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Spike TV - What the heck?
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1069_KIFR said:
Yup!
I'm ready for TNN to return. Ralph Emery and Shotgun Red. And when they broadcast the Grand Ol' Opry, it was live every week. GAC shows mostly "encore presentations". CMT has lost its collective mind. If Ralph isn't available, maybe Gary Chapman is.
Well, they do have that southern-based wrestling company TNA on their line-up so changing back to TNN might be just crazy enough to work. 
I won't mind it if they decide to change back to TNN. I didn't much care for the Spike Tv name. Question is, will it be the classic TNN or The National Network one?
I won't mind it if they decide to change back to TNN. I didn't much care for the Spike Tv name. Question is, will it be the classic TNN or The National Network one?
Well, how about a little mix of both? Get the Grand Ol' Opry and Fandango from the Nashville Network, and NASCAR from the National Network (yeah, they got NASCAR after they changed the name).
One thing I'll miss from Spike would be the James Bond marathon every Thanksgiving. But, I'm sure Viacom could find one of their other networks that they could run the marathon on. I see it fitting somewhere else, but not on TNN.
One thing I'll miss from Spike would be the James Bond marathon every Thanksgiving. But, I'm sure Viacom could find one of their other networks that they could run the marathon on. I see it fitting somewhere else, but not on TNN.
For a while Bond movies were running on both Spike and AMC with them having marathons at different non-conflicting times. I don't know if AMC still has the rights to show them as well or not.
I'm surprised by this. Especially since The CW is co-owned by CBS and Spike TV by Viacom now.
Viacom has shown itself to be a very poor steward of the various cable networks in its stable. In the end, they are all being homogenized to the extent that they're starting to run together. Spike, CMT, TVLand, Nick, etc. are all becoming the same thing. What a waste. Not to mention the DRECK that they air on VH1 and MTV.
We can hope that the collective ratings will suffer, but it seems that the average viewer is too uninformed to care and is more than happy to participate in a cultural 'race to the bottom'. God help us all.....
We can hope that the collective ratings will suffer, but it seems that the average viewer is too uninformed to care and is more than happy to participate in a cultural 'race to the bottom'. God help us all.....
FloydB said:
That's not accurate. In fact, the exact opposite is true.
TNN began showing NASCAR regularly in 1988, 12 years before they became The National Network. In fact, as The Nashville Network, TNN had a great deal of NASCAR and NHRA Drag Racing programming, especially on weekends. TNN's National Sports Calvacade featured everything from the NASCAR Busch North Series, to Dirt Racing, even dune buggies.
TNN's Raceday pioneered the concept of Sunday racing news programs, years before SpeedVision even existed. TNN staples like Raceday, Inside Winston Cup Racing, NHRA Today, and Neil Bonnett's Winners were all NASCAR and other racing fans had in the days before SPEED and other networks.
TNN also sponsored the largest annual gathering of NASCAR drivers and showcars during a NASCAR-themed weekend at the now-defunct Opryland Theme Park in Nashville.
TNN (still as The Nashville Network) was also the founding sponsor behind "NASCAR Thunder," a chain of retail stores billed as "The Official Store of NASCAR."
All of the racing programming and promotions went away as soon as TNN re-launched itself as "The National Network" in 2000.
I think the reason Viacom changed the name of TNN was to get it away from TBS and TNT as maybe people thought the "T" meant Turner maybe as thats what the first T's in TBS and TNT mean. But I have a idea for Viacom to do with Spike TV. Rename it VPN standing for Viacom Paramount Network which would air CSI, CSI NY, and UFC still but would add other programs. I was going to use UPN to rename it which would sound better but would a company take the name their once broadcast network used.
What to do with TV Land. Start a new channel called Classic TV Land with shows from 50s, 60s, 70s. Then change the name on TV Land to maybe More TV Land or TV Land 2 with shows from the 80s, 90s.
As for other Viacom channels Nick, The N, Noggin they aren't that bad they cater to the kids. Nicks much better then Cartoon Network. I won't get into the VH-1 or MTV stuff. But the digital MTV Channel called MTV Hits or Jams is good. They show a lot of music videos.
What to do with TV Land. Start a new channel called Classic TV Land with shows from 50s, 60s, 70s. Then change the name on TV Land to maybe More TV Land or TV Land 2 with shows from the 80s, 90s.
As for other Viacom channels Nick, The N, Noggin they aren't that bad they cater to the kids. Nicks much better then Cartoon Network. I won't get into the VH-1 or MTV stuff. But the digital MTV Channel called MTV Hits or Jams is good. They show a lot of music videos.
BRice16 said:
I stand corrected. Thanks for the history lesson, and I mean that with all sincerity. I was 12 in '88, so I couldn't remember all of the details. I just remember watching NASCAR on TNN and ESPN. I was thinking ESPN covered it more until the mid-90s, since most of what I remembered of TNN was the "Nashville" themed programs. I really liked Fandango. My parents and I would watch it every time it came on. Hey, didn't the host of Fandango start the Po Folks franchise? I think I remember a tie between the restaurant and him. Man, did they have some great gumbo!
Ken said:
Incorrect.
TNN went from The Nashville Network to The National Network to move away from its country roots. This occurred at the same time RAW debut on TNN. By then most country-themed programs were moved to CMT.
It wasn't enough.
The general public (especially the ignorant media) still associated TNN with country. This is why Viacom sought a name change, so they came up with Spike TV.
JayR said:
I know that too. But I also think with Turner owning both TNT and TBS Viacom didn't also want to own a network with the name TNN. Yes TNN did mean The Nashvile Network then National Network.
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