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Sports on WWZN This Afternoon

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Laurence Glavin

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As part of its "progressive" package, WWZN-AM 1510 runs a taped-delayed "Thom Hartmann" show from 3:00 pm until 6:00 pm...usually. Today (Tursday) they were running Sporting News Radio talk instead. Did someone at WWZN fail to record the Thom Hartmann Show? If so, why wouldn't there be a backup plan?
 
I've heard that happen a few times, and at various parts of the day. My guess is that Sporting News Radio is still piped in 24-hours and if they have glitches with the daytime programming they pot-up Sporting News until the glitch is fixed.
 
FPB said:
I've heard that happen a few times, and at various parts of the day. My guess is that Sporting News Radio is still piped in 24-hours and if they have glitches with the daytime programming they pot-up Sporting News until the glitch is fixed.
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Well, the system should be a little more sophisticated. At each break, there should be an announcement to the effect that "Due to technical difficulties, we are unable to bring you the scheduled program at this time. Please stay tuned; we will bring you the scheduled program as soon as we are able to do so."
 
FPB said:
I've heard that happen a few times, and at various parts of the day. My guess is that Sporting News Radio is still piped in 24-hours and if they have glitches with the daytime programming they pot-up Sporting News until the glitch is fixed.
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A brokered talk station in my hometown did a similar thing, only if they had no hours sold, they would air WBBR in New York straight off the bird. Complete with New York traffic and weather reports.
 
Laurence Glavin said:
As part of its "progressive" package, WWZN-AM 1510 runs a taped-delayed "Thom Hartmann" show from 3:00 pm until 6:00 pm...usually. Today (Tursday) they were running Sporting News Radio talk instead. Did someone at WWZN fail
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No need to finish that sentence...
 
So far no dent has been made by WWZN in the PPMs (you can see them right here at radio-info, for May).
Doesn't show up, but they didn't really show up as a sports station either (btw the other night it seemed
like they were running progtalk after 8 pm for some reason, maybe Hartmann?) BZ and RKO did fairly
well, WTKK not so well (no Severin could be reason? but last time they also were lackluster)
 
>So far no dent has been made by WWZN in the PPMs (you can see them right here at radio-info, for May).
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All the conservatives are looking for any reason to declare this station's venture a failure, and all the progressives are shaking like leaves in a tree fearing the same thing. Somehow if WWZN doesn't have the most increadible numbers in the history of radio IMMEDIATELY then all is lost. Rediculous.
 
raccoonradio said:
So far no dent has been made by WWZN in the PPMs
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As I have pointed out here before--and I think, Bob, that you even acknowledged what I had posted--AFAIK, WWZN is not encoding for PPM. If that's the case, they will never show up. There is little financial incentive for the station or for Jeff Santos to pay for installation of the encoding equipment. The same holds true for any brokered-time station that appeals to a niche audience.

If WWZN is not encoding, no Liberal has any reason to lose even one moment's sleep over what you term a poor showing, because the best possible showing under these circumstances is zero!
 
DanStrassberg said:
As I have pointed out here before--and I think, Bob, that you even acknowledged what I had posted--AFAIK, WWZN is not encoding for PPM. If that's the case, they will never show up. There is little financial incentive for the station or for Jeff Santos to pay for installation of the encoding equipment. The same holds true for any brokered-time station that appeals to a niche audience.

If WWZN is not encoding, no Liberal has any reason to lose even one moment's sleep over what you term a poor showing, because the best possible showing under these circumstances is zero!
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There is no charge to stations for the PPM encoders. It's in Arbitron's interest to have as many stations as possible encoding, so it provides the boxes for free.

Bob has said he's not encoding on WJIB because he doesn't want ratings and the music licensing fees they incur. I don't think WWZN has that problem.
 
Scott Fybush said:
There is no charge to stations for the PPM encoders. It's in Arbitron's interest to have as many stations as possible encoding, so it provides the boxes for free.
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I'm aware that the encoding hardware costs the stations nothing. BUT my understanding is that the station must pay for the cost of installing the hardware. Until you can disabuse me of that notion, I stand by my statement.
 
That is true. The STATION must pay for the actual installation of the Aribtron encoding equipment. The payments are to the stations' own tech person, not to Arbitron. There would be more costs down the road, too... for maintenance, testing and (if needed) repair of such.
 
Laurence Glavin said:
Did someone at WWZN fail to record the Thom Hartmann Show? If so, why wouldn't there be a backup plan?
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I just read on the r-i Engineering board that the outage that prompted this thread a week or two ago affected not just the Dial-Global Progressive-talk streams, but ALL Dial-Global streams for all formats, including all flavors of talk as well as music. One of the posters in the Engineering thread was not very pleased with Dial-Global but another said that none of D-G's competitors is any better when it comes to telephone support of engineers at stations that lose the satellite feeds. One poster said he had found that e-mail support worked a lot better than phone support at pretty much all of the Satellite program providers.
 
Scott Fybush said:
Bob has said he's not encoding on WJIB because he doesn't want ratings and the music licensing fees they incur. I don't think WWZN has that problem.
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Do theme songs count? Like, for example, if Stephanie Miller, for argument's sake, is the highest rated WWZN host, does this mean WWZN has to pay a boatload of money to Katrina and the Waves?
 
music royalties

As far as I know, there are different rates for use of copyrighted music
on stations that are not primarily music formats, as well as based on market size...
 
For existing ASCAP and BMI (royalties for songWRITERS), talk stations using bumpers must pay a small fee (small compared to music stations).

In the current attempted RIAA money-grab, it is proposed that talk stations will not have to pay anything to the record companies/performers of the songs.
 
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