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State of Tulsa Radio....

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Glenn Quagmire

....by the activity and nostalgia driven posts on this board, I would say the state is like that of a wake :-(

Actually I would say the state of Tulsa radio sounds something like this 010101010101010 (the code of computers).

All lame jokes aside there is nothing going on in this city media wise with a few exceptions.

KFAQ: Added a M-F 12-1 local talk show and expanded Polo's program to 4-6p. I feel like the only people that listen to KFAQ are Beckalites and the malcontents always pissed off at city hall. Thoughts?

KRMG: Nothing new here either. JK seems to have gotten out of his Obama bashing rut. Kudos....

KTBZ: What are this station's ratings these days? CP and JP doing afternoon's 2-6p. Enjoy the show but I wonder how many people are listening to this station.

KZLI: AM 1570, doing itself proud. Nice assortment of talk. Doing the best it can with what it has to work with.

On the FM side.... anything new? No morning show changes to speak of.

Are any stations actually doing any live programming outside of mornings? Something tells me everything I hear is voice-tracked.

Personally I feel like radio and television have jumped the shark as "mediums." By that I mean no one's tuning in either one to get something they can't live without. Music, talk, information, etc...

Nothing put out by any local over-the-air station is generating water cooler talk these days, other than the periodic sporting event, scandal du jour, or politics. I also wonder if I'm the only one noticing this.
 
Commerical radio these days is as stale as last month's milk. Sadly nothing is being done to correct that. The idiots that run radio companies know something is wrong but refuse to invest in the fix. Keep it up boys. The next generation's 25-54 haven't ever bothered with your stale product. Ever wonder why? Cheap stale crappy programming... That's why. How about stepping up to the plate for a few years and put out some real programming at a slight loss f profit for even a bigger long term profit when your product becomes relevent again?
 
Oh yeah... I failed to say okc is just as bad just in case anyone thought it was just a Tulsa slam. In fact, about the only good radio out there is either small market, sports, or krmg. That's about it these days.
 
I couldn't agree more.

My post wasn't designed to knock Tulsa and the hard working men and women at some of these stations. It's just there's nothing to talk about b/c the whole enchilada is stale. The programming, the music, the talk, everything.... boring and predictable.

I'll listen to KJSR Star 103.3 every now and then and I've caught the same song at the same time countless times. Why am I hearing the same Eagles/Wings/Doobie Brothers song at approximately the same time on two occassions when I rarely listen?

It's that kind of bland predictablility that makes me drive in silence, listen only to live events like sports, or tune out completely and listen to SiriusXM.

I tune to 104.5 in Tulsa and 65% of the playlist are songs that were popular during Clinton's first term. The other 30% were popular during Clinton's second.

If I'm 18-24 years old I'm probably not wanting to hear Heart Shaped Box for the 90,343,341st time. Where is the new music? Wouldn't I choose my IPOD over the radio? If I'm choosing the IPOD over the radio how are you going to count on me as a listener in 10 years?
 
Exactly! Sadly, the radio people that know what's right and wrong in programming are being remote-controlled by someone elsewhere, etc. People like Mel Myers are 'on the beach' instead of doing the great radio they know how to execute. If the industry doesn't fix their stinky product soon there will be no going back to fix it in the future. They will self-fufill the predictions of the failure of terrestrial radio. What's coming out of the two speakers these days is horribly broken. Hello corporate operators. How about doing something about it instead of bad business as usual?
 
Glenn Quagmire said:
KTBZ: What are this station's ratings these days? CP and JP doing afternoon's 2-6p. Enjoy the show but I wonder how many people are listening to this station.

KZLI: AM 1570, doing itself proud. Nice assortment of talk. Doing the best it can with what it has to work with.

On the FM side.... anything new? No morning show changes to speak of.

Are any stations actually doing any live programming outside of mornings? Something tells me everything I hear is voice-tracked.
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I don't listen to KTBZ because it isn't sports talk that engages the listener. The hosts just basically agree with everything the callers say. At least JP appears to have a differing opinion from time to time. I'm sure CP is a great guy, but I tired of him long ago. How he wound up with a weekend gig on Fox Sports Radio, I'll never know.

KYAL has a live local morning and midday show. It isn't mind-blowing radio, but it is a change from the norm when it comes to sports radio.

KZLI seems to me to be more conservative talk, though not as abrasive as KFAQ and KRMG.
 
Best station in Tulsa is KRVT/1270, keeping the AM band worth listening to. Nice to see the streaming option so I can listen in Oklahoma City. Most radio nationwide sucks...I often can go without listening to local radio of any type for days and weeks at a time. There are good stations nationally....KPIG, KZOZ, KYAF, KRKE, on both AM and FM, but none under the wings of the corporate giants. Good work 1270!
 
mrcnokc said:
Best station in Tulsa is KRVT/1270, keeping the AM band worth listening to. Nice to see the streaming option so I can listen in Oklahoma City. Most radio nationwide sucks...I often can go without listening to local radio of any type for days and weeks at a time. There are good stations nationally....KPIG, KZOZ, KYAF, KRKE, on both AM and FM, but none under the wings of the corporate giants. Good work 1270!
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I like KRVT, I just don't know if I would call it the best station in town (though it may be the most unique). The music is good (except when they go with the satellite programming on the weekend). Imus is a very odd morning programming choice for the station, seems he would be a better fit on KZLI.

I know Stan visits this board, and I hope he doesn't take these critiques as being negatively intended, they're just the thoughts of one humble man. :)
 
Hey 'sphere, no offense taken. (But KRVT is the best station in town--check is in the mail).

Odd programming choices make KRVT what it is. We started Imus on KZLI, but 1570 is so high on the AM band that only dogs could hear it at times...plus it was interfering with police calls in Catoosa.

Seriously, I thought Imus deserved a better early morning signal than KZLI. Putting the I-man on KRVT gives Tulsan's something else to listen to at 5 am.
 
I've wondered myself why there's not been anything to talk about on these boards lately, & my answer is surprisingly un-cynical:

I think we are seeing small, incremental, evolutionary improvements to a number of stations in the Tulsa market. (I can't speak for OKC.)

KWGS's addition of John Durkee is letting 89.5 do more & more local news, & features of local historical interest. I hear rumor of a special on KAKC may not be too far away, & what I'm sure will be an exceptional look back at the Oklahoma City bombing will air soon & be posted on their website.

92.1 is live more than I ever thought they might be, & on a personal note as musical styles are (finally) changing, it's becoming more listenable to my admittedly out-of-the-target-demo ears.

KBEZ has had to cut staff, but their music continues to evolve, slowly turning them into a genuine AC.

94.1 still has the best-sounding audio in town; even their repeater at 94.5 sounds great!

99.5 hasn't, at least yet, started simulcasting 1170... & to me that's a good thing.

KXOJ has brought back The Kros on 100.3. It's a terrible signal, but I'm glad the option is there.

I may have plenty of mean things to say about KRMG's programing structure, but it's still nice when severe weather hits to be able to get them on 102.3.

K-Hits seems to really be battling with 92.1, & that kind of competition is ALWAYS good. It's great to see strong local night shows.

KCFO's got a heck of a lineup these days, moving away from the preachers & teachers & airing more financial gurus, medical advice, & relationship counselors.

1050's got a rough sound, but they still play some songs I'm not hearing anywhere else.

1170 has been adding more local programming, as mentioned above, that's always good!

1270 continues their thing, providing a completely unique presentation for Tulsa and maybe for the state.

1340 has expanded their coverage a bit through simulcasting on 1120.

KZLI has shocked me by getting a bit of a foothold in the market, despite being the 3rd (4th?) talk station in the market & a daytimer.

Is Tulsa radio nirvana? Hardly. Is it getting better? I'd say it's taking baby steps.
 
KWGS's addition of John Durkee is letting 89.5 do more & more local news, & features of local historical interest. I hear rumor of a special on KAKC may not be too far away, & what I'm sure will be an exceptional look back at the Oklahoma City bombing will air soon & be posted on their website.
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Thank you Mr. Nightaire:

We are having fun here at the Big 89 (point-5). We have a half hour special on the 15th Anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing... including retrospectives from Neal Kennedy (then with KVOO) and Marshall Stewart (then at KRMG). It airs Monday morning at 11.

Our Ops Manager, Steve Clem, is working on a documentary on KAKC's glory days and what that station meant to Tulsa and baby boomers. It will air this summer. I am amazed at the legends I have seen come thru the door.... Scooter, Dick Schmitz, Clayton Vaughn, even McCarthy. He has done interviews (most on ISDN) with Jim Peters, Beau Weaver, Robert W. Walker, Harry Wilson, Lee Bayley.. and the guy who started in all in Tulsa (at KTUL Radio) Don Wallace. It will be awesome. There is a facebook page as well.
 
There's only one thing to say about the KGWS boys.... Class act! They are a gem in the pub radio genre that could hold their own very nicely in a top 5 market. With the addition of Durkee, they have taken it serveral rachets up from their really great standards they already had. It's nice to see a U and it's supporters that care as much as TU does about their station. It truely shows on the air.

On the subject of 94.1, they do have an awsome SOUND. Their engineering and programming guys help spent a great deal of time and some bucks getting things RIGHT with that station. I'll be sure to pass on the post to one of the folks involved so they can see that there are people in the industry too that have taken notice of real fm audio quality. It's nice to have decent sound on the dial. With that being said, I truely think Tulsa has better sonic fidelity on their fm dial than okc. There seems to be a lot less clipping grunge, overtly bad agc, and strainiant bass distortion in T town than okc, in general.
 
hey Durk,

Looking forward to the KAKC special. I'm not sure many people today remember what a truly special station KAKC was. I think it was the only non-RKO station to be consulted by Drake. Big market sound from T-town.

Stan
 
Stan, KAKC was the first non-westcoast station actually consulted by Drake, as opposed to all the folks from all over the map who'd hole-up in an L-A hotel, run tape for a few days, then go home and de-construct what they thought they had heard -- often, with amazingly off-the-mark results. But Drake-Chenault also had non-RKO KGB/San Diego and Chenault-owned KYNO/Fresno by the time we joined their ranks. A few months later, they added WUBE/Cincinnati.
 
stacker said:
Hey 'sphere, no offense taken. (But KRVT is the best station in town--check is in the mail).

Odd programming choices make KRVT what it is. We started Imus on KZLI, but 1570 is so high on the AM band that only dogs could hear it at times...plus it was interfering with police calls in Catoosa.

Seriously, I thought Imus deserved a better early morning signal than KZLI. Putting the I-man on KRVT gives Tulsan's something else to listen to at 5 am.
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You know what would be great...is if KRVT would carry the Dr. Demento Show. Is that guy still around??
 
NightAire said:
You BET he is!

http://www.drdemento.com/showinterest/

(I'd listen!)
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I would to (online).. It's a shame he's only a few stations now. I still have some (bad quality) cassette recordings when he was on Superfox 103 in 1978-9.

BTW how good is KRVT's night signal? Are there any dead spots locally? I find it funny I can pick it up Lawton by the late afternoon-evening unless KFLC 1270 from Fort Worth isn't bleeding in.
 
BTW how good is KRVT's night signal? Are there any dead spots locally? I find it funny I can pick it up Lawton by the late afternoon-evening unless KFLC 1270 from Fort Worth isn't bleeding in.
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It has a few holes, like every directional pattern, but it covers 90% of Tulsa at night. 1 kW into 4 towers produces a big 7.5 kW lobe aimed right at Tulsa. Very little signal goes anywhere else, except for a minor lobe pointing at Broken Arrow. The middle of the main night lobe is pointed at 21st and Lewis, just about midtown.

The day signal is directional (not to protect anyone, but to spread more signal over the market). It's a gentle figure 8, shooting up and down I-44, which explains why you can hear it in Lawton. The folks in Springfield Mo. can hear it also.

Stan
 
Typically good weather coverage this morning on both KFAQ and KRMG. Most refreshing of all, the opportunity to get much less Joe Kelly. Yes, even with impending dangerous weather, still stories from the ego on how it impacted him and his kids. Isn't it always all about him?
 
Okaster, I suspect he is instructed to "relate" to his audience by telling such stories.

Odds are, some focus group told them he needed to "connect" with his audience.

Joe never struck me as an ego-maniac. Perhaps I just wasn't around him enough... but I see him more as a person very good at keeping his job because he follows instructions to the letter.

You'd be amazed what higher-ups will tell you is the "right" thing to do. If you want to stay employed, you do it, no matter how ridiculous you think you sound.
 
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