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Special Announcement at AAR Phoenix party tonight
- Thread starter RBA
- Start date
K
KeithE
Guest
> What could it be?
>
> http://www.1010kxxt.com/
Sounds like they found a new home. Any guesses? Mine is KPHX.
They have a new URL http://airamericaphoenix.com which currently points to KXXT's website but I'm sure that'll change to their new station (however, KPHX doesn't currently have a website). Found it by clicking on their party announcement.
>
> http://www.1010kxxt.com/
Sounds like they found a new home. Any guesses? Mine is KPHX.
They have a new URL http://airamericaphoenix.com which currently points to KXXT's website but I'm sure that'll change to their new station (however, KPHX doesn't currently have a website). Found it by clicking on their party announcement.
> > What could it be?
> >
> > http://www.1010kxxt.com/
>
> Sounds like they found a new home. Any guesses? Mine is
> KPHX.
>
> They have a new URL http://airamericaphoenix.com which
> currently points to KXXT's website but I'm sure that'll
> change to their new station (however, KPHX doesn't currently
> have a website). Found it by clicking on their party
> announcement.
>
It's either that or it could mean that they will just use web streaming with their local host, promos, advertising, etc until they find a station.
> >
> > http://www.1010kxxt.com/
>
> Sounds like they found a new home. Any guesses? Mine is
> KPHX.
>
> They have a new URL http://airamericaphoenix.com which
> currently points to KXXT's website but I'm sure that'll
> change to their new station (however, KPHX doesn't currently
> have a website). Found it by clicking on their party
> announcement.
>
It's either that or it could mean that they will just use web streaming with their local host, promos, advertising, etc until they find a station.
Off air...
> > > What could it be?
> > >
> > > http://www.1010kxxt.com/
> >
> > Sounds like they found a new home. Any guesses? Mine is
> > KPHX.
> >
> > They have a new URL http://airamericaphoenix.com which
> > currently points to KXXT's website but I'm sure that'll
> > change to their new station (however, KPHX doesn't
> currently
> > have a website). Found it by clicking on their party
> > announcement.
> >
>
> It's either that or it could mean that they will just use
> web streaming with their local host, promos, advertising,
> etc until they find a station.
Ed Schultz has just announced AAR is completely off the air as of March 1.
> > > What could it be?
> > >
> > > http://www.1010kxxt.com/
> >
> > Sounds like they found a new home. Any guesses? Mine is
> > KPHX.
> >
> > They have a new URL http://airamericaphoenix.com which
> > currently points to KXXT's website but I'm sure that'll
> > change to their new station (however, KPHX doesn't
> currently
> > have a website). Found it by clicking on their party
> > announcement.
> >
>
> It's either that or it could mean that they will just use
> web streaming with their local host, promos, advertising,
> etc until they find a station.
Ed Schultz has just announced AAR is completely off the air as of March 1.
Re: Off air...
> > > > What could it be?
> > > >
> > > > http://www.1010kxxt.com/
> > >
> > > Sounds like they found a new home. Any guesses? Mine
> is
> > > KPHX.
> > >
> > > They have a new URL http://airamericaphoenix.com which
> > > currently points to KXXT's website but I'm sure that'll
> > > change to their new station (however, KPHX doesn't
> > currently
> > > have a website). Found it by clicking on their party
> > > announcement.
> > >
> >
> > It's either that or it could mean that they will just use
> > web streaming with their local host, promos, advertising,
> > etc until they find a station.
>
> Ed Schultz has just announced AAR is completely off the air
> as of March 1.
>
That could be the cse, but I don't think that would be their "Special Announcement" It's probably they are off air in Phoenix, still looking for a new home, and in the mean time we will be streaming on the internet as www.airamericaphoenix.com.
> > > > What could it be?
> > > >
> > > > http://www.1010kxxt.com/
> > >
> > > Sounds like they found a new home. Any guesses? Mine
> is
> > > KPHX.
> > >
> > > They have a new URL http://airamericaphoenix.com which
> > > currently points to KXXT's website but I'm sure that'll
> > > change to their new station (however, KPHX doesn't
> > currently
> > > have a website). Found it by clicking on their party
> > > announcement.
> > >
> >
> > It's either that or it could mean that they will just use
> > web streaming with their local host, promos, advertising,
> > etc until they find a station.
>
> Ed Schultz has just announced AAR is completely off the air
> as of March 1.
>
That could be the cse, but I don't think that would be their "Special Announcement" It's probably they are off air in Phoenix, still looking for a new home, and in the mean time we will be streaming on the internet as www.airamericaphoenix.com.
> What could it be?
>
> http://www.1010kxxt.com/
>
The message from Bob Christy as you scroll down says it all.
>
> http://www.1010kxxt.com/
>
The message from Bob Christy as you scroll down says it all.
> You helped take an unrated, unprofitable AM radio station and pushed it to a > tie for 3rd place out of 25 AM stations in Phoenix.
Only 20 in Maricopa County, but OK...
> station and made it profitable in less than a year and even after the sale > was announced you stood by Air America Phoenix and we kept on making money even > when our future was in doubt and we didn’t know when our “plug” was going to > be pulled.
Kind of like people who listened to Stern's final shows.
> Air America Phoenix has now disappeared into the ether and Phoenix is left
> with multiple Christian formats, some in English and others in Spanish,
> several “brokered’ time stations (you know the radio stations selling you
> vitamins, good bowel movements and financial advice)
Read: stations that make more money. I'm all for libtalk and enjoy some of the shows, but these people have never realized no one has a right to be on the air. Limited spectrum means the formats with the most profits win.
> three “Sports Talk” stations that live off the largess of their sister
> stations in the big corporate clusters that dominate the dial in Phoenix
Two if not all 3 make more than 1010.
> Is anyone enjoying Tony Snow on KTAR…did anyone ask for him?
Not sure what that means.
> And there are 3 “nostalgia” stations on AM and another on the FM dial. (The ?> inside radio joke on nostalgia is that listeners are “dying” for it!)
Didn't you come from WJNA, Bob?
> CBS’ new “Free” FM is another station loaded with sophomoric chatter, but
> without the interruption of overplayed songs! Free FM is a continuous loop of > bad FM morning show humor 24 hours a day!
Yes, so bad that in LA, the FreeFM west coast flagship outperforms libtalk by vast proportions and bills tens of millions more.
> clusters and the one and two station owners. Will they innovate? Take a
> chance like we did with KXXT? Probably not, they never have and they never
> will
Ummm... I guess the 20-some libtalkers CC has (including former rightwing talkers) don't count. They just stopped doing it.
> Over the past 4 months I have tried to raise the money to buy a new station
> for Air America Phoenix. We made offers on 2 stations; one didn’t have an
> adequate signal to insure success and the other was laughably over priced.
Maybe if you realized that every station in the year 2006 brokers some time, you'd make more money. Seems to me local liberals would settle for a 2-watt station; what is this about a station "not being big enough"... beggars can't be choosers. Besides, KSUN bills less than the median price of a new home in the Valley. You couldn't LMA something?
Nothing against the hardworking staff at 1010 and good luck to all, but seems to me the leadership there is lacking.
Only 20 in Maricopa County, but OK...
> station and made it profitable in less than a year and even after the sale > was announced you stood by Air America Phoenix and we kept on making money even > when our future was in doubt and we didn’t know when our “plug” was going to > be pulled.
Kind of like people who listened to Stern's final shows.
> Air America Phoenix has now disappeared into the ether and Phoenix is left
> with multiple Christian formats, some in English and others in Spanish,
> several “brokered’ time stations (you know the radio stations selling you
> vitamins, good bowel movements and financial advice)
Read: stations that make more money. I'm all for libtalk and enjoy some of the shows, but these people have never realized no one has a right to be on the air. Limited spectrum means the formats with the most profits win.
> three “Sports Talk” stations that live off the largess of their sister
> stations in the big corporate clusters that dominate the dial in Phoenix
Two if not all 3 make more than 1010.
> Is anyone enjoying Tony Snow on KTAR…did anyone ask for him?
Not sure what that means.
> And there are 3 “nostalgia” stations on AM and another on the FM dial. (The ?> inside radio joke on nostalgia is that listeners are “dying” for it!)
Didn't you come from WJNA, Bob?
> CBS’ new “Free” FM is another station loaded with sophomoric chatter, but
> without the interruption of overplayed songs! Free FM is a continuous loop of > bad FM morning show humor 24 hours a day!
Yes, so bad that in LA, the FreeFM west coast flagship outperforms libtalk by vast proportions and bills tens of millions more.
> clusters and the one and two station owners. Will they innovate? Take a
> chance like we did with KXXT? Probably not, they never have and they never
> will
Ummm... I guess the 20-some libtalkers CC has (including former rightwing talkers) don't count. They just stopped doing it.
> Over the past 4 months I have tried to raise the money to buy a new station
> for Air America Phoenix. We made offers on 2 stations; one didn’t have an
> adequate signal to insure success and the other was laughably over priced.
Maybe if you realized that every station in the year 2006 brokers some time, you'd make more money. Seems to me local liberals would settle for a 2-watt station; what is this about a station "not being big enough"... beggars can't be choosers. Besides, KSUN bills less than the median price of a new home in the Valley. You couldn't LMA something?
Nothing against the hardworking staff at 1010 and good luck to all, but seems to me the leadership there is lacking.
K
KeithE
Guest
> The message from Bob Christy as you scroll down says it all.
Interesting, if bizarre, comments from somebody that tried hard but is obviously bitter.
<font color=red>...three “Sports Talk” stations that live off the largess of their sister stations in the big corporate clusters that dominate the dial in Phoenix.</font>
IIRC, XTRA makes its money from its own ad sales. Not sure about KDUS or KMVP, but I doubt either one could sustain themselves on their own.
<font color=red>Is anyone enjoying Tony Snow on KTAR…did anyone ask for him?</font>
Obviously Bonneville management asked for him, at least temporarily. And probably a few folks are enjoying it, but live and local would be better.
<font color=red>And there are 3 “nostalgia” stations on AM and another on the FM dial. (The inside radio joke on nostalgia is that listeners are “dying” for it!)</font>
On AM, there's KOY. Who are the other 2? KSAZ in Marana doesn't count since it's in the Tucson market. KMYL and KUET are long gone. Or is he counting KAZG as "nostalgia?"
<font color=red>Over the past 4 months I have tried to raise the money to buy a new station for Air America Phoenix. We made offers on 2 stations; one didn’t have an adequate signal to insure success and the other was laughably over priced.</font>
The first being KPHX and the second being KDUS? Maybe they should try Gumpdusky again since Sporting News Radio's future is iffy (the whole company's for sale).
<font color=red>When I finally put together the right banker and the right investors, we were out of time! I’m mad at myself for wasting time with the charlatans, the BS artists and the dreamers.</font>
So why did you then? It should be easy enough to figure out the legitimate operators from the bulls#!t artists. Sounds like bad business decision-making to me.
But with that description of some of the folks he was talking to, maybe he was trying to buy KFNX or KXAM. :-D
My bet is that if there is a demand for liberal talk in the valley, someone will pick it up. It may not be the current Air America Phoenix management, or the Air America Radio network, but if there is a real demand and money can be made, it will be filled.
Interesting, if bizarre, comments from somebody that tried hard but is obviously bitter.
<font color=red>...three “Sports Talk” stations that live off the largess of their sister stations in the big corporate clusters that dominate the dial in Phoenix.</font>
IIRC, XTRA makes its money from its own ad sales. Not sure about KDUS or KMVP, but I doubt either one could sustain themselves on their own.
<font color=red>Is anyone enjoying Tony Snow on KTAR…did anyone ask for him?</font>
Obviously Bonneville management asked for him, at least temporarily. And probably a few folks are enjoying it, but live and local would be better.
<font color=red>And there are 3 “nostalgia” stations on AM and another on the FM dial. (The inside radio joke on nostalgia is that listeners are “dying” for it!)</font>
On AM, there's KOY. Who are the other 2? KSAZ in Marana doesn't count since it's in the Tucson market. KMYL and KUET are long gone. Or is he counting KAZG as "nostalgia?"
<font color=red>Over the past 4 months I have tried to raise the money to buy a new station for Air America Phoenix. We made offers on 2 stations; one didn’t have an adequate signal to insure success and the other was laughably over priced.</font>
The first being KPHX and the second being KDUS? Maybe they should try Gumpdusky again since Sporting News Radio's future is iffy (the whole company's for sale).
<font color=red>When I finally put together the right banker and the right investors, we were out of time! I’m mad at myself for wasting time with the charlatans, the BS artists and the dreamers.</font>
So why did you then? It should be easy enough to figure out the legitimate operators from the bulls#!t artists. Sounds like bad business decision-making to me.
But with that description of some of the folks he was talking to, maybe he was trying to buy KFNX or KXAM. :-D
My bet is that if there is a demand for liberal talk in the valley, someone will pick it up. It may not be the current Air America Phoenix management, or the Air America Radio network, but if there is a real demand and money can be made, it will be filled.
> And there are 3 “nostalgia” stations on AM and another on
> the FM dial. (The inside radio joke on nostalgia is that
> listeners are “dying” for it!)
> On AM, there's KOY. Who are the other 2? KSAZ in Marana
> doesn't count since it's in the Tucson market. KMYL and
> KUET are long gone. Or is he counting KAZG as "nostalgia?"
If you drive around in circles in a certain parking lot in Glendale, you can get KBSZ by straining you ear just right.
> Over the past 4 months I have tried to raise the money to
> buy a new station for Air America Phoenix. We made offers on
> 2 stations; one didn’t have an adequate signal to insure
> success and the other was laughably over priced.
> The first being KPHX and the second being KDUS? Maybe they
> should try Gumpdusky again since Sporting News Radio's
> future is iffy (the whole company's for sale).
1190 having set a paradigm for stick value, what do you expect?
> When I finally put together the right banker and the right
> investors, we were out of time! I’m mad at myself for
> wasting time with the charlatans, the BS artists and the
Why not bring the format back in a few months then? People would be starved and more eager to listen!
> My bet is that if there is a demand for liberal talk in the
> valley, someone will pick it up. It may not be the current
> Air America Phoenix management, or the Air America Radio
> network, but if there is a real demand and money can be
> made, it will be filled.
Nothing against Bob; he's a nice guy (albeit a bit long winded), but why would any station want him to run what could and probably should be a turnkey format? Stephanie Miller mornings and the same programming off the sat the rest of the day. Find a nice broom closet in the new CC digs and you've got a station. Not that I expect that to happen, at least until or when the 10 station limit passes.
Write it down; we'll be clinking champaign glasses to ring in 2007 listening to Air America on bad computer speakers.
> the FM dial. (The inside radio joke on nostalgia is that
> listeners are “dying” for it!)
> On AM, there's KOY. Who are the other 2? KSAZ in Marana
> doesn't count since it's in the Tucson market. KMYL and
> KUET are long gone. Or is he counting KAZG as "nostalgia?"
If you drive around in circles in a certain parking lot in Glendale, you can get KBSZ by straining you ear just right.
> Over the past 4 months I have tried to raise the money to
> buy a new station for Air America Phoenix. We made offers on
> 2 stations; one didn’t have an adequate signal to insure
> success and the other was laughably over priced.
> The first being KPHX and the second being KDUS? Maybe they
> should try Gumpdusky again since Sporting News Radio's
> future is iffy (the whole company's for sale).
1190 having set a paradigm for stick value, what do you expect?
> When I finally put together the right banker and the right
> investors, we were out of time! I’m mad at myself for
> wasting time with the charlatans, the BS artists and the
Why not bring the format back in a few months then? People would be starved and more eager to listen!
> My bet is that if there is a demand for liberal talk in the
> valley, someone will pick it up. It may not be the current
> Air America Phoenix management, or the Air America Radio
> network, but if there is a real demand and money can be
> made, it will be filled.
Nothing against Bob; he's a nice guy (albeit a bit long winded), but why would any station want him to run what could and probably should be a turnkey format? Stephanie Miller mornings and the same programming off the sat the rest of the day. Find a nice broom closet in the new CC digs and you've got a station. Not that I expect that to happen, at least until or when the 10 station limit passes.
Write it down; we'll be clinking champaign glasses to ring in 2007 listening to Air America on bad computer speakers.
Doubt it — there's a big demand for any talk radio not dripping of brain dead neo-con sycophants or wall to wall infomerical hell. I don't find his comments "bizarre", but on the mark.
While I didn't enjoy much of the AA syndicated programming, Newcomb & Goyette's programs were the best in the Valley (along with some of the weekend programming) and Franken show, when live, was alright at times.
I'm quite convinced that "money interests" are more interested in buy/sell value than actually making money off a functioning station. How KXXT catapaulted from obscurity to money maker in a short period is a vivid illustration of how there is an unserved market that will go unserved again (as it was before AA came to Phoenix in 2004). Lots of folks will now tune out or set their dial to the corpo-federali NPR speak to get their talk radio fix.
> My bet is that if there is a demand for liberal talk in the
> valley, someone will pick it up. It may not be the current
> Air America Phoenix management, or the Air America Radio
> network, but if there is a real demand and money can be
> made, it will be filled.
>
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While I didn't enjoy much of the AA syndicated programming, Newcomb & Goyette's programs were the best in the Valley (along with some of the weekend programming) and Franken show, when live, was alright at times.
I'm quite convinced that "money interests" are more interested in buy/sell value than actually making money off a functioning station. How KXXT catapaulted from obscurity to money maker in a short period is a vivid illustration of how there is an unserved market that will go unserved again (as it was before AA came to Phoenix in 2004). Lots of folks will now tune out or set their dial to the corpo-federali NPR speak to get their talk radio fix.
> My bet is that if there is a demand for liberal talk in the
> valley, someone will pick it up. It may not be the current
> Air America Phoenix management, or the Air America Radio
> network, but if there is a real demand and money can be
> made, it will be filled.
>
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> And there are 3 “nostalgia” stations on AM and another on
> the FM dial. (The inside radio joke on nostalgia is that
> listeners are “dying” for it!)
> On AM, there's KOY. Who are the other 2? KSAZ in Marana
> doesn't count since it's in the Tucson market. KMYL and
> KUET are long gone. Or is he counting KAZG as "nostalgia?"
Christy's probably talking about the current Music of your Life format on KPHX, which may just be temporary.
> My bet is that if there is a demand for liberal talk in the
> valley, someone will pick it up. It may not be the current
> Air America Phoenix management, or the Air America Radio
> network, but if there is a real demand and money can be
> made, it will be filled.
My words exactly. And even if it's on a marginal signal such as 1400 or 1480 (hey, even 1010's nighttime signal wasn't the best), if the listeners are loyal enough, they'll listen through the static or through the station's Internet stream.
> the FM dial. (The inside radio joke on nostalgia is that
> listeners are “dying” for it!)
> On AM, there's KOY. Who are the other 2? KSAZ in Marana
> doesn't count since it's in the Tucson market. KMYL and
> KUET are long gone. Or is he counting KAZG as "nostalgia?"
Christy's probably talking about the current Music of your Life format on KPHX, which may just be temporary.
> My bet is that if there is a demand for liberal talk in the
> valley, someone will pick it up. It may not be the current
> Air America Phoenix management, or the Air America Radio
> network, but if there is a real demand and money can be
> made, it will be filled.
My words exactly. And even if it's on a marginal signal such as 1400 or 1480 (hey, even 1010's nighttime signal wasn't the best), if the listeners are loyal enough, they'll listen through the static or through the station's Internet stream.
> Yes, so bad that in LA, the FreeFM west coast flagship
> outperforms libtalk by vast proportions and bills tens of
> millions more.
Maybe not anymore...did you see the first trend for Adam Carolla? Yipes.
Now, it's just one trend in his very first rated month...granted. But the equation may very well change for the "Free FM" talkers with the departure of Stern, and the possible massive erosion of his audience. (Phoenix doesn't really count, since they started doing all talk after Stern's exit.)
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> outperforms libtalk by vast proportions and bills tens of
> millions more.
Maybe not anymore...did you see the first trend for Adam Carolla? Yipes.
Now, it's just one trend in his very first rated month...granted. But the equation may very well change for the "Free FM" talkers with the departure of Stern, and the possible massive erosion of his audience. (Phoenix doesn't really count, since they started doing all talk after Stern's exit.)
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Re: Off air...
> That could be the cse, but I don't think that would be their
> "Special Announcement" It's probably they are off air in
> Phoenix, still looking for a new home, and in the mean time
> we will be streaming on the internet as
> www.airamericaphoenix.com.
Which basically means nothing, without a stick behind it...and all of the station's prime-time shows save for Dr. Newcomb are already stream-able from many other places.
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> That could be the cse, but I don't think that would be their
> "Special Announcement" It's probably they are off air in
> Phoenix, still looking for a new home, and in the mean time
> we will be streaming on the internet as
> www.airamericaphoenix.com.
Which basically means nothing, without a stick behind it...and all of the station's prime-time shows save for Dr. Newcomb are already stream-able from many other places.
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Re: Off air...
> > That could be the cse, but I don't think that would be
> their
> > "Special Announcement" It's probably they are off air in
>
> > Phoenix, still looking for a new home, and in the mean
> time
> > we will be streaming on the internet as
> > www.airamericaphoenix.com.
>
> Which basically means nothing, without a stick behind
> it...and all of the station's prime-time shows save for Dr.
> Newcomb are already stream-able from many other places.
Who could still do a show for his affiliate KRXA/Monterey if he so desired. They stream him now from 1-3am PT.
Goyette is the one with no other place to hear, unless one or both land back on KFNX.
> > That could be the cse, but I don't think that would be
> their
> > "Special Announcement" It's probably they are off air in
>
> > Phoenix, still looking for a new home, and in the mean
> time
> > we will be streaming on the internet as
> > www.airamericaphoenix.com.
>
> Which basically means nothing, without a stick behind
> it...and all of the station's prime-time shows save for Dr.
> Newcomb are already stream-able from many other places.
Who could still do a show for his affiliate KRXA/Monterey if he so desired. They stream him now from 1-3am PT.
Goyette is the one with no other place to hear, unless one or both land back on KFNX.
> ...three “Sports Talk” stations that live off the largess of
> their sister stations in the big corporate clusters that
> dominate the dial in Phoenix.
> IIRC, XTRA makes its money from its own ad sales. Not sure
> about KDUS or KMVP, but I doubt either one could sustain
> themselves on their own.
KMVP is operating happily in the black......thanks to a mix of being the Flagship for ASU, Cardinals, Rattlers and Mercury, brokered shows and an overall more consistant network presence that the pretenders down the dial. (ESPN Radio, 11 years and going strong)
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> their sister stations in the big corporate clusters that
> dominate the dial in Phoenix.
> IIRC, XTRA makes its money from its own ad sales. Not sure
> about KDUS or KMVP, but I doubt either one could sustain
> themselves on their own.
KMVP is operating happily in the black......thanks to a mix of being the Flagship for ASU, Cardinals, Rattlers and Mercury, brokered shows and an overall more consistant network presence that the pretenders down the dial. (ESPN Radio, 11 years and going strong)
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azenergyfan
Guest
> > Yes, so bad that in LA, the FreeFM west coast flagship
> > outperforms libtalk by vast proportions and bills tens of
> > millions more.
>
> Maybe not anymore...did you see the first trend for Adam
> Carolla? Yipes.
>
> Now, it's just one trend in his very first rated
> month...granted. But the equation may very well change for
> the "Free FM" talkers with the departure of Stern, and the
> possible massive erosion of his audience. (Phoenix doesn't
> really count, since they started doing all talk after
> Stern's exit.)
>
> -OA
>
I also think it is unfair to compare Stern numbers to Carolla's or any other hosts numbers. These shows need time to build their audience not just take the Stern audience. I think if they cave in a few books after Stern leaaves, that would be a bad business decision.
> > outperforms libtalk by vast proportions and bills tens of
> > millions more.
>
> Maybe not anymore...did you see the first trend for Adam
> Carolla? Yipes.
>
> Now, it's just one trend in his very first rated
> month...granted. But the equation may very well change for
> the "Free FM" talkers with the departure of Stern, and the
> possible massive erosion of his audience. (Phoenix doesn't
> really count, since they started doing all talk after
> Stern's exit.)
>
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I also think it is unfair to compare Stern numbers to Carolla's or any other hosts numbers. These shows need time to build their audience not just take the Stern audience. I think if they cave in a few books after Stern leaaves, that would be a bad business decision.
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> > And there are 3 “nostalgia” stations on AM and another on
> > the FM dial. (The inside radio joke on nostalgia is that
> > listeners are “dying” for it!)
> > On AM, there's KOY. Who are the other 2? KSAZ in Marana
> > doesn't count since it's in the Tucson market. KMYL and
> > KUET are long gone. Or is he counting KAZG as
> "nostalgia?"
>
> Christy's probably talking about the current Music of your
> Life format on KPHX, which may just be temporary.
Forgot that KPHX was running Adult Standards now. Easy to do.
> > My bet is that if there is a demand for liberal talk in the
> > valley, someone will pick it up. It may not be the current
> > Air America Phoenix management, or the Air America Radio
> > network, but if there is a real demand and money can be
> > made, it will be filled.
>
> My words exactly. And even if it's on a marginal signal such
> as 1400 or 1480 (hey, even 1010's nighttime signal wasn't
> the best), if the listeners are loyal enough, they'll listen
> through the static or through the station's Internet stream.
KSUN would be a good choice since their signal covers the Tempe-ASU-Scottsdale area well. That's the area lib-talk should be targeting. But would they want to switch to any English-language format?
> > the FM dial. (The inside radio joke on nostalgia is that
> > listeners are “dying” for it!)
> > On AM, there's KOY. Who are the other 2? KSAZ in Marana
> > doesn't count since it's in the Tucson market. KMYL and
> > KUET are long gone. Or is he counting KAZG as
> "nostalgia?"
>
> Christy's probably talking about the current Music of your
> Life format on KPHX, which may just be temporary.
Forgot that KPHX was running Adult Standards now. Easy to do.
> > My bet is that if there is a demand for liberal talk in the
> > valley, someone will pick it up. It may not be the current
> > Air America Phoenix management, or the Air America Radio
> > network, but if there is a real demand and money can be
> > made, it will be filled.
>
> My words exactly. And even if it's on a marginal signal such
> as 1400 or 1480 (hey, even 1010's nighttime signal wasn't
> the best), if the listeners are loyal enough, they'll listen
> through the static or through the station's Internet stream.
KSUN would be a good choice since their signal covers the Tempe-ASU-Scottsdale area well. That's the area lib-talk should be targeting. But would they want to switch to any English-language format?
> I also think it is unfair to compare Stern numbers to
> Carolla's or any other hosts numbers. These shows need time
> to build their audience not just take the Stern audience. I
> think if they cave in a few books after Stern leaaves, that
> would be a bad business decision.
It'd be way premature, despite the fact that some of the first post-Stern numbers are looking like they should belong to travelers' information stations. (OK, so it's not that bad, but...)
CBS has been quoted as saying they're looking at roughly a 1-2 year time frame to figure out what's happening with these shows...in essence, a "tryout" to shake things out.
I find it hard to believe that Carolla will stay at these anemic levels in Los Angeles, though I do wonder if his style isn't really a good fit for AM drive. But even if he does "well", it may not be anywhere near the #1 numbers that Stern had on KLSX.
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> Carolla's or any other hosts numbers. These shows need time
> to build their audience not just take the Stern audience. I
> think if they cave in a few books after Stern leaaves, that
> would be a bad business decision.
It'd be way premature, despite the fact that some of the first post-Stern numbers are looking like they should belong to travelers' information stations. (OK, so it's not that bad, but...)
CBS has been quoted as saying they're looking at roughly a 1-2 year time frame to figure out what's happening with these shows...in essence, a "tryout" to shake things out.
I find it hard to believe that Carolla will stay at these anemic levels in Los Angeles, though I do wonder if his style isn't really a good fit for AM drive. But even if he does "well", it may not be anywhere near the #1 numbers that Stern had on KLSX.
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> KSUN would be a good choice since their signal covers the
> Tempe-ASU-Scottsdale area well. That's the area lib-talk
> should be targeting. But would they want to switch to any
> English-language format?
Because they don't make any money.
> Tempe-ASU-Scottsdale area well. That's the area lib-talk
> should be targeting. But would they want to switch to any
> English-language format?
Because they don't make any money.
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> KSUN would be a good choice since their signal covers the
> Tempe-ASU-Scottsdale area well. That's the area lib-talk
> should be targeting. But would they want to switch to any
> English-language format?
The Marques brothers (who own KSUN) may sell if someone offers them a good deal. I have doubts the station's making any money (or just breaking even) at this point (David Eduardo, do you have any more info on KSUN?). Their license renewal from last May hasn't even been approved by the FCC yet, which may mean trouble for them.
> KSUN would be a good choice since their signal covers the
> Tempe-ASU-Scottsdale area well. That's the area lib-talk
> should be targeting. But would they want to switch to any
> English-language format?
The Marques brothers (who own KSUN) may sell if someone offers them a good deal. I have doubts the station's making any money (or just breaking even) at this point (David Eduardo, do you have any more info on KSUN?). Their license renewal from last May hasn't even been approved by the FCC yet, which may mean trouble for them.
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