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In case anybody's interested, sounds like the Standards format is back on 730 & 1440.
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Yes, I'm very interested or WAS......I'm one of those guys like Padre Carten who loves those old songs. I sold WEJL/WBAX Popular Standards for 3 years and loved it. My billing with WEJL and Rock 107 was about even. Even got a remote from a few 25 to 54 rock solid demos by doing promotions that spanned the age and music gap. At Citadel I was thrilled when they turned 1550 into The Music Of Your Life. Since the demise of APS on the AM dial, I have taken to getting CDs burned with the old stuff locking myself away listening to the tunes while my wife derides me as an old fa** listening to old fa** music. Hah, I thought, let her have Bon Jovi and Van Halen, I'll have Bennett, Sinatra, Clooney and even Georgia Carroll from the old Kay Keyser orchestra. Getting ready for chemo today (which lasts 4 hours) I had the walkman set up to hear those tunes. Before leaving the house, I flipped on 730 AM to hear that killer daytime signal that made WNAK what it was! And all I got was STATIC. In the Oncology place, I turned the Walkman on, STATIC. I even sweet talked a tech to switch her radio, a boom box and I got STATIC. Arriving home at 4 PM, you guessed it STATIC. Did they forget to flip the switch? Did they not pay the Electric Bill? WARM has taken its knocks on this board because of poor signal problems but at least they are there everyday when you want them. Same with ESPN Sports Radio but there are 3 signals you can get, same with FOX sports that has 3 to choose from. Yeah, I'm interested....if they just had the good sense to turn it on. Or is this a new format dreamed up by Ira and the boys called ALL STATIC, ALL THE TIME. HEAR NOTHING AND YOU WON'T BE DISAPPONTED!
Yikes!
Yonkstur
Yikes!
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DStroyer
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Sorry to get your hopes up 
I happened to be doing my once-every-6-months flip through the AM dial and caught it at around Midnight on Wednesday night. I heard Perry Como, followed by a ID saying something about "all your favorites are back on 730 WNAK and 1440 WCDL", or something like that. Maybe it was somebody's idea of nostalgia (or a joke/f.u.?), knowing they were going to be shutting the station(s) down.
I happened to be doing my once-every-6-months flip through the AM dial and caught it at around Midnight on Wednesday night. I heard Perry Como, followed by a ID saying something about "all your favorites are back on 730 WNAK and 1440 WCDL", or something like that. Maybe it was somebody's idea of nostalgia (or a joke/f.u.?), knowing they were going to be shutting the station(s) down.
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yonkstur
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Sorry to get your hopes up
No apologies needed. Thanks for keeping us in the loop.
Yonkstur
No apologies needed. Thanks for keeping us in the loop.
Yonkstur
It was on yesterday afternoon and into the evening for a bit. Tried today and got STATIC. 1440 was on and clear as a bell. Wonder if they are having remote issues from "broadcast central" down to nannycoke. ;D
One of the tree's at the transmitter site gave way on Thanksgiving day and fell thru the power lines and ripped the lines and box from the building. The earliest we can have it back up is Monday or Tuesday since it calls for an inspection to make sure it's up to code. It seems that between trees' falling, isdn lines dropping, powers outs and the gremlins from the old location, it's hard to catch a break.
I heard some nice sounds out of 730 -- I think it was 730 and not 740. What's up with the format and what can you tell me for next Sunday's column?
Ooops; my mistake. I had 740 playing instead of Nannycoke.
Its been a real chuckle to follow the adventures of WNAK and WCDL here and reading the posts, it looks like they're off the air more then they're on! There are ways to make their audio hookup a lot more dependable then the way they are apparently are now, I've seen audio fed to stations via cable internet and DSL that never went out in years! And its a LOT less expensive then ISDN, you don't need 15khz audio on AM when 7.5 works well enough. Whatever happens though, hope the standards will STAY there (PS: isn't it an FCC rule that the unmodulated carrier MUST go off after a certain time with loss of audio?)
Dave, it's not the isdn line that's down. It's the power lines that were taken out by a falling tree so if you hear an unmodulated signal on 730AM it's not WNAK. The earliest back on time given to me was late Monday or Tuesday
They're baaaack.
The dead carrier comment may be a reference to the WCDL ice storm a few weeks ago. I was promised by PPL over and over that power would be restored "shortly". When it got ridiculous, I killed the carrier. We have been haunted by more than our share of problems with the landlines, but the cost and complexity of other audio delivery methods makes this the most efficient. Besides, if we ever decide to switch on the AM Stereo again, it'll sound better than ever!
Mike,
Earning my Engineering Scout Badge
The dead carrier comment may be a reference to the WCDL ice storm a few weeks ago. I was promised by PPL over and over that power would be restored "shortly". When it got ridiculous, I killed the carrier. We have been haunted by more than our share of problems with the landlines, but the cost and complexity of other audio delivery methods makes this the most efficient. Besides, if we ever decide to switch on the AM Stereo again, it'll sound better than ever!
Mike,
Earning my Engineering Scout Badge
I'm happy to read that 730 went back to Standards format driving through last winter on my way to upstate NY tuned in to Wnak you know how it goes when you live hundreds of miles away and drive through a market you worked in the past you always tune in to the stations you once worked at and heard Spanish radio. Called the GM left a voice mail on what a major mistake it was to change formats lets face it Wnak always had good ratings playing music for the dead if it ain't broke don't fix it I know for a fact Spanish radio may get good ratings in markets where a lot of Latinos move in the problem is selling it when you do sell air time get at least half your money up front if not Spanish merchants don't like to pay and when they do it is like pulling an eye tooth I know I experimented at a central Florida radio station on a limited basis and it was a financial disaster.I wonder if the rocket scientist who came up with the great idea of format change still has a job
I think it's the same voice of their savings club thing on the FM spots. I just heard the same voice on liners for AM1340 WHAT in Philly just the other day. They are doing all christmas and going to some form of standards after the holidays as well.
My "Wax Museum" column on in Sunday's CV (12-7) starts with mention of WNAK. "Lifestyle" section, D-6, "Welcome back, WNAK."
edit: I see the ad in Saturday's TL and had told Bill Knight (or somebody) that I'd plug the station in my column. Let's change that: There are *two* newspapers in town and both accept advertising.
edit: I see the ad in Saturday's TL and had told Bill Knight (or somebody) that I'd plug the station in my column. Let's change that: There are *two* newspapers in town and both accept advertising.
Somebody help me understand this.
In what is almost 2009, in an economy where terrestrial radio is fighting for its very life, where cutbacks are daily and, in some cases, severe, we now have someone rolling the dice and betting two old and weary AM stations can succeed by playing music. Is that a fair assessment?
Is it just me, or is this an absurdity, a folly if you will, without precedent?
Look, I know half a dozen guys around here lead with their sentimentality and will think this is a swell idea, but how about logic and reason?
I've said this before, but here goes again: I spent all of my radio career on the AM band, yet knew in my heart and soul that AM was finished as long as thirty years ago.
It's over, guys, and it ain't going to make a comeback. I know with certainty that one whose name is so revered here, the late and beloved George Gilbert, was aware of AM being passe back when the calendar turned 1980.
So help me, I am not trying to kick up a an argument here, but would you invest what's left of your 401(k) on an AM music operation? Discussion? Explanation? Speculation?
Despite that, Merry Christmas!
P.S. Christmas music? Sure, get all I want off my sat radio.
In what is almost 2009, in an economy where terrestrial radio is fighting for its very life, where cutbacks are daily and, in some cases, severe, we now have someone rolling the dice and betting two old and weary AM stations can succeed by playing music. Is that a fair assessment?
Is it just me, or is this an absurdity, a folly if you will, without precedent?
Look, I know half a dozen guys around here lead with their sentimentality and will think this is a swell idea, but how about logic and reason?
I've said this before, but here goes again: I spent all of my radio career on the AM band, yet knew in my heart and soul that AM was finished as long as thirty years ago.
It's over, guys, and it ain't going to make a comeback. I know with certainty that one whose name is so revered here, the late and beloved George Gilbert, was aware of AM being passe back when the calendar turned 1980.
So help me, I am not trying to kick up a an argument here, but would you invest what's left of your 401(k) on an AM music operation? Discussion? Explanation? Speculation?
Despite that, Merry Christmas!
P.S. Christmas music? Sure, get all I want off my sat radio.
Did you get that traffic information about the accident on I-81 from Sirius-XM? How about the local high school football championship? AM radio IS viable. Look at the sharp increase in ratings for the WILK stations. Yes, they are on FM - but they're also on three AM frequencies. I love my XM, but it doesn't give me a bit of local information. How about the latest PPM ratings by share (if you trust them) for major markets:
New York: #3 WINS-AM, WABC #7, WCBS-AM #10
Philadelphia: #2 KYW, #5 WPHT, #8 WIP
San Fran: #1 KGO, #4 KCBS, #6tie KNBR, #9tie KSFO
How about smaller markets?
Omaha/Council Bluffs: #1 KFAB
Wilkes-Barre/Scranton: #4 WILK-AM
To borrow a line from Monty Python, "I'm not dead yet"
AM radio must make good use of niche. Whether it is local service, news/talk or anything in between. Here's an interesting article:
http://www.allbusiness.com/north-america/united-states-north-carolina/334755-1.html
Mike
New York: #3 WINS-AM, WABC #7, WCBS-AM #10
Philadelphia: #2 KYW, #5 WPHT, #8 WIP
San Fran: #1 KGO, #4 KCBS, #6tie KNBR, #9tie KSFO
How about smaller markets?
Omaha/Council Bluffs: #1 KFAB
Wilkes-Barre/Scranton: #4 WILK-AM
To borrow a line from Monty Python, "I'm not dead yet"
AM radio must make good use of niche. Whether it is local service, news/talk or anything in between. Here's an interesting article:
http://www.allbusiness.com/north-america/united-states-north-carolina/334755-1.html
Mike
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