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StarGuide receiver question
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> Does one need a separate card for every satellite (ie ABC),
> every transponder, or every channel?
>
Usually you need a sepearte receiver for each service you subscribe too...
For instance, if you run Rush Limbuagh, You would need a receiver from Premere Radio Networks addressed for that, but if you ran ABC's Sean Hanity, you would need a seperate starguide receiver authorized for that... same if you ran a 24/7 Music Format, you would need a sepeate receiver for that.
I know the Premere Receivers MUST remain on the Assigned Channel for the show you are carrying or they will de-auth your receiver.
ABC and WW1 and Clear Channel Satellite plus Salem Starguide feeds are on the same bird but using different specturm I think.
You need a sepeate receiver for each service you choose to carry. You would want to contact the specific Syndicated show or Network and they can provide you more details on what is needed to carry their programming.
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Today's Best Music
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> every transponder, or every channel?
>
Usually you need a sepearte receiver for each service you subscribe too...
For instance, if you run Rush Limbuagh, You would need a receiver from Premere Radio Networks addressed for that, but if you ran ABC's Sean Hanity, you would need a seperate starguide receiver authorized for that... same if you ran a 24/7 Music Format, you would need a sepeate receiver for that.
I know the Premere Receivers MUST remain on the Assigned Channel for the show you are carrying or they will de-auth your receiver.
ABC and WW1 and Clear Channel Satellite plus Salem Starguide feeds are on the same bird but using different specturm I think.
You need a sepeate receiver for each service you choose to carry. You would want to contact the specific Syndicated show or Network and they can provide you more details on what is needed to carry their programming.
<P ID="signature">______________
Lenks
Program Director/Music Director
X Music Online
The X
Today's Best Music
http://www.xmusiconline.com/</P>
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SamBuca
Guest
> Does one need a separate card for every satellite (ie ABC),
> every transponder, or every channel?
I just ran into this issue. You need separate receivers for each carrier.
Now the fun begins......let's see how many times we can split the coax before the S/N ratio is too bad.<P ID="signature">______________
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> every transponder, or every channel?
I just ran into this issue. You need separate receivers for each carrier.
Now the fun begins......let's see how many times we can split the coax before the S/N ratio is too bad.<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
Sam:
Checked and WHYL and it looked pretty good; nice to see some good shows WHP can't take on the air. Love Leykis, but what about in a few months with ET sunset?
Checked and WHYL and it looked pretty good; nice to see some good shows WHP can't take on the air. Love Leykis, but what about in a few months with ET sunset?
> > Does one need a separate card for every satellite (ie
> ABC),
> > every transponder, or every channel?
> >
>
> Usually you need a sepearte receiver for each service you
> subscribe too...
>
> For instance, if you run Rush Limbuagh, You would need a
> receiver from Premere Radio Networks addressed for that, but
> if you ran ABC's Sean Hanity, you would need a seperate
> starguide receiver authorized for that... same if you ran a
> 24/7 Music Format, you would need a sepeate receiver for
> that.
>
> I know the Premere Receivers MUST remain on the Assigned
> Channel for the show you are carrying or they will de-auth
> your receiver.
>
> ABC and WW1 and Clear Channel Satellite plus Salem Starguide
> feeds are on the same bird but using different specturm I
> think.
>
> You need a sepeate receiver for each service you choose to
> carry. You would want to contact the specific Syndicated
> show or Network and they can provide you more details on
> what is needed to carry their programming.
>
I have seen a Starguide III work quite well switching between 4 differrent carriers, WW1, NSN, ABC, and Jones. I have tried this with a couple other Starguids with a varying degreee of success. Occasionally some of my authorized channels would mute and need a "hit" from the provider.
> ABC),
> > every transponder, or every channel?
> >
>
> Usually you need a sepearte receiver for each service you
> subscribe too...
>
> For instance, if you run Rush Limbuagh, You would need a
> receiver from Premere Radio Networks addressed for that, but
> if you ran ABC's Sean Hanity, you would need a seperate
> starguide receiver authorized for that... same if you ran a
> 24/7 Music Format, you would need a sepeate receiver for
> that.
>
> I know the Premere Receivers MUST remain on the Assigned
> Channel for the show you are carrying or they will de-auth
> your receiver.
>
> ABC and WW1 and Clear Channel Satellite plus Salem Starguide
> feeds are on the same bird but using different specturm I
> think.
>
> You need a sepeate receiver for each service you choose to
> carry. You would want to contact the specific Syndicated
> show or Network and they can provide you more details on
> what is needed to carry their programming.
>
I have seen a Starguide III work quite well switching between 4 differrent carriers, WW1, NSN, ABC, and Jones. I have tried this with a couple other Starguids with a varying degreee of success. Occasionally some of my authorized channels would mute and need a "hit" from the provider.
K
kilowatt
Guest
Also note: an inexpensive non amplified splitter (with DC fed from one of the receivers but not all of them thanks) will allow up to 8 receivers to be fed if you don't have a great deal of cable and you use rg6.
I am wondering about s/n comments. If the feed is digital the "lock" won't occur if the signal is weak. All the time I hear chirps ons tations that have loose cables, cheap coaxial cable, etc. (Happens on all services split from the one dish).
> > > Does one need a separate card for every satellite (ie
> > ABC),
> > > every transponder, or every channel?
> > >
> >
> > Usually you need a sepearte receiver for each service you
> > subscribe too...
> >
> > For instance, if you run Rush Limbuagh, You would need a
> > receiver from Premere Radio Networks addressed for that,
> but
> > if you ran ABC's Sean Hanity, you would need a seperate
> > starguide receiver authorized for that... same if you ran
> a
> > 24/7 Music Format, you would need a sepeate receiver for
> > that.
> >
> > I know the Premere Receivers MUST remain on the Assigned
> > Channel for the show you are carrying or they will de-auth
>
> > your receiver.
> >
> > ABC and WW1 and Clear Channel Satellite plus Salem
> Starguide
> > feeds are on the same bird but using different specturm I
> > think.
> >
> > You need a sepeate receiver for each service you choose to
>
> > carry. You would want to contact the specific Syndicated
> > show or Network and they can provide you more details on
> > what is needed to carry their programming.
> >
>
> I have seen a Starguide III work quite well switching
> between 4 differrent carriers, WW1, NSN, ABC, and Jones. I
> have tried this with a couple other Starguids with a varying
> degreee of success. Occasionally some of my authorized
> channels would mute and need a "hit" from the provider.
>
I am wondering about s/n comments. If the feed is digital the "lock" won't occur if the signal is weak. All the time I hear chirps ons tations that have loose cables, cheap coaxial cable, etc. (Happens on all services split from the one dish).
> > > Does one need a separate card for every satellite (ie
> > ABC),
> > > every transponder, or every channel?
> > >
> >
> > Usually you need a sepearte receiver for each service you
> > subscribe too...
> >
> > For instance, if you run Rush Limbuagh, You would need a
> > receiver from Premere Radio Networks addressed for that,
> but
> > if you ran ABC's Sean Hanity, you would need a seperate
> > starguide receiver authorized for that... same if you ran
> a
> > 24/7 Music Format, you would need a sepeate receiver for
> > that.
> >
> > I know the Premere Receivers MUST remain on the Assigned
> > Channel for the show you are carrying or they will de-auth
>
> > your receiver.
> >
> > ABC and WW1 and Clear Channel Satellite plus Salem
> Starguide
> > feeds are on the same bird but using different specturm I
> > think.
> >
> > You need a sepeate receiver for each service you choose to
>
> > carry. You would want to contact the specific Syndicated
> > show or Network and they can provide you more details on
> > what is needed to carry their programming.
> >
>
> I have seen a Starguide III work quite well switching
> between 4 differrent carriers, WW1, NSN, ABC, and Jones. I
> have tried this with a couple other Starguids with a varying
> degreee of success. Occasionally some of my authorized
> channels would mute and need a "hit" from the provider.
>
S
SamBuca
Guest
> Checked and WHYL and it looked pretty good; nice to see some
> good shows WHP can't take on the air. Love Leykis, but what
> about in a few months with ET sunset?
E(ø,θ)<sub>std</sub> = 1.05 * sqrt([E(ø,θ<sub>th</sub>]<sup>2</sup> + Q<sup>2</sup>)
No interference = no complaints. Power it up, baby.
j/k
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> good shows WHP can't take on the air. Love Leykis, but what
> about in a few months with ET sunset?
E(ø,θ)<sub>std</sub> = 1.05 * sqrt([E(ø,θ<sub>th</sub>]<sup>2</sup> + Q<sup>2</sup>)
No interference = no complaints. Power it up, baby.
j/k
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S
SamBuca
Guest
> I have seen a Starguide III work quite well switching
> between 4 differrent carriers, WW1, NSN, ABC, and Jones. I
> have tried this with a couple other Starguids with a varying
> degreee of success. Occasionally some of my authorized
> channels would mute and need a "hit" from the provider.
The point in having them on different units and all active at the same time is that the carriers send down metadata and such that the receivers need to see. If you get your spots via EDAS then you definitely need it constantly listening.<P ID="signature">______________
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> between 4 differrent carriers, WW1, NSN, ABC, and Jones. I
> have tried this with a couple other Starguids with a varying
> degreee of success. Occasionally some of my authorized
> channels would mute and need a "hit" from the provider.
The point in having them on different units and all active at the same time is that the carriers send down metadata and such that the receivers need to see. If you get your spots via EDAS then you definitely need it constantly listening.<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
K
KT
Guest
We had to buy our own receiver for one program. Since we owned it we were able to get it authorized by other networks and use one of the Broadcast Tools satellite contollers to change transponders. It worked most of the time, but it wasn't very long before I was allowed to get another receiver because of the occassional problem.
It can be done, but it's not worth the headache.
KT
It can be done, but it's not worth the headache.
KT
R
RadioDoc
Guest
> We had to buy our own receiver for one program. Since we
> owned it we were able to get it authorized by other networks
> and use one of the Broadcast Tools satellite contollers to
> change transponders. It worked most of the time, but it
> wasn't very long before I was allowed to get another
> receiver because of the occassional problem.
>
> It can be done, but it's not worth the headache.
>
> KT
>
Took the words right out of my mouth!
Basically, 1 receiver per provider. Several cards for audio per receiver, all of which can be changed to different "channels" either from the front panel or by serial connection.
One station I have owns their own receivers, and just switches around to the different channels via Broadcast tools controller. Another station has dedicated cards in each Starguide for each service (IE 1st Starguide has Fox Sports on Port A and Rome on Port B, while 2nd Starguide has one ABC channel on Port A, and a second on B).
I haven't had problems with either setup. In fact several smaller stations go the "Broadcast Tools" route with no problems.<P ID="signature">______________
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> owned it we were able to get it authorized by other networks
> and use one of the Broadcast Tools satellite contollers to
> change transponders. It worked most of the time, but it
> wasn't very long before I was allowed to get another
> receiver because of the occassional problem.
>
> It can be done, but it's not worth the headache.
>
> KT
>
Took the words right out of my mouth!
Basically, 1 receiver per provider. Several cards for audio per receiver, all of which can be changed to different "channels" either from the front panel or by serial connection.
One station I have owns their own receivers, and just switches around to the different channels via Broadcast tools controller. Another station has dedicated cards in each Starguide for each service (IE 1st Starguide has Fox Sports on Port A and Rome on Port B, while 2nd Starguide has one ABC channel on Port A, and a second on B).
I haven't had problems with either setup. In fact several smaller stations go the "Broadcast Tools" route with no problems.<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
>
> I know the Premere Receivers MUST remain on the Assigned
> Channel for the show you are carrying or they will de-auth
> your receiver.
>
I've never seen a Premiere receiver de-authorize if you change channels, but it will do odd things unless it sees Premiere 1 on card A and Premiere 2 on card B.
> I know the Premere Receivers MUST remain on the Assigned
> Channel for the show you are carrying or they will de-auth
> your receiver.
>
I've never seen a Premiere receiver de-authorize if you change channels, but it will do odd things unless it sees Premiere 1 on card A and Premiere 2 on card B.
> I've never seen a Premiere receiver de-authorize if you
> change channels, but it will do odd things unless it sees
> Premiere 1 on card A and Premiere 2 on card B.
>
I remeber reading on the Premere Engineering Site that their receivers MUST be tuned to the Premere Carrier or they could deauth. Ofcourse, if you "OWNED" the receiever and did not obtain it from the network, I guess you get it authorized or put it on any channel that would give you authorzation.
<P ID="signature">______________
Lenks
Program Director/Music Director
X Music Online
The X
Today's Best Music
http://www.xmusiconline.com/</P>
> change channels, but it will do odd things unless it sees
> Premiere 1 on card A and Premiere 2 on card B.
>
I remeber reading on the Premere Engineering Site that their receivers MUST be tuned to the Premere Carrier or they could deauth. Ofcourse, if you "OWNED" the receiever and did not obtain it from the network, I guess you get it authorized or put it on any channel that would give you authorzation.
<P ID="signature">______________
Lenks
Program Director/Music Director
X Music Online
The X
Today's Best Music
http://www.xmusiconline.com/</P>
I built a separate power supply for the LNB. Saves a lot of grief, just use an 18 volt three pin regulator. Mine has a built in splitter to feed 2 receivers. Don't forget the DC blocker to keep the DC out of the receiver feeds. Much better than having one receiver supply the LNB power for the system since that's the one that will fail.
Still have one receiver daisy-chained over to another (through a splitter), but that's because there is a double wall between the receivers and the LNB supply. Have to widen the hole to get a second cable through.
Still have one receiver daisy-chained over to another (through a splitter), but that's because there is a double wall between the receivers and the LNB supply. Have to widen the hole to get a second cable through.
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