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Speculation: Who's going to take CBS-FM's place?

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westlife

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Okay, post your speculation here: what station, if any, do you think is going to flip to Oldies, in order to take the place of CBS-FM?

Here's the candidates that come to my mind:

570 WMCA: Salem could create a real stir if they recaptured WMCA's "Good Guys" heritage by flipping it to an Oldies format, playing the same kind of music WMCA did when it was a Top 40 station in the '60s. Plus, WMCA's signal is pretty decent, both in NYC and throughout the surrounding areas. (C'mon, Salem... isn't it greedy for you to have _two_ Christian Talk stations in NYC? Put all the religious stuff on WWDJ, and bring back the Good Guys on WMCA!)

710 WOR: They could have a commanding presence as a 50,000-watt Oldies station, but WOR is very conservative in their programming and I doubt they'd dump their decades-old Talk format. Plus, Oldies music would sound like total crap anyway through WOR's horrible 5 kHz audio and constant IBOC background hiss!

1050 WEPN, 1130 WBBR, 1560 WQEW: These 50 kW stations could all make a good home for an Oldies format, but they're all firmly locked into their current "corporate" formats so I doubt they'd be eager to flip to Oldies.

1190 WLIB: Would they drop Air America like a hot potato to go Oldies? All I can say is "maybe". And the less-than-steller signal coverage would be a problem, just as it is with their current format.

770 WABC: I'm sure quite a few people would be jumping for joy if WABC recreated their Musicradio heritage (just like they did on Monday), but they're also NYC's highest-rated AM station, and for every person who would be delighted to have Oldies on 770 AM, there would be 2 or 3 people who would be pissed off at the loss of Rush and Sean.

And finally:

880 WCBS: Could CBS slickly move their Oldies format from FM to AM? In that case, they'd actually gain a better signal, but WCBS's Newsradio heritage is even longer than CBS-FM's Oldies heritage was, and they have a contractural obligation to carry the Yankees games. So just like WLIB, I give this one a "maybe".

As for the FM dial, I don't think we'll see an Oldies format on FM again in NYC, unless "Jack" is just a stunt for his real home on 102.7 WNEW, and CBS-FM brings back the Oldies. Oldies could work very well on either 94.7 WFME or 99.5 WBAI, but I doubt Family Radio or Pacifica would be seriously interested in selling their valuable NYC affiliates.

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You're welcome to speculate... Do realize that for any music format (Radio Disney aside) to exist on the AM band in New York City is a longer-than-longshot.

I'd concentrate on FM stations, but that's just me...

> As for the FM dial, I don't think we'll see an Oldies format
> on FM again in NYC, unless "Jack" is just a stunt for his
> real home on 102.7 WNEW, and CBS-FM brings back the Oldies.
> Oldies could work very well on either 94.7 WFME or 99.5
> WBAI, but I doubt Family Radio or Pacifica would be
> seriously interested in selling their valuable NYC
> affiliates.

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>
> 880 WCBS: Could CBS slickly move their Oldies format from FM
> to AM? In that case, they'd actually gain a better signal,
> but WCBS's Newsradio heritage is even longer than CBS-FM's
> Oldies heritage was, and they have a contractural obligation
> to carry the Yankees games. So just like WLIB, I give this
> one a "maybe".


If that was going to happen, it would have been simultaniously with 101.1.
 
> No comment...

The thought of Family Radio selling their NYC-area affiliate and it flipping to Oldies is exactly the reverse of what happened in San Francisco recently: heritage station 610 KFRC was sold to Family Radio, which dumped its Oldies format in favor of their all-too-exciting lineup of religious programming.

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> You're welcome to speculate... Do realize that for any music
> format (Radio Disney aside) to exist on the AM band in New
> York City is a longer-than-longshot.
>
> I'd concentrate on FM stations, but that's just me...
>
> > As for the FM dial, I don't think we'll see an Oldies
> format
> > on FM again in NYC, unless "Jack" is just a stunt for his
> > real home on 102.7 WNEW, and CBS-FM brings back the
> Oldies.
> > Oldies could work very well on either 94.7 WFME or 99.5
> > WBAI, but I doubt Family Radio or Pacifica would be
> > seriously interested in selling their valuable NYC
> > affiliates.
>
> No comment...
>


IF Anyone would do it...I vote for WPLJ to flip. Shannon programs True Oldies for ABC, so it's a natural fit. Shannon would do it right. Hire the old WCBS talent and/or other seasoned PERSONALITIES from around the country. Make it a station better than WCBS was, which wouldn't be too hard. Make it an old skool Top 40 with contemporary content. PERSONALITY radio will always win. WPLJ (WABC-FM?) would have an instant audience. The new station could be the "savior" to the listeners.

AM I nutz? Debate.
 
Re: Speculation: Would 95.5 Pull The Trigger?

> IF Anyone would do it...I vote for WPLJ to flip. Shannon
> programs True Oldies for ABC, so it's a natural fit. Shannon
> would do it right. Hire the old WCBS talent and/or other
> seasoned PERSONALITIES from around the country. Make it a
> station better than WCBS was, which wouldn't be too hard.
> Make it an old skool Top 40 with contemporary content.
> PERSONALITY radio will always win. WPLJ (WABC-FM?) would
> have an instant audience. The new station could be the
> "savior" to the listeners.
>
> AM I nutz? Debate.

You're actually not the first person to propose this idea... The thing about WPLJ is, despite its execrable ratings, its sales are really booming. And money is basically the reason why most radio stations are in existence - WBBR hawking Bloomberg, WEPN advertising ESPN, WQEW as Radio Disney - heck, look at WOR, another example of a station that bills well but when it comes to Arbitron time, there's little to show for it.

If WPLJ were to switch to oldies, they'd be sacrificing a lucrative billing quota. As opposed to WCBS, which switched from oldies, sacrificing loyal listeners.<P ID="signature">______________


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> As for the FM dial, I don't think we'll see an Oldies format
> on FM again in NYC, unless "Jack" is just a stunt for his
> real home on 102.7 WNEW, and CBS-FM brings back the Oldies.

I had that thought too, but that's as dumb an idea as dumping the oldies in the first place. Some people were migrating away from CBS-FM before. Even if they did put the oldies back, most people would be so incredibly p'o'ed that I doubt they'd listen again anyway. At this point it's a lose-lose.

We've seen Infinity make blunders with CBS-FM recently, but none even come close to this.
 
WCBS Oldies is streamed at:

<a href="mms://winmedcdn.cbsig.net/infinity_WCBS-FM">
mms://winmedcdn.cbsig.net/infinity_WCBS-FM</a>

WJMK Chicago flipped to jack also:
<a href="mms://winmedcdn.cbsig.net/infinity_WJMK-FM">
mms://winmedcdn.cbsig.net/infinity_WJMK-FM</a>









> Okay, post your speculation here: what station, if any, do
> you think is going to flip to Oldies, in order to take the
> place of CBS-FM?
>
> Here's the candidates that come to my mind:
>
> 570 WMCA: Salem could create a real stir if they recaptured
> WMCA's "Good Guys" heritage by flipping it to an Oldies
> format, playing the same kind of music WMCA did when it was
> a Top 40 station in the '60s. Plus, WMCA's signal is pretty
> decent, both in NYC and throughout the surrounding areas.
> (C'mon, Salem... isn't it greedy for you to have _two_
> Christian Talk stations in NYC? Put all the religious stuff
> on WWDJ, and bring back the Good Guys on WMCA!)
>
> 710 WOR: They could have a commanding presence as a
> 50,000-watt Oldies station, but WOR is very conservative in
> their programming and I doubt they'd dump their decades-old
> Talk format. Plus, Oldies music would sound like total crap
> anyway through WOR's horrible 5 kHz audio and constant IBOC
> background hiss!
>
> 1050 WEPN, 1130 WBBR, 1560 WQEW: These 50 kW stations could
> all make a good home for an Oldies format, but they're all
> firmly locked into their current "corporate" formats so I
> doubt they'd be eager to flip to Oldies.
>
> 1190 WLIB: Would they drop Air America like a hot potato to
> go Oldies? All I can say is "maybe". And the
> less-than-steller signal coverage would be a problem, just
> as it is with their current format.
>
> 770 WABC: I'm sure quite a few people would be jumping for
> joy if WABC recreated their Musicradio heritage (just like
> they did on Monday), but they're also NYC's highest-rated AM
> station, and for every person who would be delighted to have
> Oldies on 770 AM, there would be 2 or 3 people who would be
> pissed off at the loss of Rush and Sean.
>
> And finally:
>
> 880 WCBS: Could CBS slickly move their Oldies format from FM
> to AM? In that case, they'd actually gain a better signal,
> but WCBS's Newsradio heritage is even longer than CBS-FM's
> Oldies heritage was, and they have a contractural obligation
> to carry the Yankees games. So just like WLIB, I give this
> one a "maybe".
>
> As for the FM dial, I don't think we'll see an Oldies format
> on FM again in NYC, unless "Jack" is just a stunt for his
> real home on 102.7 WNEW, and CBS-FM brings back the Oldies.
> Oldies could work very well on either 94.7 WFME or 99.5
> WBAI, but I doubt Family Radio or Pacifica would be
> seriously interested in selling their valuable NYC
> affiliates.
>
 
> Okay, post your speculation here: what station, if any, do
> you think is going to flip to Oldies, in order to take the
> place of CBS-FM?
>
> Here's the candidates that come to my mind:
>
> 570 WMCA: Salem could create a real stir if they recaptured
> WMCA's "Good Guys" heritage by flipping it to an Oldies
> format, playing the same kind of music WMCA did when it was
> a Top 40 station in the '60s. Plus, WMCA's signal is pretty
> decent, both in NYC and throughout the surrounding areas.
> (C'mon, Salem... isn't it greedy for you to have _two_
> Christian Talk stations in NYC? Put all the religious stuff
> on WWDJ, and bring back the Good Guys on WMCA!)
>
> 710 WOR: They could have a commanding presence as a
> 50,000-watt Oldies station, but WOR is very conservative in
> their programming and I doubt they'd dump their decades-old
> Talk format. Plus, Oldies music would sound like total crap
> anyway through WOR's horrible 5 kHz audio and constant IBOC
> background hiss!
>
> 1050 WEPN, 1130 WBBR, 1560 WQEW: These 50 kW stations could
> all make a good home for an Oldies format, but they're all
> firmly locked into their current "corporate" formats so I
> doubt they'd be eager to flip to Oldies.
>
> 1190 WLIB: Would they drop Air America like a hot potato to
> go Oldies? All I can say is "maybe". And the
> less-than-steller signal coverage would be a problem, just
> as it is with their current format.
>
> 770 WABC: I'm sure quite a few people would be jumping for
> joy if WABC recreated their Musicradio heritage (just like
> they did on Monday), but they're also NYC's highest-rated AM
> station, and for every person who would be delighted to have
> Oldies on 770 AM, there would be 2 or 3 people who would be
> pissed off at the loss of Rush and Sean.
>
> And finally:
>
> 880 WCBS: Could CBS slickly move their Oldies format from FM
> to AM? In that case, they'd actually gain a better signal,
> but WCBS's Newsradio heritage is even longer than CBS-FM's
> Oldies heritage was, and they have a contractural obligation
> to carry the Yankees games. So just like WLIB, I give this
> one a "maybe".
>
> As for the FM dial, I don't think we'll see an Oldies format
> on FM again in NYC, unless "Jack" is just a stunt for his
> real home on 102.7 WNEW, and CBS-FM brings back the Oldies.
> Oldies could work very well on either 94.7 WFME or 99.5
> WBAI, but I doubt Family Radio or Pacifica would be
> seriously interested in selling their valuable NYC
> affiliates.
>

I don't think any of these stations will flip to Oldies. I especially say no to WCBS 880. Not only do they bill well, but a WCBS-AM flip could open the possiblilty for WBBR to go all-news and take away some ex-WCBS listeners. If Infinity has some smarts left, they would keep both WINS & WCBS as news stations. The only chance of Oldies coming back is if an FM station starts losing both ratings & ad revenue.
 
Re: Speculation - ABC In NY & Chicago

While WPLJ would be a tough decision, seems like ABC could really get themselves out of a nobody wins Active Rock-Alternative battle by flipping WZZN/Chicago to Oldies as WLS-FM - and then if they did so in NY with WPLJ to WABC-FM - ABC would create a nice brand...
 
Re: Speculation: Would 95.5 Pull The Trigger?

> > IF Anyone would do it...I vote for WPLJ to flip. Shannon
> > programs True Oldies for ABC, so it's a natural fit.
> Shannon
> > would do it right. Hire the old WCBS talent and/or other
> > seasoned PERSONALITIES from around the country. Make it a
> > station better than WCBS was, which wouldn't be too hard.
> > Make it an old skool Top 40 with contemporary content.
> > PERSONALITY radio will always win. WPLJ (WABC-FM?) would
> > have an instant audience. The new station could be the
> > "savior" to the listeners.
> >
> > AM I nutz? Debate.
>
> You're actually not the first person to propose this idea...
> The thing about WPLJ is, despite its execrable ratings, its
> sales are really booming. And money is basically the reason
> why most radio stations are in existence - WBBR hawking
> Bloomberg, WEPN advertising ESPN, WQEW as Radio Disney -
> heck, look at WOR, another example of a station that bills
> well but when it comes to Arbitron time, there's little to
> show for it.
>
> If WPLJ were to switch to oldies, they'd be sacrificing a
> lucrative billing quota. As opposed to WCBS, which switched
> from oldies, sacrificing loyal listeners.

The whole add revenue is an issue, but the idea of WPLJ going oldies is an interesting idea. If WPLJ left the hot AC format, then some other station may grab Hot AC, but I doubt that, because there is Jack! Maybe this whole Jack flip, could mean changes at a few NYC radio stations. Just my speculation.
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Re: Speculation - ABC In NY & Chicago

> While WPLJ would be a tough decision, seems like ABC could
> really get themselves out of a nobody wins Active
> Rock-Alternative battle by flipping WZZN/Chicago to Oldies
> as WLS-FM - and then if they did so in NY with WPLJ to
> WABC-FM - ABC would create a nice brand...

But PLJ is heritage. If 95.5 goes oldies, they can form a reputation and heritage as oldies and PLJ FM. I doubt that would happen though. Would be interesting if some station goes oldies. How about 101.9?
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If I had 200 Million Dollars

If I won the 250 million dollar powerball I would do the following

1. Buy 94.7 FM WFME and 1600 WWRL

2. Move WFME's gospel music and "unintellectual unit" to WWRL. They would become the Family Radio Affiliate. I would agree to carry 18 hours a day of The Family radio format but would be allowed to add other features to the station as well as a local morning and afternoon show with more black gospel music. WFME has a large black audience.

3. Take 94.7 and bring back the old CBS FM Jingles, the oldies format song for song, and hire all you guys there to make it work. I would even stay off the air and leave it to the pros. I would even get Joe McCoy to be consultant or even PD (If he would take it). The station would be called "94-7 Gold" with solid gold jingles and the like

MY lineup
5:30-9 Harry Harrison
9-Noon Max Kinkle
12 Noon-3 Bill Brown
Brown Bag back at 1220
3-7 Bob Shannon
Daily 4 play at 320 Weekdays
7-11 Bobby Jay-Hall Of fame
Monday Night 80's/Top 20 Countdown of this day in an 80's year
Tuesday Night Trivia
Wednesday Night 70's
Thursday Night 60's
Friday Night 50's
11-2 Don K Reed
2-5:30 Holly Levitz
Weekends
Sat
6-9 Mike Fitzgerald
9-Noon Gary Clark
Noon-3 Dan Ingram
3-7 Dan Taylor
5-7 Top 20 Oldies Countdown (a year between 1965 and 1980)
7-Mid Sock Hop with Cousin Brucie
12 Mid-4 Jukebox Saturday Night - Marc Sommers
Sun
6-9 Gary Clark
9-noon Holly levitz
Noon-3 Mike Fitzgerald
3-7 Dan Taylor
5-7 Top 20 Oldies COuntdown (A Year between 1955 and 1964)
7-Mid Doo Wop Shop Don K Reed
12 Mid-5 Marc Somers
12-2 Lovers Only

I would play the following rotation on 94.7 Gold FM


50's - 2 to 3 an hour
60-63 - 2 to 3 an hour

Total pre 64 - 5 an hour

64-69 - 6 an hour

70's - 3 to 4 an hour

80's - 2 an hour (3 an hour between 9 AM & 4 PM)

90's - one per 2 to 3 hours

Overnights 11 PM-6 AM
Pre 64 - 5 an hour

64-69 - 6 an hour

70-79 - 4 an hour

80-89 - 1 an hour

90's - one an hour

2000's - one an hour

Current - one an hour

Note overnights would in most cases be commercial free until 5 AM. Very few ads air late at night.

3. I would also buy 99.5 FM WBAI and 91.1 WFMU and sell the WFMU unit to back to Pacifica moving much of WBAI's programming to 91.1 FM

4. I would take 99.5 and put a Country Music format there. It would be focused on 80's and 90's Country with a couple currents per hour and a recent hit and one hit from 2000-2003. I would also play a few 50's to 70's Crossover Country hits as well. I would bring in people the likes of randy Davis, Dan Daniel, Ray Rossi, Larry Bear, Dan Taylor, and others. I would automate on overnights and run "After Midnight" in that slot.

Eventually I would attempt to add another AM station like 1130 and put Adult Standards there.
 
Speculation: What I Think will happen/response

> 570 WMCA: Salem could create a real stir if they recaptured
> WMCA's "Good Guys" heritage by flipping it to an Oldies
> format, playing the same kind of music WMCA did when it was
> a Top 40 station in the '60s. Plus, WMCA's signal is pretty
> decent, both in NYC and throughout the surrounding areas.
> (C'mon, Salem... isn't it greedy for you to have _two_
> Christian Talk stations in NYC? Put all the religious stuff
> on WWDJ, and bring back the Good Guys on WMCA!)

A religious group like Salem WILL NEVER put oldies on any of their stations. NEVER GONNA HAPPEN. We have a better chance of getting a COuntry station.

> 710 WOR:

NOT NOW AT LEAST!!! Maybe if their talk format loses money they may reconsider. But that is a BIG IF. Also they may possibly shift part time and evolve to full service oldies...but also unlikely.


> 1050 WEPN, 1130 WBBR, 1560 WQEW: These 50 kW stations could
> all make a good home for an Oldies format, but they're all
> firmly locked into their current "corporate" formats so I
> doubt they'd be eager to flip to Oldies.

1050 and 1560 might be more possible than you think. There is a rumor that ABC is wanting to sell the radio division including WABC and WPLJ as well. If they do chances are they may sell the rights to use ESPN radio to someone else like Clear Channel. They may keep leasing Radio Disney however. But still that would depend on who would buy ABC Radio. If they sell the radio division to Infinity and they must unload a couple AM stations Clear Channel could be the taker of at least 2 of these stations. They could put oldies on either WQEW or WEPN. They would given their record with WKAP Allentown and WNNJ 1360 Newton likely focus on 1964-69 with a good ammount of 1955-63 oldies mixed in and a couple 1970-73 songs mixed in. They would probably play close to 1000 songs on the station at one time.

> 1190 WLIB: Would they drop Air America like a hot potato to
> go Oldies? All I can say is "maybe". And the
> less-than-steller signal coverage would be a problem, just
> as it is with their current format.

Could BE


> 770 WABC: I'm sure quite a few people would be jumping for
> joy if WABC recreated their Musicradio heritage (just like
> they did on Monday), but they're also NYC's highest-rated AM
> station, and for every person who would be delighted to have
> Oldies on 770 AM, there would be 2 or 3 people who would be
> pissed off at the loss of Rush and Sean.

WONT HAPPEN UNLESS ABC sells this station and then all bets are off. As long As ABC owns them NO.

> And finally:
>
> 880 WCBS: Could CBS slickly move their Oldies format from FM
> to AM? In that case, they'd actually gain a better signal,
> but WCBS's Newsradio heritage is even longer than CBS-FM's
> Oldies heritage was, and they have a contractural obligation
> to carry the Yankees games. So just like WLIB, I give this
> one a "maybe".

WCBS AM NEVER..>But 1010 WINS??? Maybe...Just maybe..still not likely but why does CBS need 2 AM News stations? They could combine assets of 1010 WINS and 88 WCBS and make one big news station on WCBS 880. They could also possible move 1010 WINS to 102.7? An all news FM would not be a bad idea.


> Oldies could work very well on either 94.7 WFME or 99.5
> WBAI, but I doubt Family Radio or Pacifica would be
> seriously interested in selling their valuable NYC
> affiliates.

Actually Family radio could sell WFME. Harold Camping is close to death at almost 90. Once he passes away Family Radio may have to sell to stay afloat. Their donation base is dropping. They just bought 61 KFRC from Infinity and is in the process of selling 106.9 KEAR their flagship station. So Selling 94.7 is not out of the question.

Pacifica though would not sell WBAI any time soon.

NOW WHAT I THINK WILL HAPPEN

Oldies stations in suburban areas will try to capitalize on the loss. The LOng Island and West Connecticut Oldies stations will just get stronger and compel people to listen from farther toward the city until the signal is lost.

Also expect 1250 WMTR Morristown to shift from strictly 1955-64 with a few post 64 american oldies thrown in to a slightly more mainstream oldies format. Yes they will continue to play lost of pre 64 songs but I exp[ect them to play about 1/3 1964-69 stuff, add more Motown, more Beach Boys, Some Beatles, some softer British invasion stuff, more pop American late 60's oldies to the mix.

I expect 1360 WNNJ Newton to maintain their base as they have maybe adding another CBS FM person to afternoon drive? and moving someone to evenings live?

Also the Oldies station 100.1 WJRZ on the Shore of new Jersey will continue to grow and push their position as the only real oldies station on teh shore on FM.

Now this leaves a hole in Bergen and Hudson Counties. What can happen there is that 1160 WVNJ could shift to Oldies. They are not selling their Big Band/Easy Listening 1930-1954 format (with afew non rock songs from 55-69)well at all. I hardly hear commercials on that station. Oldies may give them a shot at actually selling advertising. They should focus on 1955-64 but alos mix in a good amount of oldies from 1964-69 and maybe a 70's per hour. It should be 60 % pre 64 and 40 % post 64. I predict that there is a 50 % possability you will see WVNJ shift to oldies.
 
Re: Speculation - ABC In NY & Chicago

> But PLJ is heritage. If 95.5 goes oldies, they can form a
> reputation and heritage as oldies and PLJ FM. I doubt that
> would happen though. Would be interesting if some station
> goes oldies. How about 101.9?

Again, a traditional oldies format will not be returning to New York. That's the hard truth.

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Re: If I had 200 Million Dollars

Among other criticisms, I will just concentrate on this one. Dan Ingram refused a Saturday only spot from CBS-FM. He would want Saturday and Sunday.

> If I won the 250 million dollar powerball I would do the
> following
>
> 1. Buy 94.7 FM WFME and 1600 WWRL
>
> 2. Move WFME's gospel music and "unintellectual unit" to
> WWRL. They would become the Family Radio Affiliate. I would
> agree to carry 18 hours a day of The Family radio format but
> would be allowed to add other features to the station as
> well as a local morning and afternoon show with more black
> gospel music. WFME has a large black audience.
>
> 3. Take 94.7 and bring back the old CBS FM Jingles, the
> oldies format song for song, and hire all you guys there to
> make it work. I would even stay off the air and leave it to
> the pros. I would even get Joe McCoy to be consultant or
> even PD (If he would take it). The station would be called
> "94-7 Gold" with solid gold jingles and the like
>
> MY lineup
> 5:30-9 Harry Harrison
> 9-Noon Max Kinkle
> 12 Noon-3 Bill Brown
> Brown Bag back at 1220
> 3-7 Bob Shannon
> Daily 4 play at 320 Weekdays
> 7-11 Bobby Jay-Hall Of fame
> Monday Night 80's/Top 20 Countdown of this day in an 80's
> year
> Tuesday Night Trivia
> Wednesday Night 70's
> Thursday Night 60's
> Friday Night 50's
> 11-2 Don K Reed
> 2-5:30 Holly Levitz
> Weekends
> Sat
> 6-9 Mike Fitzgerald
> 9-Noon Gary Clark
> Noon-3 Dan Ingram
> 3-7 Dan Taylor
> 5-7 Top 20 Oldies Countdown (a year between 1965 and 1980)
> 7-Mid Sock Hop with Cousin Brucie
> 12 Mid-4 Jukebox Saturday Night - Marc Sommers
> Sun
> 6-9 Gary Clark
> 9-noon Holly levitz
> Noon-3 Mike Fitzgerald
> 3-7 Dan Taylor
> 5-7 Top 20 Oldies COuntdown (A Year between 1955 and 1964)
> 7-Mid Doo Wop Shop Don K Reed
> 12 Mid-5 Marc Somers
> 12-2 Lovers Only
>
> I would play the following rotation on 94.7 Gold FM
>
>
> 50's - 2 to 3 an hour
> 60-63 - 2 to 3 an hour
>
> Total pre 64 - 5 an hour
>
> 64-69 - 6 an hour
>
> 70's - 3 to 4 an hour
>
> 80's - 2 an hour (3 an hour between 9 AM & 4 PM)
>
> 90's - one per 2 to 3 hours
>
> Overnights 11 PM-6 AM
> Pre 64 - 5 an hour
>
> 64-69 - 6 an hour
>
> 70-79 - 4 an hour
>
> 80-89 - 1 an hour
>
> 90's - one an hour
>
> 2000's - one an hour
>
> Current - one an hour
>
> Note overnights would in most cases be commercial free until
> 5 AM. Very few ads air late at night.
>
> 3. I would also buy 99.5 FM WBAI and 91.1 WFMU and sell the
> WFMU unit to back to Pacifica moving much of WBAI's
> programming to 91.1 FM
>
> 4. I would take 99.5 and put a Country Music format there.
> It would be focused on 80's and 90's Country with a couple
> currents per hour and a recent hit and one hit from
> 2000-2003. I would also play a few 50's to 70's Crossover
> Country hits as well. I would bring in people the likes of
> randy Davis, Dan Daniel, Ray Rossi, Larry Bear, Dan Taylor,
> and others. I would automate on overnights and run "After
> Midnight" in that slot.
>
> Eventually I would attempt to add another AM station like
> 1130 and put Adult Standards there.
>
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Hey, how bout WMCA?

If *I* Won that lottery, plus the CA Mega Millions here....

A)I'd releive Salem of WMCA and WWDJ

B)Invest in an HD Xmitter

C)Flip 'DJ to either standards or a hydrid talk station (try to think of talk that has not been done before)

D)Flip 'MCA to oldies, hire as many WCBS-FM guys as possible, rename them the WMCA "Good Guys {'n Gals}", and re cut the old Johnny Mann Jingles (examples found here: http://musicradio.computer.net/wmca/jingles.html ).

E)Buy LOTS of Billboards.

Don
 
WABC, WPLJ, and heritage

> IF Anyone would do it...I vote for WPLJ to flip. Shannon
> programs True Oldies for ABC, so it's a natural fit.

Oldies on 95.5 could be a natural! By changing the call letters back to WABC-FM, adding a little reverb to their already heavy processing, and hiring some of the talent people from the heyday of WABC and WMCA, they could pick up all those disenfranchised WCBS-FM listeners and all those who wax nostalgic for the old WABC at 770 AM.

WPLJ would have two advantages, were it to go oldies as a reincarnated WABC-FM. It could stop being an also-ran AC in a market that is saturated with such stations and it would have a strong, interference-free signal in New Jersey. WCBS-FM was plagued with interference from co-channel WBEB in Philadelphia, short-spaced on 101.1.

Of course, they would have to get their salespeople off their butts to sell the older demographic that likes this music.
 
Re: Speculation: What I Think will happen/response

> WCBS AM NEVER..>But 1010 WINS??? Maybe...Just maybe..still
> not likely but why does CBS need 2 AM News stations? They
> could combine assets of 1010 WINS and 88 WCBS and make one
> big news station on WCBS 880. They could also possible move
> 1010 WINS to 102.7? An all news FM would not be a bad idea.

I think the reason Infinity need 2 AM news stations because one of them targets the city while the othe targets the suburbs. At least that's from what I've read from message boards in the past. They also need both AM news stations in order to keep WBBR from going all-news. I know WBBR exists to promote the "Bloomberg" brand, but I think Bloomberg would be willing to capitalize on the all-news format should either WCBS 880 or 1010 WINS go away.

> Also expect 1250 WMTR Morristown to shift from strictly
> 1955-64 with a few post 64 american oldies thrown in to a
> slightly more mainstream oldies format. Yes they will
> continue to play lost of pre 64 songs but I expect them to
> play about 1/3 1964-69 stuff, add more Motown, more Beach
> Boys, Some Beatles, some softer British invasion stuff, more
> pop American late 60's oldies to the mix.
>

That would be a good way for WMTR to capitalize on CBS-FM's loss. WMTR has the best signal among the North Jersy oldies stations. They can dig into the mid-late 60's and still sound different than WNNJ 1360.

> Now this leaves a hole in Bergen and Hudson Counties. What
> can happen there is that 1160 WVNJ could shift to Oldies.
> They are not selling their Big Band/Easy Listening 1930-1954
> format (with afew non rock songs from 55-69)well at all. I
> hardly hear commercials on that station. Oldies may give
> them a shot at actually selling advertising. They should
> focus on 1955-64 but alos mix in a good amount of oldies
> from 1964-69 and maybe a 70's per hour. It should be 60 %
> pre 64 and 40 % post 64. I predict that there is a 50 %
> possability you will see WVNJ shift to oldies.
>

I didn't even think of WVNJ 1160 as a possibility. With the Popular Standards format going away in some markets, a flip to Oldies seems more realistic now. They did try Oldies before, but that was when CBS-FM was around. Now may be a good time for them to flip. Too bad WVNJ has signal problems. I live in Clifton and I can recieve WMTR better than WVNJ. The signal is no better once you get closer to NYC when WBBR & WLIB start bleeding into its adjacent frequencies. You would need a very good radio to get WVNJ in some places. Walkmans just don't cut it when you get close to NYC.
 
Re: Hey, how bout WMCA?

> A)I'd releive Salem of WMCA and WWDJ
>
> B)Invest in an HD Xmitter
>
> C)Flip 'DJ to either standards or a hydrid talk station (try
> to think of talk that has not been done before)
>
> D)Flip 'MCA to oldies, hire as many WCBS-FM guys as
> possible, rename them the WMCA "Good Guys {'n Gals}", and re
> cut the old Johnny Mann Jingles (examples found here:
> http://musicradio.computer.net/wmca/jingles.html ).

PROBLEM... The signals are not good outside of The immeiate New York metro area. Unless its a 50,000 Watt AM station then FM is the only way to go. An FM reaches further than the 5,000 watts on 570 and 970.
 
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