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was there ever a Spanish speaking TV station in Chicago in the mid 70's?
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Prais said:
WSNS & WCIU both had Spanish programming. I remember those bullfights on Saturday nights.
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radioman148 said:
the reason i asked... sometime in the mid-70's i DXed a fuzzy episode of "Rocky & Bullwinkle" from Muncie Indiana that was in Spanish, i was guessing that it might have come from chicago. (and, NO i wasn't smoking something)
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Dont forget then WPWR 60 was also WBBS TV 60 a spanish tv station at night
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lugnuts6 said:
this was in the daytime and it wasn't UHF, no cable, it was over the air.
cspotrun said:
Well if it was in the 70s it very well could've been WSNS TV--44 which did run programming like that.
cspotrun said:
If it wasn't UHF, then it couldn't have possibly come from Chicago or anywhere else in the US other than maybe south Texas.
But you said you were in Muncie IN, which means (unless you had a rotator) your TV antenna was probably pointed SW toward Indianapolis. If that's the case (and I'm guessing, of course), then maybe it was a Mexican station coming in via E-skip. I was able to get some of those in Bloomington during that era - sometimes even overriding semi-local WTWO Ch. 2 Terre Haute if I turned the antenna southwest (we did have a rotator). There was a lot of good E-skip in the early '70s during the summer.
KeithE4 said:
I know of only six mainland U.S. VHF stations which have carried Spanish-language networks. All six are of recent development -- none were on the air in the 1970s.
Some normally-English stations used to carry a few Spanish-language programs. (KIII-3 in Corpus Christi still does) I don't think cartoons would have been part of the lineup though.
I'm pretty sure "cspotrun" is right: you were seeing a Mexican (or Cuban) station via sporadic-E skip.
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(FWIW the six stations in question:
KFTU-3 Douglas, Ariz. (Telefutura)
KMOH-6 Kingman, Ariz. (mtv3)
KVYE-7 El Centro, Calif. (Univision)
KUNO-8 Fort Bragg, Calif. (Azteca America)
KTRG-10 Del Rio, Tex. (I list as HTVN but I understand that network to be defunct?)
KUTF-12 Logan, Utah (Telefutura)
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KeithE4 said:
i had no rotator, it was in the "Stone age" with rabbit ears, on an old Zenith B&W set, my first thought was its gotta be a TV station from Mexico, and heck, maybe it was?
Spanish TV Stations Chicago
Until 1985, Chicago had NO full-time Spanish station. WCIU ran Spanish programming daily after 5 or 6 PM from Spanish International Network (now Univision). On Weekdays they ran Business News before 4 PM and religious shows from 4 to 6 PM at some points as well as maybe 6 to 7 AM on weekdays. On Saturdays, WCIU ran alot of religious shows till about Noon. All their religious shows were in English. From Noon till about 6 or 7 PM WCIU ran many ethnic brokered shows. On Sundays they ran English speaking religion till about 3 PM and ethnic brokered shows till about 7 PM.
WCIU ran Spanish shows in the evenings till about 2 or 3 AM, about 8 hours a day total. Channel 60 signed on in 1982 as WPWR with Subscription Sports shows till 6 PM daily and as Net Span (Now Telemundo) Spanish shows WBBS after 6 PM also about 8 hours a day.
So Chicago had one part time Spanish station in the 70's and beginning in 1982, 2 part time Spanish outlets. Channel 60 became a sedate independent station with very old shows from the 40's and 50's and old cartoons from the 50's and 60's as WPWR from 2:30 AM till 6 PM in 1983 and WBBS-TV remained Spanish Net Span the other 8 hours at that point. In 1985 the WPWR portion of the station evolved to a more traditional independent with more 60's shows and newer cartoons.
In July of 1985, WSNS which was a low budget independent from 1970 to 80 and a part time independent/part time subscriotion TV station from 1980-82 and a Full time Subscription TV station from 1982-85, took SIN/Univision full-time. So finally in July of 85, Chicago got a full time Spanish Outlet. WCIU simply replaced SIN/Univision with Net Span/Telemundo that July. WBBS pulled back Spanish programs to 6 hours on Saturday and 6 hours on Sundays, and became WPWR-TV 24 hours a day Mon-Fri. The Spanish programs on WBBS were at this point only SPanish movies. Eventually by 1986, WPWR was a traditional Independent 24/7 and moved to Channel 50 in 1987 and HSN took over Channel 60 at the same time.
Chicago continued with 1 and 1/2 Spanish Stations until 1995. By 1988 Telemundo occupied WSNS full-time and Univision was now part time evenings on WCIU. In 1995 Univision would acquire WGBO 66 and that station would become Spanish 24/7 giving Chicago 2 full time Spanish outlets finally. WCIU would than become an English Speaking traditional independent full time in 1995.
Chicago got a third Spanish outlet in 2002 with Channel 60 becoming telefutura.
Until 1985, Chicago had NO full-time Spanish station. WCIU ran Spanish programming daily after 5 or 6 PM from Spanish International Network (now Univision). On Weekdays they ran Business News before 4 PM and religious shows from 4 to 6 PM at some points as well as maybe 6 to 7 AM on weekdays. On Saturdays, WCIU ran alot of religious shows till about Noon. All their religious shows were in English. From Noon till about 6 or 7 PM WCIU ran many ethnic brokered shows. On Sundays they ran English speaking religion till about 3 PM and ethnic brokered shows till about 7 PM.
WCIU ran Spanish shows in the evenings till about 2 or 3 AM, about 8 hours a day total. Channel 60 signed on in 1982 as WPWR with Subscription Sports shows till 6 PM daily and as Net Span (Now Telemundo) Spanish shows WBBS after 6 PM also about 8 hours a day.
So Chicago had one part time Spanish station in the 70's and beginning in 1982, 2 part time Spanish outlets. Channel 60 became a sedate independent station with very old shows from the 40's and 50's and old cartoons from the 50's and 60's as WPWR from 2:30 AM till 6 PM in 1983 and WBBS-TV remained Spanish Net Span the other 8 hours at that point. In 1985 the WPWR portion of the station evolved to a more traditional independent with more 60's shows and newer cartoons.
In July of 1985, WSNS which was a low budget independent from 1970 to 80 and a part time independent/part time subscriotion TV station from 1980-82 and a Full time Subscription TV station from 1982-85, took SIN/Univision full-time. So finally in July of 85, Chicago got a full time Spanish Outlet. WCIU simply replaced SIN/Univision with Net Span/Telemundo that July. WBBS pulled back Spanish programs to 6 hours on Saturday and 6 hours on Sundays, and became WPWR-TV 24 hours a day Mon-Fri. The Spanish programs on WBBS were at this point only SPanish movies. Eventually by 1986, WPWR was a traditional Independent 24/7 and moved to Channel 50 in 1987 and HSN took over Channel 60 at the same time.
Chicago continued with 1 and 1/2 Spanish Stations until 1995. By 1988 Telemundo occupied WSNS full-time and Univision was now part time evenings on WCIU. In 1995 Univision would acquire WGBO 66 and that station would become Spanish 24/7 giving Chicago 2 full time Spanish outlets finally. WCIU would than become an English Speaking traditional independent full time in 1995.
Chicago got a third Spanish outlet in 2002 with Channel 60 becoming telefutura.
Removed content -- was mostly duplicate with Markd's very thorough post.
w9wi said:
Correct, HTVN is defunct, having declared bankruptcy in July 2002. Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanic_Television_Network (I'll vouch for the article - I wrote it.)
Un otro Ve-Ache-Efe estacion en español: KFPH-13 Flagstaff, AZ (Telefutura). Also recent - since 2002.
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