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Springer toast on second OH affiliate

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ajhenderson

Replaced with the original morning show on Clear Channel's Columbus libtalker WPTG, Morning Sedition. Steph Miller remains in his live spot, 9-noon, and the rest of the lineup remains the same, including the godawful Majority Report. Not even a best-of on the weekend.

It could be argued that only bad talk stations run political shows on a 21-hr delay (if anyone at Renda in Pittsburgh is reading this...), but one would think Springer would replace Randi or a later show, much like he has and currently does on KKZN/Denver, KLSD/SD, et al.

Being that this cancellation was initiated by Springer's own syndicator on an 0&O station on his home turf of Ohio, what does this say for his political relevance and his future on the air? Is it time for folks to start dusting off their resumes for a local middmorning show at the Big One?
 
> Replaced with the original morning show on Clear Channel's
> Columbus libtalker WPTG, Morning Sedition. Steph Miller
> remains in his live spot, 9-noon, and the rest of the lineup
> remains the same, including the godawful Majority Report.
> Not even a best-of on the weekend.
>
> It could be argued that only bad talk stations run political
> shows on a 21-hr delay (if anyone at Renda in Pittsburgh is
> reading this...), but one would think Springer would replace
> Randi or a later show, much like he has and currently does
> on KKZN/Denver, KLSD/SD, et al.
>
> Being that this cancellation was initiated by Springer's own
> syndicator on an 0&O station on his home turf of Ohio, what
> does this say for his political relevance and his future on
> the air? Is it time for folks to start dusting off their
> resumes for a local middmorning show at the Big One?
>

Save your resume paper, unless you can do a live show, VT news to 4 different markets, handle promotions at 'MMS and KISS (on the same day AT THE SAME TIME), and also clean floors, make coffee, and lock up at night.

Anyone willing to work in Independence 29 hours a day for a buck fiddy?

I jest...to a point.

But I agree that Springer's days are numbered. But will Kevin ever admit he was wrong and pull Jerry? I DOUBT IT.
 
> Being that this cancellation was initiated by Springer's own
> syndicator on an 0&O station on his home turf of Ohio, what
> does this say for his political relevance and his future on
> the air? Is it time for folks to start dusting off their
> resumes for a local middmorning show at the Big One?

There's always the possibility that the Other Shoe Has Yet To Drop, and that Springer could resurface later. Randi's only on WTPG from 6-7 PM, and Majority Report runs 7-10...I'm guessing if he did return, it'd be to replace that latter show.

This move may only be an admission that running a 21-hour-old issues talk show is a bad idea. Not to mention the fact that frankly, Springer's style doesn't really fit morning drive... and with Ms. Miller actually getting decent ratings for 1230 in the live 9-noon slot, they aren't moving her.

-OA<P ID="signature">______________
Ohio Media Watch - <a target="_blank" href=http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com>http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com</a></P>
 
> But I agree that Springer's days are numbered. But will
> Kevin ever admit he was wrong and pull Jerry? I DOUBT IT.

Or will CC admit they were wrong and pull Kevin?
 
> > But I agree that Springer's days are numbered. But will
> > Kevin ever admit he was wrong and pull Jerry? I DOUBT IT.
>
>
> Or will CC admit they were wrong and pull Kevin?

CC is controlled by the ex-Jacor execs. Home turf: Cincinnati (yeah, it's Covington, I know). Springer's home turf: same place.

My guess is that Kevin had this decision shoved down his throat.
>
 
> CC is controlled by the ex-Jacor execs. Home turf:
> Cincinnati (yeah, it's Covington, I know). Springer's home
> turf: same place.
>
> My guess is that Kevin had this decision shoved down his
> throat.

No, he's just an idiot.

Infinity/ABC HQs: NYC. Michael Savage's home turf: NYC. Yet no connection... one of many. The Cincinnati connection is purely coincidental, except that CC PDs seem to think that Springer's Ohio political failures make him a latter-day Ohioan, which is as true as he is a latter-day Londonite.
 
> > > But I agree that Springer's days are numbered. But will
>
> > > Kevin ever admit he was wrong and pull Jerry? I DOUBT
> IT.
> >
> >
> > Or will CC admit they were wrong and pull Kevin?
>
> CC is controlled by the ex-Jacor execs. Home turf:
> Cincinnati (yeah, it's Covington, I know). Springer's home
> turf: same place.
>
> My guess is that Kevin had this decision shoved down his
> throat.
> >
>

Actually, most of the Jacor guys have been pushed out by the Mays. When Randy Michaels went, it was every Jacor guy for himself. In fact, Jim Meltzer (CC-Cleveland EVP/GM) is one of the only Jacor big shots left in charge.

The Jacor radio empire was THE REASON for CC's "success" and the Mays unceremoniously gave them the boot.

John Gorman wrote about it about two years ago in the Free Times. Too lazy to find the link now. I'll append it tomorrow.
 
>The Jacor radio empire was THE REASON for CC's "success" and the Mays >unceremoniously gave them the boot.

Yeah, bet they cried all the way to the bank. Wish I could get such an "unceremonious" boot.

Fact is that CC was a successful company.... so was Jacor. CC would have succeeded with or without the Jacor acquistion. Their corporate cultures just didn't mesh.... Buttoned-down Lowry vs. Anything-goes Randy. I'm sure Randy and his possee knew going into the deal what their own "exit strategies" were.

As for Mr. Gorman.... while he occastionally makes some correct observations (blind squirrel theory), he's one of the few people who write about this biz that are LESS credible than Roger Brown.
 
> As for Mr. Gorman.... while he occastionally makes some
> correct observations (blind squirrel theory), he's one of
> the few people who write about this biz that are LESS
> credible than Roger Brown.
>


Give some examples, please, of incorrect reporting. From what I read, he seems to be right on nearly all the time, and is not afraid to name names.
 
> > CC is controlled by the ex-Jacor execs. Home turf:
> > Cincinnati (yeah, it's Covington, I know). Springer's home
>
> > turf: same place.
> >
> > My guess is that Kevin had this decision shoved down his
> > throat.
>
> No, he's just an idiot.
>
> Infinity/ABC HQs: NYC. Michael Savage's home turf: NYC. Yet
> no connection... one of many.

I thought Savage was still based in San Francisco.

Savage is syndicated by Talk Radio Networks; he was on WABC until two years ago, then was bumped for fellow TRNer Laura Ingraham. Savage landed on WOR/710, owned by Buckely. In San Fran, he's now on a CC station (KNEW-AM).

But two examples of incestuous programming on the radio dial easily come to mind:

Example #1: Sean Hannity's national show is owned by ABC, and did land on most of ABC O&O's, including WJR/Detroit and WMAL/Washington. WMAL's clearance took place right when Sean went national (four years ago as of Saturday) and they bumped a long-time local host into the evening hours.

Exhibit #2: There were a considerable amount of CC sports stations (including 1350/Akron) that flipped to FSR shortly after it's launch. FSR is operated by CC's syndication arm, Premiere.

So it CAN take place.

- nate81<P ID="signature">______________
Nathan Obral
University Partnership Representative: LCCC Student Senate, Elyria, Ohio

The Morning Love with Mark and Sarah - Fridays 9AM EDT on Duck Radio!</P>
 
> > As for Mr. Gorman.... while he occastionally makes some
> > correct observations (blind squirrel theory), he's one of
> > the few people who write about this biz that are LESS
> > credible than Roger Brown.
> >
>
>
> Give some examples, please, of incorrect reporting. From
> what I read, he seems to be right on nearly all the time,
> and is not afraid to name names.
>

I have a feeling that he's referring to the "WTAM's Bill Wills taped interview" debable that WTAM put on themselves. And they've never set the record straight. Triv squirmed on the air as if he'd been shown the cross - but when you fail to reconcile what has been written or said, then it risks being accepted as fact.

Bottom line: John Gorman has never started an item with "Word is," never makes "we think" or "we say" references, and has a good amount of credibility. Roger has a whole lot of "crudability" - and it bring down the PD staff as a whole. John has gravitas, plus the Free Times usually has nothing to lose.

- nate81 <P ID="signature">______________
Nathan Obral
University Partnership Representative: LCCC Student Senate, Elyria, Ohio

The Morning Love with Mark and Sarah - Fridays 9AM EDT on Duck Radio!</P>
 
Savage's Location

> I thought Savage was still based in San Francisco.
>
> Savage is syndicated by Talk Radio Networks; he was on WABC
> until two years ago, then was bumped for fellow TRNer Laura
> Ingraham. Savage landed on WOR/710, owned by Buckely. In San
> Fran, he's now on a CC station (KNEW-AM).

You are correct on all counts above. Savage is still based in the San Francisco Bay Area - he has, I believe, two usual studio locations...his home in Marin County, north of San Francisco, and a studio in a downtown SF office complex. He has not used his "flagship" stations' studios for years, since he stopped doing the show at ABC's KSFO/560...though I assume he would have use of CC's San Francisco studios if he needed them.

The CC station - KNEW - signed him to a separate local contract to get him to move from KSFO.

-OA<P ID="signature">______________
Ohio Media Watch - <a target="_blank" href=http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com>http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com</a></P>
 
WTPG also added News at the bottom of the hour (for at least the 7a -9a time slots) and 'Timesaver' techno-remix Traffic. Some good improvments, though occassionally they run the 'only progressive talk radio station in all of ohio' at the top of the hour.
 
> Replaced with the original morning show on Clear Channel's
> Columbus libtalker WPTG, Morning Sedition. Steph Miller
> remains in his live spot, 9-noon, and the rest of the lineup
> remains the same, including the godawful Majority Report.
> Not even a best-of on the weekend.
>
> It could be argued that only bad talk stations run political
> shows on a 21-hr delay (if anyone at Renda in Pittsburgh is
> reading this...), but one would think Springer would replace
> Randi or a later show, much like he has and currently does
> on KKZN/Denver, KLSD/SD, et al.
>
> Being that this cancellation was initiated by Springer's own
> syndicator on an 0&O station on his home turf of Ohio, what
> does this say for his political relevance and his future on
> the air? Is it time for folks to start dusting off their
> resumes for a local middmorning show at the Big One?

Well, well. I wouldn't get THAT hopeful.

At least WTPG has a live show in AMD now. Remember: whatever aired on Monday morning was recorded on Friday at 9am! Any discussions of hot issues at the start of the week would have to wait until Steph Miller came on. Not good.

It's the FACT that WTAM's 9a-11:30a ratings tumbled after Jerry displaced Glenn Beck. Meanwhile ol' Glenn has solidly registered on an otherwise NON-FACTOR in WHLO/640 (and will soon on WEOL/930, mark my words). THAT'S the real crisis at the Oaktree Compound.

And I will say this: if WTAM does dumps Jerry, Kevin can't be far behind.

- nate81<P ID="signature">______________
Nathan Obral
University Partnership Representative: LCCC Student Senate, Elyria, Ohio

The Morning Love with Mark and Sarah - Fridays 9AM EDT on Duck Radio!</P>
 
> > Being that this cancellation was initiated by Springer's
> own
> > syndicator on an 0&O station on his home turf of Ohio,
> what
> > does this say for his political relevance and his future
> on
> > the air? Is it time for folks to start dusting off their
> > resumes for a local middmorning show at the Big One?
>
> There's always the possibility that the Other Shoe Has Yet
> To Drop, and that Springer could resurface later. Randi's
> only on WTPG from 6-7 PM, and Majority Report runs
> 7-10...I'm guessing if he did return, it'd be to replace
> that latter show.

At least when the Reds season ends. WTPG is Columbus' Reds affilate, after years on big brother WTVN/610. "Majority Report" here, like Randi on 1350 acts as non-sports filler, so it's not on that much.

Maybe Jerry resurfaces on WTVN in a weekend capacity. And only in that form. I don't think they're THAT nuts to dump Glenn Beck, no?

> This move may only be an admission that running a
> 21-hour-old issues talk show is a bad idea. Not to mention
> the fact that frankly, Springer's style doesn't really fit
> morning drive... and with Ms. Miller actually getting decent
> ratings for 1230 in the live 9-noon slot, they aren't moving
> her.

And as I stated up on the board, think about big events that happen on the weekend. Big news stories that have to wait until 9am, because your station is playing a 69-HOUR-OLD (!!!) pre-recorded show FROM FRIDAY MORNING, and is quite irrelavant at this point.

- nate81<P ID="signature">______________
Nathan Obral
University Partnership Representative: LCCC Student Senate, Elyria, Ohio

The Morning Love with Mark and Sarah - Fridays 9AM EDT on Duck Radio!</P>
 
> At least when the Reds season ends. WTPG is Columbus' Reds
> affilate, after years on big brother WTVN/610. "Majority
> Report" here, like Randi on 1350 acts as non-sports filler,
> so it's not on that much.

A number of CC's new AAR have existing sports contracts they wish they didn't have to contend with, and which will go by the wayside eventually... suppose that's what happens when you flip sports stations.

Central Ohioans get the Reds on WLW anyway? Maybe lackluster can fill some time with the Reds, so Columbus can hear the day games on 850's 50kW day stick.
 
Re: Savage's Location

> He is from New York, although he has lived in SF
>
He lives in SF, or perhaps outside of SF, and does his show from SF, alternating between his own studio and occasionally from CC's SF complex.
 
Re: Savage's Location

> He is from New York, although he has lived in SF

For some time, actually, since he was doing weekends at KGO in the early-to-mid-90's, then starting his local show on KSFO/560.

But it's not at all hard to tell his NYC roots...every time he opens up his mouth with that thick NYC accent!

-OA<P ID="signature">______________
Ohio Media Watch - <a target="_blank" href=http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com>http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com</a></P>
 
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