my job. Understand?
Burns, you're right. Big A and others have failed to realize that there are more listeners of good music than realized. They believe the ones on this thread that want the music, are the only music fans that exist. 300 million+ people in this country and a good portion of them love their music and have their OWN favorites and are not hearing them. We're not saying play songs that charted #57, #32 or #99, we're saying play the majority songs that charted well (top 20). Only about 10-15% of the top 20 charted hits from 1968 to 1985 are being played, if that. Thousands of songs, left untouched and ignored. EVERY song is playable, it just has to be managed and played AT THE RIGHT TIME.
And the "taste" that Big A refers to, are even fewer than the 10%, since they are repeated frequently. Classic hits radio is in such disrepair, it needs an overhaul. "Hotel California" (a great song, no question), but played 4 times a day on KRTH, give me a break!
Let's see, 19 minutes air time wasted and another six, three minute songs could have aired instead, that could have been lost hits or other good songs.
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Show me certified numbers. I mean the kinds of numbers with names attached. Then tell me what I've failed to realize.
I've been doing this for a living for a while. You've never done it. And you're trying to tell me that you know my job better than me.
I have no problem accepting facts. But you're trying to dispute my numbers with your opinions, and that just won't work.
We don't need to provide numbers. Just talk to anyone on the street or anywhere and they will tell you that their favorites are rarely or never aired and that they are tired of the same thing. Human nature, not robotics.
You need to provide numbers if you want to do it for a living. As I keep telling you, this is not a hobby for me. I get paid for this. And as I've said, we don't program radio stations to be used the way you're doing it. You're driving a car made for the road in the lake and asking me why it keeps sinking. That's why.
As I said, it only covers 60% of the Metro Survey Area (Nielsen) with a city grade signal and totally misses the three southernmost metro counties.
No, we are in agreement. They got around a 3 share with little effort while the station was in a trust... On a marginal signal. We're it a full signal, it would have had about a 5 share, which is excellent!!!!
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