Standards/Elevator Music on 540 in Pensacola?

[Poledo]

Ginters 95.7 licensed to navarre is for sale too. http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WGCX&service=FM&status=L&hours=U

Someone suggested a long while back that Star Broadcasting of Fort Walton was looking to acquire 95.7 to replace WTKE 98.1 once the courts had carved it's fate in stone. 95.7 would be a perfect replacement for WTKE as it could cover the core target audience in Pensacola and Destin well in mono.

Schroeder's WPNN 790 puts a good signal 15-20 miles out at night with only 66 watts! Hey Rob, can you pick it up at night?

WVTJ 610 looks good on paper, but the signal has been horrible for at least the last 15 years. I believe it was a (the?) top station in Pensacola before FM came along. I assume the station is old and just needs to be rebuilt. Are there any south-of-the-border stations that would interfere with it at night?

Didn't someone find a connection between the Glinter family and Wilkins Radio a while back? I'm pulling this from the trash in the back of my brain, but I think Glinter is the majority owner of Wilkins Radio along with a lawyer in South Carolina.

The mysterious 530-540 I've been tracking wasn't on the air today. Don't know what that means. I did notice that there are about 6 real estate offices within 1 mile of the place I've been hearing it, so I'm leaning toward the idea that someone had a "talking house" on rebroadcasting a sirius, xm, or music choice station.

 

[radioguybroadcasting]

Ginters 95.7 licensed to navarre is for sale too. http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WGCX&service=FM&status=L&hours=U

Someone suggested a long while back that Star Broadcasting of Fort Walton was looking to acquire 95.7 to replace WTKE 98.1 once the courts had carved it's fate in stone. 95.7 would be a perfect replacement for WTKE as it could cover the core target audience in Pensacola and Destin well in mono.

Schroeder's WPNN 790 puts a good signal 15-20 miles out at night with only 66 watts! Hey Rob, can you pick it up at night?

WVTJ 610 looks good on paper, but the signal has been horrible for at least the last 15 years. I believe it was a (the?) top station in Pensacola before FM came along. I assume the station is old and just needs to be rebuilt. Are there any south-of-the-border stations that would interfere with it at night?

Didn't someone find a connection between the Glinter family and Wilkins Radio a while back? I'm pulling this from the trash in the back of my brain, but I think Glinter is the majority owner of Wilkins Radio along with a lawyer in South Carolina.

The mysterious 530-540 I've been tracking wasn't on the air today. Don't know what that means. I did notice that there are about 6 real estate offices within 1 mile of the place I've been hearing it, so I'm leaning toward the idea that someone had a "talking house" on rebroadcasting a sirius, xm, or music choice station.

Bob Wilkins is the owner of Wilkins radio, as far as I know. However, Wilkins Radio is based in Spartanburg (Upstate/Western) South Carolina
http://www.wilkinsradio.com

A Talking House on 530 or 540 would literally go about 20 feet on a home radio and maybe 40 feet on a car radio.

 

[w9wi]

I don't mean to disagree, Doug.. but I was given information by someone whos been in the business almost 45 years.

Maybe I used the wrong terminology..... but 540 is going to be directly? Well, when you test the array, you cant run anything thru it.. I think.

Still, I'm going to bet $20 this isnt WASG testing on 540.

Money is scarce enough that I'm not willing to bet on this one but you're probably right!

I've never done a conductivity test (Charles, have you?) but would think it wouldn't much matter what program material we run.

They wouldn't be testing the actual antenna they plan to use (unless maybe by chance), what they're trying to do is determine how much power they can run (and what directional pattern, if they plan to be directional) without interfering with anyone else. That's dependent on the characteristics of the ground around the antenna, and the most accurate way to know those characteristics is to just put something on the air & measure it.

Testing the actual antenna (/array) they intend to use would be something else, and would require a construction permit.

 

[radioguybroadcasting]

I don't mean to disagree, Doug.. but I was given information by someone whos been in the business almost 45 years.

Maybe I used the wrong terminology..... but 540 is going to be directly? Well, when you test the array, you cant run anything thru it.. I think.

Still, I'm going to bet $20 this isnt WASG testing on 540.

Money is scarce enough that I'm not willing to bet on this one but you're probably right!

I've never done a conductivity test (Charles, have you?) but would think it wouldn't much matter what program material we run.

They wouldn't be testing the actual antenna they plan to use (unless maybe by chance), what they're trying to do is determine how much power they can run (and what directional pattern, if they plan to be directional) without interfering with anyone else. That's dependent on the characteristics of the ground around the antenna, and the most accurate way to know those characteristics is to just put something on the air & measure it.

Testing the actual antenna (/array) they intend to use would be something else, and would require a construction permit.

And I could be wrong, I am far from an engineer.... I'm a on air jock, with a fascination and appreciation for RF and engineering stuff.

 

[Poledo]

Bob Wilkins is the owner of Wilkins radio, as far as I know. However, Wilkins Radio is based in Spartanburg (Upstate/Western) South Carolina
http://www.wilkinsradio.com

I looked at the latest applications on fcc.org and both WVTJ and WASG have the same lawyer listed on them. That's the only connection I noticed. Does anyone know anything about Glinter? If 95.7 is for sale will that leave WASG as his only property? Do you think he'll transfer it to Wilkins once the new facility is ready (the application says WASG will be diplexed with Wilkins owned WIJD in Mobile)? I wonder if Glinter made any money on this deal. He bought up 4 AMs in Pensacola back when the only AM doing any business was WCOA and now it looks like he's liquidated. Did he do it in the name of the lord or did he laugh all the way to the bank?

A Talking House on 530 or 540 would literally go about 20 feet on a home radio and maybe 40 feet on a car radio.

One of the real estate offices is directly across Hwy 98 (a 4 lane street), that's less than 200 feet. Possible? Does a talking house on 540 have a shorter range than one on 1690?

 

[radioguybroadcasting]

Bob Wilkins is the owner of Wilkins radio, as far as I know. However, Wilkins Radio is based in Spartanburg (Upstate/Western) South Carolina
http://www.wilkinsradio.com

I looked at the latest applications on fcc.org and both WVTJ and WASG have the same lawyer listed on them. That's the only connection I noticed. Does anyone know anything about Glinter? If 95.7 is for sale will that leave WASG as his only property? Do you think he'll transfer it to Wilkins once the new facility is ready (the application says WASG will be diplexed with Wilkins owned WIJD in Mobile)? I wonder if Glinter made any money on this deal. He bought up 4 AMs in Pensacola back when the only AM doing any business was WCOA and now it looks like he's liquidated. Did he do it in the name of the lord or did he laugh all the way to the bank?

A Talking House on 530 or 540 would literally go about 20 feet on a home radio and maybe 40 feet on a car radio.

One of the real estate offices is directly across Hwy 98 (a 4 lane street), that's less than 200 feet. Possible? Does a talking house on 540 have a shorter range than one on 1690?

I doubt Wilkins wants or needs a 3rd AM in Pensacola.

It';s not unusual for two companies to use the same lawyers.. it happens all the time.

The higher the frequency, in the 1600s, the shorter the antenna you need.. but the more power you need to get out as a TALL tower with less power in the 500s and 600s

Next time you're across the street from the real estate office, i would tune across the AM band and see if they have a talking house.. it's MOST likely going to be in the 1500s or 1600s, and it'll be easy to spot with the bad, tinny audio.

I have a Talking house myself... and one night, tested it on 530.. i lost it COMPLETELY at barely 30 feet. I tuned it to 1610 and it was strong still at 100 feet.

 

[Poledo]

I doubt Wilkins wants or needs a 3rd AM in Pensacola.

One of us read this wrong. Wilkins apparently owns two stations in Pensacola, WVTJ and WNVY. Wilkins owns one in Mobile, WIJD. The new location for WASG would be on the WIJD tower in Mobile, so Wilkins could be acquiring a second station in Mobile... or not. That leaves Glinter with only one station in Pensacola, WGCX, which you said was for sale. Just think, 2 years ago Glinter had 5 Pensacola stations.
It appears Glinter still owns the dark TV translator W39BP licensed to Pensacola.

 

[MN Maniac]

I have a Talking house myself... and one night, tested it on 530.. i lost it COMPLETELY at barely 30 feet. I tuned it to 1610 and it was strong still at 100 feet.

What do those things use for an antenna? The line cord? I'm guessing they work better on the high frequencies because the antenna is WAY too short for the wavelength.

I learned this when I was 8 years old and starting to mess around with phono oscillators, Radio Shack "AM Broadcaster Kits", etc.

 

[radioguybroadcasting]

I doubt Wilkins wants or needs a 3rd AM in Pensacola.

One of us read this wrong. Wilkins apparently owns two stations in Pensacola, WVTJ and WNVY. Wilkins owns one in Mobile, WIJD. The new location for WASG would be on the WIJD tower in Mobile, so Wilkins could be acquiring a second station in Mobile... or not. That leaves Glinter with only one station in Pensacola, WGCX, which you said was for sale. Just think, 2 years ago Glinter had 5 Pensacola stations.
It appears Glinter still owns the dark TV translator W39BP licensed to Pensacola.

Glinter could be colocating on the WIJD tower because he has a working relationship with Wilkins Radio and it's easier to unipole something on a tower you have easy access to then to talk to a stranger.

WAZSG on a tower for 1270? Thats going to be SHORT for 540/550!

 

[Poledo]

Glinter could be colocating on the WIJD tower because he has a working relationship with Wilkins Radio and it's easier to unipole something on a tower you have easy access to then to talk to a stranger.

Good point, but it still looks like he might be in the process of liquidating everything. In the new AM station filing window a few years ago he filed for several new stations. Anyone know if he won any of them?

WASG on a tower for 1270? Thats going to be SHORT for 540/550!

I don't want to go and re-read the FCC applications, but I believe it was mentioned that the tower was to short and the ground radials were too short but they would be doing something to compensate and asked for a waiver citing the high price of a plot of land large enough for WASG in the area.

 

[radioguybroadcasting]

I have a Talking house myself... and one night, tested it on 530.. i lost it COMPLETELY at barely 30 feet. I tuned it to 1610 and it was strong still at 100 feet.

What do those things use for an antenna? The line cord? I'm guessing they work better on the high frequencies because the antenna is WAY too short for the wavelength.

I learned this when I was 8 years old and starting to mess around with phono oscillators, Radio Shack "AM Broadcaster Kits", etc.

A 3 meter wire antenna attached to the back of the unit.

Want one? I got one to sell

 

[radioguybroadcasting]

Glinter could be colocating on the WIJD tower because he has a working relationship with Wilkins Radio and it's easier to unipole something on a tower you have easy access to then to talk to a stranger.

Good point, but it still looks like he might be in the process of liquidating everything. In the new AM station filing window a few years ago he filed for several new stations. Anyone know if he won any of them?

WASG on a tower for 1270? Thats going to be SHORT for 540/550!

I don't want to go and re-read the FCC applications, but I believe it was mentioned that the tower was to short and the ground radials were too short but they would be doing something to compensate and asked for a waiver citing the high price of a plot of land large enough for WASG in the area.

I think he's also trying to cut costs.... putting a unipole on an already exsisting tower and the work associated with it is alot cheaper then building a real tower, but not quite as efficent.

I don't think he's liquidating.. he owns an AM in the Charlotte, NC Metro and half of an AM Construction Permit in Las Vegas.

 

[Poledo]

This is probably the insomnia typing, but what would it have taken for him to disassemble the old WASG 550 in Cantonment and rebuild it in Mobile? Wasn't WASG 550 in Cantonment a multi-tower array? If it was, what good is it to anyone now without 550? Scrap metal? A new AM in the works?

 

[MN Maniac]

I have a Talking house myself... and one night, tested it on 530.. i lost it COMPLETELY at barely 30 feet. I tuned it to 1610 and it was strong still at 100 feet.

What do those things use for an antenna? The line cord? I'm guessing they work better on the high frequencies because the antenna is WAY too short for the wavelength.

I learned this when I was 8 years old and starting to mess around with phono oscillators, Radio Shack "AM Broadcaster Kits", etc.

A 3 meter wire antenna attached to the back of the unit.

Want one? I got one to sell

That's what came with the RS AM Broadcaster Kit: a 3m piece of green wire for an antenna. Range was about 30 feet.

Imagine my excitement the day I realized that if I attach the end of that green wire to the finger stop on the telephone, the range increased to MUCH more than 30 feet!

 

[Nate Wesley]

I had to chime in when posts tilted toward speculation about WASG 550, which might be the most wasted license on the Gulf Coast. Sure, it's AM Radio, but you'd think someone would have been able to park this station in Mobile or Baldwin County, AL and make some local money doing something useful with it.

The Pensacola area didn't really need it IMO, but my take could be jaded on its redundant use as the area's 196th religious outlet. I'd bet the operators of talk radio WNSI 105.9 (WASG's FM compliment in another life IIRC) would love to have this station parked somewhere near between Daphne and Robertsdale instead of the WNSI 1000 daytimer.

 

[radiosanchez]

Gang:

Surprised nobody figured it out themselves.....

It's Radio Enciclopedia out of Cuba. That's what I get on 530 here in South Florida....Format is as you describe it, B/EZ mixed with Spanish 'anecdotes'. Yes, of course, a heavy dose of instrumental covers of hits.

 

[Poledo]

It's Radio Enciclopedia out of Cuba. That's what I get on 530 here in South Florida....Format is as you describe it, B/EZ mixed with Spanish 'anecdotes'. Yes, of course, a heavy dose of instrumental covers of hits.

Can you listen to that station for 90 minutes without hearing one word of spanish? I was paying close attention for Spanish thinking that it was a rare daytime catch of the Turks and Caicos station with a new non-religious format.
I've quit listening for the station since Monday. The folks in the office think I'm crazy for listening to that stuff.

If I ever pick this up again I'll post it to the engineering board asking what could be broadcasting this type of music that one radio seems to be picking up at one location.

As for WASG (550 the old 10kw signal), the religious format they ran while targeting Pensacola was so hard to listen to that I don't know how far the signal went. I do remember it came in like a local (daytime) in Destin and Defuniak Springs. I would assume that it had a very strong signal on the eastern shore of Mobile bay if not in Mobile proper.
No one can argue that 5kw on 540 from a site in Prichard has to be worth at least twice what 10kw on 550 was worth from a site in Cantonment, so depending on the cost of the move, Glinter is a smart man for making this move... assuming he realizes his gain by selling to the highest bidder, religious or secular.

 

[TerryKay]

radiosanchez is correct. It's Radio Encilopedia on 530. It's local at my location in Clearwater all day. The format is always a female canned announcer sporadically between mostly Cuban orchestra interpretations of songs. ID's always at the top of the hour as "Transmite CMBQ, Radio Enciclopedia. Desde la Habana, Cuba" over an instrumental music bed theme.

Radio Vision Cristiana from the Turks & Caicos Islands on 530 remains inactive due to damage from Hurricane Ike in early September. And they are Spanish Christian format preaching when active.

 

[work]

Sory, but there is no 540 in Tampa. Try WFLF, 540, licensedto Pine Hills (Orlando market), simulatsing Tampa's WFLA/970.