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SportsNet NY on Time Warner Cable/Albany

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This info comes from the TV Guide channel believe it or not... No mention of
this on the time warner website....

SportsNet NY will be on Channel 66 on STANDARD cable here in Albany.

They are removing fuse from the standard service and keeping it on channel 1205 as a digital channel only.. Sports Net will also be on channel 619... How about
the Hudson Valley?
 
> This info comes from the TV Guide channel believe it or
> not... No mention of
> this on the time warner website....
>
> SportsNet NY will be on Channel 66 on STANDARD cable here in
> Albany.

Not sure about the Hudson Valley. Out west towards Syracuse, however, the channel is being added (to digital, I believe) later this month. They did not announce anything being dropped or bumped to a different tier to make up for it.

Not surprised it's not on their website though... out here, they don't seem to be very adept at keeping the website updated with this kind of stuff. Here we found out by seeing it reported in the paper and on TV.

Putting announcements on the TV Guide channel here is useless to many people, because in the Syracuse region, the TV Guide channel is blocked out if you're using a digital cable converter. You need to be on analog or not using a box to see the TVGC.

(Which I don't miss, as long as the interactive program guide is there. Those TV Guide "shows" are horrible and there's nothing worse than missing the channe you wanted to see by mere seconds and having to wait for it to cycle all the way through to the end, then list all the PPV/HBO movies before it starts at the top of the lineup again.)
 
> Not sure about the Hudson Valley. Out west towards
> Syracuse, however, the channel is being added (to digital, I
> believe) later this month. They did not announce anything
> being dropped or bumped to a different tier to make up for
> it.

It'll be on analog in Rochester, on channel 77. They're also adding Boomerang to our digital tier. $2 extra a month for two channels I'll never watch (except if there are Mets-Red Sox interleague games this season, and even then I'm not sure I'd bother.)

I'm not generally a fan of a la carte cable - I'm not at all convinced it would really lower rates in most instances - but I'd be very much in favor of providing some sort of opt-out of the expensive sports nets. If my cable bill didn't include the cost of the ESPN networks, MSG, YES, SNNY and Fox Sports, I'd be moderately less grumbly about paying it every month.

> Putting announcements on the TV Guide channel here is
> useless to many people, because in the Syracuse region, the
> TV Guide channel is blocked out if you're using a digital
> cable converter. You need to be on analog or not using a
> box to see the TVGC.

TVGC isn't on the Rochester system at all. You either have the digital box with its built-in EPG, or you don't get a program guide at all.<P ID="signature">______________
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Boomerang

I, for one, will be glad to see Boomerang on TWC. I've enjoyed the on-demand service that has been offered for that channel, and I'm sure I'll be watching it occaisionally once it becomes a full channel. I love the stupid, juvenile, and cheaply produced cartoons of my youth and the better-produced cartoons that preceded my youth, like Looney Tunes and Tom & Jerry.
 
> but I'd be very much in favor of providing some sort of
> opt-out of the expensive sports nets. If my cable bill
> didn't include the cost of the ESPN networks, MSG, YES, SNNY
> and Fox Sports, I'd be moderately less grumbly about paying
> it every month.

I remember the Utica paper had an article about this when the YES Network was added to Adelphia cable out there. Quite a few people voiced concern that they didn't want their cable bill going up for a channel they don't want. But the YES Network contract has an "all or nothing" clause requiring it be carried as a standard channel, rather than a pay-premium channel... and people wanting the channel apparently outnumbered those opposing it.

Even though a la carte cable may not be cheaper in the long run, I still think it would be a more "fair" way to weed out some of the crappier channels nobody really watches. With package lineups, I'm paying for 150+ channels when I really only watch about 15 or 20 on a regular or semi-regular basis. And I'm sure there are plenty of channels on the cable lineup that are just there to help increase the overall total number of channels so it looks impressive to people. There are channels I've never even watched or have any interest in watching -- but in order to get certain channels I *do* want, I have to pay more to subsidize a bunch of extra channels I couldn't care less about.

Despite the opinions for and against it, more than anything, I just think it could be interesting to see "what happens if" they really did a la carte... to see which channels would die out from lack of subscribers.

> TVGC isn't on the Rochester system at all. You either have
> the digital box with its built-in EPG, or you don't get a
> program guide at all.

It's almost a wonder TVGC hasn't just given up already, considering digital and satellite systems usually have their own on-screen program guide. As more and more customers go digital, TVGC will be less and less worth whatever time/cost/effort is put into running it. Look at Verizon, getting ready to launch TV via fiber near Syracuse ... if it's all digital right off the bat, there won't be a need for TVGC at all. Makes ya think how far things have come since the days when you could turn on Prevue Guide and sometimes catch someone at the cable company breaking into "edit mode" to add or change the local announcement pages, right on the air. I often wondered if that was by mistake or if there was really no other way to make those updates.
 
Re: Boomerang

> I, for one, will be glad to see Boomerang on TWC. I've
> enjoyed the on-demand service that has been offered for that
> channel, and I'm sure I'll be watching it occaisionally once
> it becomes a full channel. I love the stupid, juvenile, and
> cheaply produced cartoons of my youth and the
> better-produced cartoons that preceded my youth, like Looney
> Tunes and Tom & Jerry.

We already have Boomerang on digital in the CNY region, and yes, it's great. It reminds me of what Cartoon Network "used" to be when it first showed up on the lineup several years ago... a lot of old Hanna-Barbera (Flintstones, Jetsons, Scooby Doo, and the like) and some other classics like those you mentioned. And since the movie came out, they've been showing a lot of Pink Panther cartoons, which I haven't seen in AGES. I can barely even remember what channel was the last to air those regularly... I want to say TNT for some reason, but I really can't recall.

I've also caught a few times, newer (or at least newer to me) versions of Daffy Duck and Scooby Doo. Now and then they also show "newer classics" (that goes up there with "plastic glass") like Dexter's Laboratory... which I don't care for much, but it's there. Lots more stuff than is offered "on demand."
 
It's interesting that Time Warner links the price increase to "adding" two new channels, Sportsnet NY as one of them. Everyone knows about the high programming fees for sports channels and the niche market they serve. Of course, the way Time Warner makes it sound, the price increase was needed to off-set the cost of carrying Sportsnet NY and Boomerang.

Now to the point: You may want to check who is the owner of this new sports network. I highly doubt Time Warner is paying carriage fees for Sportsnet New York. The reason is simple: THEY OWN THE STATION! So blame the price increase wherever you want, but in the end, Time Warner is "ADDING" a station they have OWNERSHIP in and increasing rates blaming the addition of new channels for the increase.



> > Not sure about the Hudson Valley. Out west towards
> > Syracuse, however, the channel is being added (to digital,
> I
> > believe) later this month. They did not announce anything
>
> > being dropped or bumped to a different tier to make up for
>
> > it.
>
> It'll be on analog in Rochester, on channel 77. They're also
> adding Boomerang to our digital tier. $2 extra a month for
> two channels I'll never watch (except if there are Mets-Red
> Sox interleague games this season, and even then I'm not
> sure I'd bother.)
>
> I'm not generally a fan of a la carte cable - I'm not at all
> convinced it would really lower rates in most instances -
> but I'd be very much in favor of providing some sort of
> opt-out of the expensive sports nets. If my cable bill
> didn't include the cost of the ESPN networks, MSG, YES, SNNY
> and Fox Sports, I'd be moderately less grumbly about paying
> it every month.
>
> > Putting announcements on the TV Guide channel here is
> > useless to many people, because in the Syracuse region,
> the
> > TV Guide channel is blocked out if you're using a digital
> > cable converter. You need to be on analog or not using a
> > box to see the TVGC.
>
> TVGC isn't on the Rochester system at all. You either have
> the digital box with its built-in EPG, or you don't get a
> program guide at all.
>
 
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