pick up Savage to follow Furman? Seems to me with Mancow and Humphries both live, and being on FM, they should be able to make a play for Savage. The exact same thing happened in Salt Lake when a new upstart FM rimshot stole Savage from the strong #2 talk station KNRS, owned by CC. Now that FM station is gone, and everyone saw it coming. Why not talk listeners from KRC rather than 1530 and 'MOH, and maintain a cohesive format. Dump SNR from 7-9, run Savage til 10, Rusty til 1am. While there's not much of a home for sports overnight, I also think John and Jeff, who do well on Boston's 96.9 FM Talk (featuring all RW talkers during the day) would do well with the Mancow demo and serve as a good lead-in. Run them live from 1-6am and perhaps actually bring some younger listeners in at night, when there are more young people listening to the radio.
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Speaking of Furman, why doesn't 96.5
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I agree with getting Savage from KRC. It would be a better show to follow Furman. Also running Dave Ramsey from 2 to 4pm doesn't make sense as his show attracts an audience that will not stay tuned to sports talk.
If I was programming the station, I pick up Tom Leykis and run him 10-1am. As for 2-4pm, Why not sign Tim Big Dog Lewis who is back in town.
I'm not big on Rusty Humphries but you could plug it in overnights which would be better than SNR.
If I was programming the station, I pick up Tom Leykis and run him 10-1am. As for 2-4pm, Why not sign Tim Big Dog Lewis who is back in town.
I'm not big on Rusty Humphries but you could plug it in overnights which would be better than SNR.
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ilovescotch
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No way...KRC just gave all 3 hours of Savage live! Which is what he probably wanted. It's not going to matter since the Furman thing will only last a year until the owners realize they overpaid for no ratings and go back to syndication to save that money.
Also did you see the billboards Dave Ramsey bought? Classy. Have to buy your own billboards? Well...It worked for Jerry Springer...
Also did you see the billboards Dave Ramsey bought? Classy. Have to buy your own billboards? Well...It worked for Jerry Springer...
major said:I wish Bruce Williams could find a home in Cincinnati somewhere, even if 10-midnight or so.
Bruce Willliams--is he still on the air??? His show is definitely a great on-the-road show. I haven't heard it in years. Gosh, how old is he. He's gotta be pushing 80-something by now.
He's on a few stations.....not like he was when syndicated by W One. His syndicator now is Lifestyle Radio Network. Ever heard of it? Me neither. His best coverage is through XM. He might also be on Sirius, I'm not sure. His kind of show does not grate on me like many others.
I used to listen to talk, especially WKRC, almost all day. I just can't take it anymore. I've gone three weeks with no political talk. My psyche is the better for it.
I'm very glad to see Andy is going to be back. I wonder if this means 96.5 will get a sports/news department to go along with this?????
I used to listen to talk, especially WKRC, almost all day. I just can't take it anymore. I've gone three weeks with no political talk. My psyche is the better for it.
I'm very glad to see Andy is going to be back. I wonder if this means 96.5 will get a sports/news department to go along with this?????
"He's on a few stations.....not like he was when syndicated by W One. His syndicator now is Lifestyle Radio Network."
Many of the shows pay. It's the "lifestyle" counterpart to co-owned Business Talk Radio Network, with more brokered shows.
"No way...KRC just gave all 3 hours of Savage live! Which is what he probably wanted. It's not going to matter since the Furman thing will only last a year until the owners realize they overpaid for no ratings and go back to syndication to save that money."
Umm, 7-10pm is two hours live, and it's on FM, and the station is clearing two other shows that no one else in the market wants. Be good to those who help you out - KRC does nothing for TRN because Ingraham and Savage would be cleared elsewhere if they dropped them. Not so for 96.5's shows. I've never heard a caller from 'KRC on Savage, ever. Hannity gets a number of them, and I rarely listen to him. Live is important, especially to TRN, but it's really not that big of a deal when you're on 370 stations and take relatively few calls anyway. (BTW, Savage has been on from 6-9pm ET for more than two years, now, and 55 just moved him up to live because Jim Cramer no longer does a show. Their hand was forced)
"Also did you see the billboards Dave Ramsey bought? Classy. Have to buy your own billboards? Well...It worked for Jerry Springer..."
If he wants to buy billboards, why not? It's a good way to get clears without actually paying for the time. It's hard being syndicated independently when you can't use other shows to force feed another. Plenty of networks do it. It just so happens to Ramsey is not only the host but the top manager at his company that syndicates him.
"I agree with getting Savage from KRC. It would be a better show to follow Furman. Also running Dave Ramsey from 2 to 4pm doesn't make sense as his show attracts an audience that will not stay tuned to sports talk."
You do have a point. Although, Dr. Laura, who is among the top shows with women 25-54 in LA, wouldn't make the best lead in for two guys screaming about illegal immigration. But it does increase cume and sources of revenue. I'd personally prefer the third hour of Beck on delay, Ramsey prefed from 1-2, and then live from 2-4. Cutting O'Reilly out of the equation would lead to midday TSL among younger and female listeners and not cause turn-out that might not come back.
"If I was programming the station, I pick up Tom Leykis and run him 10-1am. As for 2-4pm, Why not sign Tim Big Dog Lewis who is back in town."
Leykis is a talent, of which is seemingly a crime to say these days, but doesn't belong here. FM talk should reach out to non-traditional talk audiences (which Leykis does, at the expense of alienating others) which at least Cumulus realized with a couple of the shows.
"I'm not big on Rusty Humphries but you could plug it in overnights which would be better than SNR."
Rusty isn't there because he's a talent. He's there because the Dickeys are cheap and TRN gives them a discount off the hundreds of thousands they charge for Mancow by clearing him (which again, they need as top 50 market clears for, and this was their only chance in Cincy, if not all of OH). That being said, SNR is weak, unless you consider that there is a part of the market that basically has no sports station thanks to the preach-n-teach block starting at midnight (1am now?) on CKY.
Many of the shows pay. It's the "lifestyle" counterpart to co-owned Business Talk Radio Network, with more brokered shows.
"No way...KRC just gave all 3 hours of Savage live! Which is what he probably wanted. It's not going to matter since the Furman thing will only last a year until the owners realize they overpaid for no ratings and go back to syndication to save that money."
Umm, 7-10pm is two hours live, and it's on FM, and the station is clearing two other shows that no one else in the market wants. Be good to those who help you out - KRC does nothing for TRN because Ingraham and Savage would be cleared elsewhere if they dropped them. Not so for 96.5's shows. I've never heard a caller from 'KRC on Savage, ever. Hannity gets a number of them, and I rarely listen to him. Live is important, especially to TRN, but it's really not that big of a deal when you're on 370 stations and take relatively few calls anyway. (BTW, Savage has been on from 6-9pm ET for more than two years, now, and 55 just moved him up to live because Jim Cramer no longer does a show. Their hand was forced)
"Also did you see the billboards Dave Ramsey bought? Classy. Have to buy your own billboards? Well...It worked for Jerry Springer..."
If he wants to buy billboards, why not? It's a good way to get clears without actually paying for the time. It's hard being syndicated independently when you can't use other shows to force feed another. Plenty of networks do it. It just so happens to Ramsey is not only the host but the top manager at his company that syndicates him.
"I agree with getting Savage from KRC. It would be a better show to follow Furman. Also running Dave Ramsey from 2 to 4pm doesn't make sense as his show attracts an audience that will not stay tuned to sports talk."
You do have a point. Although, Dr. Laura, who is among the top shows with women 25-54 in LA, wouldn't make the best lead in for two guys screaming about illegal immigration. But it does increase cume and sources of revenue. I'd personally prefer the third hour of Beck on delay, Ramsey prefed from 1-2, and then live from 2-4. Cutting O'Reilly out of the equation would lead to midday TSL among younger and female listeners and not cause turn-out that might not come back.
"If I was programming the station, I pick up Tom Leykis and run him 10-1am. As for 2-4pm, Why not sign Tim Big Dog Lewis who is back in town."
Leykis is a talent, of which is seemingly a crime to say these days, but doesn't belong here. FM talk should reach out to non-traditional talk audiences (which Leykis does, at the expense of alienating others) which at least Cumulus realized with a couple of the shows.
"I'm not big on Rusty Humphries but you could plug it in overnights which would be better than SNR."
Rusty isn't there because he's a talent. He's there because the Dickeys are cheap and TRN gives them a discount off the hundreds of thousands they charge for Mancow by clearing him (which again, they need as top 50 market clears for, and this was their only chance in Cincy, if not all of OH). That being said, SNR is weak, unless you consider that there is a part of the market that basically has no sports station thanks to the preach-n-teach block starting at midnight (1am now?) on CKY.
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KJCB said:"No way...KRC just gave all 3 hours of Savage live! Which is what he probably wanted. It's not going to matter since the Furman thing will only last a year until the owners realize they overpaid for no ratings and go back to syndication to save that money."
Umm, 7-10pm is two hours live, and it's on FM, and the station is clearing two other shows that no one else in the market wants. Be good to those who help you out - KRC does nothing for TRN because Ingraham and Savage would be cleared elsewhere if they dropped them. Not so for 96.5's shows. I've never heard a caller from 'KRC on Savage, ever. Hannity gets a number of them, and I rarely listen to him. Live is important, especially to TRN, but it's really not that big of a deal when you're on 370 stations and take relatively few calls anyway. (BTW, Savage has been on from 6-9pm ET for more than two years, now, and 55 just moved him up to live because Jim Cramer no longer does a show. Their hand was forced)
Yes it was forced...BY CRAMER. Cramer's syndicators didn't want stations to drop him after he announced his radio show was done. KRC Finally put Savage on live after Cramer was gone. Also, from what I heard, 96.5 wanted Mark Levin.....
ilovescotch said:Yes it was forced...BY CRAMER.
Yeah, that's what I said.
ilovescotch said:Cramer's syndicators didn't want stations to drop him after he announced his radio show was done.
You mean affiliates?
ilovescotch said:KRC Finally put Savage on live after Cramer was gone. Also, from what I heard, 96.5 wanted Mark Levin.....
Nobody wants Mark Levin...
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