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Sponsors Dropping Imus:He Might Be In Bigger Trouble Than First Thought

When this story first broke I said that MSNBC and CBS would stay with Imus because he makes big money for them. Well now that some major sponsors are bailing, that could mean a different outcome for the I-Man.

That two week suspension might end up being the end of Imus on MSNBC and CBS radio. Of course Imus could end up taking his show to XM or Sirius, but he won't have the audience he has now. Another alternative is that Imus might just say the hell with it and retire.

Meanwhile does anyone have an idea what MSNBC and CBS radio will do during this two week suspension? MSNBC might just go ahead and feature morning news like CNN and FOX, but what about the radio stations that carry Imus? Will they have to resort to local talent to fill the void created by the Imus suspension?
 
This is such crap. Anyone who believes that his comment was racist is a figurative sheep. But you can read my explanation for that on the "Off The Air" board. Anyone with half a brain knows that it is extreme cowardice on the part of any sponsor to drop sponsorship because of this insignificant comment. If anything, this event will double Imus' listeners. Sponsors would be fools to drop their support.

Do you have a list of sponsors who will be dropping Imus?
 
Those RRRRs said:
This is such crap. Anyone who believes that his comment was racist is a figurative sheep. But you can read my explanation for that on the "Off The Air" board. Anyone with half a brain knows that it is extreme cowardice on the part of any sponsor to drop sponsorship because of this insignificant comment. If anything, this event will double Imus' listeners. Sponsors would be fools to drop their support.

Do you have a list of sponsors who will be dropping Imus?
Let's see those same thugs who went after Imus' insulting remarks go after those million $ rap stars who use the "ho" word in every other verse.

The silence is deafening.
 
Don62 said:
Let's see those same thugs who went after Imus' insulting remarks go after those million $ rap stars who use the "ho" word in every other verse.

The silence is deafening.

Frankly, I am seeing this used a lot as an excuse to give Imus a free pass for his comments. "Fine, you can fire Imus after you also fire all the rap stars" seems to be a refrain used in particular by the Fox News folks and the right wing talk shows. Let's get real for a moment. All of these comments from Imus came on what is ostensibly a NEWS network (counting the television side here), not on a shiny CD with a parental warning label on it. There is supposed to be a major difference between a news network and an entertainment product. I think it's a convenient tapdance argument being used to avoid confronting the issue head on.

First, I personally don't think Imus is a racist or that he needs to be fired, but a two week break did sound like a plan to me. There needs to be some consequences for all of this. As I wrote in another post, you do the pro-firing side no good to have Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton be the paragons of virtue on the issue of race and fairness considering their respective pasts.

Second, the bigger issue here is watching everyone try to grab a piece of the agenda pie here to push their respective causes and cash in wherever possible. It's revolting:

1) The Faux News froot loops this morning were advancing their conspiracy theory agenda that Imus would be given a free pass on NBC because Imus is a liberal (really???) on a liberal network, and if a conservative said this, he would have been fired. And Bill O'Reilly complains about Rosie? This one was the biggest stretch of them all and exposes the one trick pony Faux News enjoys riding hour after hour in show after show (Olbermann really must tick Ailes and friends off to the point where the spat has become an obsession for the "fair and balanced" network.) And, surprise, they were wrong even on their Krazy Fakts - Imus was booted off MSNBC.

2) Rev. Al's gi-normous cash-in (and Jesse Jackson beatdown as he becomes Mr. Also-ran at the hands of the Reverend Sharpton) makes him the agenda king. A groveling Imus at the microphone of the invisible "Keeping it Real" radio show Sharpton runs paid Imus no dividends. And Sharpton refused to sit in the studio alone with Imus during commercial breaks - that helps to keep the dialogue open real well. Any race issue that can be demagogued for attention (or better yet a cash settlement) and Sharpton is there.

3) The Rutgers team played their press conference to the hilt. I'd like to honestly know how many of those players even listen to AM radio, much less listen to or even know who Imus is. I would have been far more impressed had they met with Imus before holding the press conference. They remain, however, the only ones that will ultimately come out looking the best, as they should.

4) The claims of hand-wringing and self congratulatory back slapping by the folks at NBC and MSNBC was so transparent, birds were crashing into it thinking it wasn't even there. Does anyone here disagree that the real reason Imus was shown the door at MSNBC today, just 24 hours after MSNBC officials were spinning that his apology was sincere and that a two week suspension was appropriate, is that advertisers fled the network today? And they didn't just leave Imus - sponsors cancelled entire dayparts, and in droves.

But NBC conveniently decided to dump him today (hmmm... with a statement that just so happened to be coming right in time for "breaking news" on the NBC Nightly News) after "talking with employees to get their opinions," and "considering whether Imus was right for a national news network," and "looking at how this impacted the victims." OH PLEASE!!! Like NBC makes programming decisions based on the input of the office mail guy and the secretary. And Imus was apparently "right" for a network that's had him running for over a decade (along with endless reruns of Dateline, trash from Rita Cosby, wall to wall Anna Nicole, and a range of other decidedly non-news programming). The only thing NBC looked at was their bottom line.

5) "I definitely think we should stand behind Imus right up until they point we shouldn't!" The oh-so-brave "media analysts" and "pundits" and "media elites" who spent the last 24 hours showing their light as a feather allegiance to Imus until a light breeze turns them around. Steve Abugharib, Abu Dhabi, YabbaDabba or whoever the heck he is on MSNBC/Scarborough was the absolute worst, nearly breaking out in tears with his pride in being a part of a news operation that gave up the money and the ratings all to do the right thing for the American people and their employees. Gag!!! The only prostitutes actually involved in this entire affair turned out to be the pundits who will tailor their opinion to yours, for the right price!

Howard Fineman who yesterday was defending Imus up and down today pulled an Alberto Gonzalez, telling MSNBC audiences (who no doubt had whiplash from the instant turnaround) that he was on vacation, was scheduled to appear on Imus' show yesterday and wasn't really aware of what was going on. Yeah, here's someone we want helping to put news into context - the guy who was literally on vacation and out to lunch when the NHW bomb was dropped. He didn't know, he wasn't involved. Today, on cue, he flip-flopped to the hand-wringing corner.

And the list goes on and on. And as they run for cover as the S.S. Imus sinks, to protect their own tainted reps after getting Imus ooze on them, the rest of America will now have to endure another one of these hand wringing "race relations in America - a closer look at what's wrong with America and what you can do" obsessions in the press. And you can bet the same pundits and media elites that were giving high fives to Imus and making excuses for him will later this week be lecturing the rest of us on how we the people (you know, the powerless masses who don't run the corporate media that cancelled news on cable news) have allowed our culture to degenerate and look the other way when racism rears its head. Yeah, it's all our fault.

The real story here is that this country only obsesses about this issue when someone opens their mouth and says something stupid, be it Jimmy the Greek, Mel Gibson, or Don Imus. But the story is never really about them - it becomes about the collective we, the American people. If I got ahold of their halos, I'd beat them about their heads with them.

6) CBS Radio is now playing an episode of Survivor with itself. The island is getting mightly lonely now that MSNBC left. Now you know the real issue they are struggling with this evening - whether it's better to dump him overboard now, or wait for the ad dollar bonanza in two weeks (conveniently at the start of sweeps) when he'll be back from his vacation and America will listen in droves to hear what he says next! Proctor & Gamble may have yanked the Downy and Tide ads from MSNBC mornings, but on radio Oreck will sponsor anything and CBS knows it!

The whole thing is just amazingly pathetic. At the heart of it for the players involved is cold hard cash and media attention. It's the only altar they worship at.
 
Meanwhile on the radio show, Mike Barnicle will be filling in for Imus...the serial plagiarist has his own
skeletons in the closet including racial slurs and fabrications, etc.

http://www.howiecarr.com (includes .pdf files and a 2004 article, "Globe Columnist Apologizes for
Racial Remark")
 
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"Let's see those same thugs who went after Imus' insulting remarks go after those million $ rap stars who use the "ho" word in every other verse.

The silence is deafening."

No silence at all Don...if you are paying attention that is. Al Sharpton for several years has been leading a well-publicized campaign against demeaning lyrics in rap music. Check it out.

And oh by the way, i congratulate you on a nice attempt at changing the subject from Imus. Question for you, Don. If rap music were to get cleaned up (and a number of major rap stars like Kanye West don't engage in demeaning lyrics), and Imus keeps his job and continues his racism, will you be back here suggesting that Imus be canned? I await your reply...but I wont be holding my breath.

In the meantime...as you would say...the silence is deafening.
 
Meanwhile on the radio show, Mike Barnicle will be filling in for Imus...the serial plagiarist has his own
skeletons in the closet including racial slurs and fabrications, etc.

http://www.howiecarr.com (includes .pdf files and a 2004 article, "Globe Columnist Apologizes for
Racial Remark

Surely, you jest. Referring visitors to this board to the website of Howie Carr...Barnicle's arch-rival in Boston...and himself a notable bigot...for info on Barnicle? It's a little like referring us to Jessie Jackson's site for information about Judaism.
 
What has happened to this countrys sensitivities?

I also in no way endorse Imus and what he said, but think about this.

Remember the SNL sketch with Chevy Chase and Richard Pryor?

How about 'All In The Family'?

Do you think we could get away with that kind of humor today?

I work for a radio station that plays 70s and 80s music.

We got a complaint because we play "You're Sixteen" by Ringo Starr! Apparently we endorse pedophiles now, because we play that song!! W-freaking-T-F!!
 
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talkjim said:
"Let's see those same thugs who went after Imus' insulting remarks go after those million $ rap stars who use the "ho" word in every other verse.

The silence is deafening."

No silence at all Don...if you are paying attention that is. Al Sharpton for several years has been leading a well-publicized campaign against demeaning lyrics in rap music. Check it out.

And oh by the way, i congratulate you on a nice attempt at changing the subject from Imus. Question for you, Don. If rap music were to get cleaned up (and a number of major rap stars like Kanye West don't engage in demeaning lyrics), and Imus keeps his job and continues his racism, will you be back here suggesting that Imus be canned? I await your reply...but I wont be holding my breath.

In the meantime...as you would say...the silence is deafening.
talkjim said:
1) The Faux News
Sounds like you've bought Olbermann's spin hook, line and sinker.

I'm not trying to change the subject. I should have stated - but didn't because everyone else says it - I'm no fan of Imus. I've only heard him a time or two. I don't get his show.

I do not in any way agree with what Imus said.

But comparing his comments to what is repeated ad nauseum on vynl is a big case of hypocrisy.

Why let the gangster and cop-killer and cussin' rappers off the hook? They're even more guilty and have a bigger audience. They're jerks, low-lifes, hoodlums, criminals and every other thing you can think of. And they laugh all the way to the bank that such gullible "music listeners" buy their tripe.

Did you see Snoop-Dawg's written response to Imus? The cretin can't even write in proper English, let alone speak a line without the F- or N- word. What class.

However, I see the egregious wrong here in a couple of thugs who have their own agenda going after him all the while not using the same sanctimonious hot-air against their recording brethern ( what's the opposite of "ho's" ) against more blatant wrong-doers.

Are we going to let such thugs and low-lifes like Dull-ton and Ax-ton determine what is and isn't said on radio?

I don't remember anyone appointing them the judge of what can and cannot be said on the air, public ariwaves or not!
 
Did you see Snoop-Dawg's written response to Imus? The cretin can't even write in proper English, let alone speak a line without the F- or N- word. What class.

He wasn't attempting to write in proper English, he was writing in Ebonics. There are those who demand a bilingual (or multilingual) America in which people are free to speak in whatever language they want. We even have American radio stations on the American airwaves that have nothing but Spanish language programming! There are also advocates within the African-American community who demand that Ebonics be accepted as an alternative dialect of English, and that there should be no discrimination against anyone who chooses to speak in Ebonics instead of "proper" English.

The thing is, what Imus said is only offensive when spoken by a non-Ebonics speaker. Were an African-American to use those exact same words, that would be perfectly acceptable.

Perhaps those in the African-American community who are such strong advocates of Ebonics need to step forward and praise Imus for his pioneering work in promoting the use of Ebonics on the radio. After all, Hispanic pressure would surely support anyone who spoke Spanish on the air. So why aren't more African-Americans supporting Imus' use of Ebonics?
 
Snoop's "educated" response...
"It's a completely different scenario. [Rappers] are not talking about no collegiate basketball girls who have made it to the next level in education and sports. We're talking about hos that's in the 'hood that ain't doing (bleep), that's trying to get a (bleep) for his money. These are two separate things."

FROM FOX NEWS COMMENTARY...
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,265445,00.html

So Snoop's position is that he is an expert on who is a ho and who is not, and therefore he is licensed to label hos and others are not. He said:

"First of all, we ain't no old-ass white men that sit up on MSNBC going hard on black girls. We are rappers that have these songs coming from our minds and our souls that are relevant to what we feel. I will not let them (bleepers) say we in the same league as him."

So we can now assume that there is a higher form of calling someone a ho and a lower form of calling someone a ho. And when we hear Snoop call a woman that name then we can take it to the bank that she is, and it's OK that she is called that.

I don't think anyone should take seriously anything from Snoop's snout. Isn't he the one hit with gun and drug charges? What an authority.
 
Isn't he the one hit with gun and drug charges?

What do you mean "the one"? Getting hit with gun and drug charges are a rite of passage for members of his profession. It's a requirement to establish "street cred", whatever that means.

Personally, I think there needs to be a counterboycott of every company that dropped sponsorship of Imus.
 
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talkjim said:
No silence at all Don...if you are paying attention that is. Al Sharpton for several years has been leading a well-publicized campaign against demeaning lyrics in rap music. Check it out.

And oh by the way, i congratulate you on a nice attempt at changing the subject from Imus. Question for you, Don. If rap music were to get cleaned up (and a number of major rap stars like Kanye West don't engage in demeaning lyrics), and Imus keeps his job and continues his racism, will you be back here suggesting that Imus be canned? I await your reply...but I wont be holding my breath.

In the meantime...as you would say...the silence is deafening.
Thanks for the insult. You'd fit in well with trash FM morning radio.

So blowhard and bigot Sharpton has gone after record co's and Time-Warner, et. al?

Huh? Guess we never heard about that one in the media.

He sponsored big protests in front of the record co's corp. offices?

He went on Larry King live to a very sympathetic host?

He and Jesse (J)ass-son went on CNN so many times the network made them paid correspondents?

Sharpton and Jaxon don't give a da-- about demeaning lyrics. If they did, they would have humiliated the corporate powers as much as they humilated and rudely treated Imus.

Yep. That all happened. Right.

Get this about Sharp-DULL-ton. He's supposedly a minister, a man of God.
Imus genuinely asks for forgiveness- immediately.

Sharpton, the thug and criminal he is, turned his back on him and like a good "minister" denied Imus. So it's all about power and politics.
So much for Sharpton's legitimacy. He's a fake. A phony and a fraud.
 
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