Besides the fact that they don't have live DJs, I think I really like them. Very good mix of music IMHO. The, "We play what we want" attitude is going to get old, but the music would make me stay.
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Station by station opinions -- Jack-FM
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haphazard
Guest
> Besides the fact that they don't have live DJs, I think I
> really like them. Very good mix of music IMHO. The, "We
> play what we want" attitude is going to get old, but the
> music would make me stay.
>
> What do you think?
>
I'm more of a WKLU fan myself. JACK plays some stuff that's just not my taste ... don't get me wrong ... it's one of the stations I listen to, but it's usually behind WKLU and MAX for me.
I'm a child of the 80's raised on 60's and 70's music and JACK plays blocks of stuff that's too Pop and not enough Rock ...
> really like them. Very good mix of music IMHO. The, "We
> play what we want" attitude is going to get old, but the
> music would make me stay.
>
> What do you think?
>
I'm more of a WKLU fan myself. JACK plays some stuff that's just not my taste ... don't get me wrong ... it's one of the stations I listen to, but it's usually behind WKLU and MAX for me.
I'm a child of the 80's raised on 60's and 70's music and JACK plays blocks of stuff that's too Pop and not enough Rock ...
I
ipodradio
Guest
The music, especially after the first month, has been excellent. The cheesy intros to the commercial breaks and the jingles need to go. However, listening to those is not nearly as painful as listening to other stations (Rad. Now, ZPL) having bad DJs talk to idiots on the phone. If they were smart, they would drive people to the website to let them "select" songs to play and sell the advertisers that way.
they would drive people to the website to let
> them "select" songs to play and sell the advertisers that
> way.
>
ya know what...you might have something here.
Remember The Box? That Music Video Channel....they played the video if you called and voted for it....cost you like 99 cents I think.
How about this....as a more friendly Jack type station........
"We Play Whatever YOU Want from Jack FM dot com....on 104-5 Jack FM"
Log in there are have a huge list of tunes.....compile it daily or something....
and spin em the next day with a cool stager like
"You logged on....so here it is....Jack FM....Playing Whatever YOU Want...."
Don't really need to charge em for the equests....play em...don't play em....Maybe it would give the listener a little more tie in to the station. If you get jocks....do lots of phoner requests....
And if you keep getting requests for something....for god sake get a copy and throw it on....that would be some variety!!!
Thoughts (am I a retard?)
> them "select" songs to play and sell the advertisers that
> way.
>
ya know what...you might have something here.
Remember The Box? That Music Video Channel....they played the video if you called and voted for it....cost you like 99 cents I think.
How about this....as a more friendly Jack type station........
"We Play Whatever YOU Want from Jack FM dot com....on 104-5 Jack FM"
Log in there are have a huge list of tunes.....compile it daily or something....
and spin em the next day with a cool stager like
"You logged on....so here it is....Jack FM....Playing Whatever YOU Want...."
Don't really need to charge em for the equests....play em...don't play em....Maybe it would give the listener a little more tie in to the station. If you get jocks....do lots of phoner requests....
And if you keep getting requests for something....for god sake get a copy and throw it on....that would be some variety!!!
Thoughts (am I a retard?)
> ya know what...you might have something here.
>
> Remember The Box? That Music Video Channel....they played
> the video if you called and voted for it....cost you like 99
> cents I think.
>
> How about this....as a more friendly Jack type
> station........
>
> "We Play Whatever YOU Want from Jack FM dot com....on 104-5
> Jack FM"
>
> Log in there are have a huge list of tunes.....compile it
> daily or something....
>
> and spin em the next day with a cool stager like
>
> "You logged on....so here it is....Jack FM....Playing
> Whatever YOU Want...."
>
> Don't really need to charge em for the equests....play
> em...don't play em....Maybe it would give the listener a
> little more tie in to the station. If you get jocks....do
> lots of phoner requests....
>
> And if you keep getting requests for something....for god
> sake get a copy and throw it on....that would be some
> variety!!!
>
> Thoughts (am I a retard?)
>
I have yet to listen to this Jack since I live in market #3 rather than market #41. Some of these ideas are already used by the Jack clone Nine FM in the Chicago/Dekalb/Rockford IL markets on the trimulcast. If these ideas were used on the Chicago Jack FM, it might work, but since Infinity Broadcasting owns that Jack FM, I don't see that Jack using any of these ideas. Susquehanna better hope that dropping oldies works for Jack works in their favor. It might not work in Inifinity Broadcastings favor as they dropped 2 heritage oldies stations for Jack with no warning, and listeners planning to protest to the advertisers who advertise to Jack. Some advertisers aren't aware that the stations are no longer oldies and might not continue advertising on Jack. Only time will tell. But Jack FM does need to get rid of the "We Play What We Want" line. But I did see that the ratings look good so far for Indy's Jack. I won't know Chicago's Jack ratings wise until the summer P1's come out as the Spring book will contain mostly ratings for the oldies format.
>
> Remember The Box? That Music Video Channel....they played
> the video if you called and voted for it....cost you like 99
> cents I think.
>
> How about this....as a more friendly Jack type
> station........
>
> "We Play Whatever YOU Want from Jack FM dot com....on 104-5
> Jack FM"
>
> Log in there are have a huge list of tunes.....compile it
> daily or something....
>
> and spin em the next day with a cool stager like
>
> "You logged on....so here it is....Jack FM....Playing
> Whatever YOU Want...."
>
> Don't really need to charge em for the equests....play
> em...don't play em....Maybe it would give the listener a
> little more tie in to the station. If you get jocks....do
> lots of phoner requests....
>
> And if you keep getting requests for something....for god
> sake get a copy and throw it on....that would be some
> variety!!!
>
> Thoughts (am I a retard?)
>
I have yet to listen to this Jack since I live in market #3 rather than market #41. Some of these ideas are already used by the Jack clone Nine FM in the Chicago/Dekalb/Rockford IL markets on the trimulcast. If these ideas were used on the Chicago Jack FM, it might work, but since Infinity Broadcasting owns that Jack FM, I don't see that Jack using any of these ideas. Susquehanna better hope that dropping oldies works for Jack works in their favor. It might not work in Inifinity Broadcastings favor as they dropped 2 heritage oldies stations for Jack with no warning, and listeners planning to protest to the advertisers who advertise to Jack. Some advertisers aren't aware that the stations are no longer oldies and might not continue advertising on Jack. Only time will tell. But Jack FM does need to get rid of the "We Play What We Want" line. But I did see that the ratings look good so far for Indy's Jack. I won't know Chicago's Jack ratings wise until the summer P1's come out as the Spring book will contain mostly ratings for the oldies format.
That's their (Jack's) goal, win on Cume, not on TSL. They average holding listeners 4.5 minutes in a quarter hour. Not good for advertising when all most people and advertising sellers know how to read is TSL and AQH. It can be done, it's just the harder path to take. 18 months is their usual "burn" point since nothing new comes down the pike for them, (Jack). But, with Infinity ready to take the helm of the format (9 of the 14 in the US are Infinity owned and they have a head of the format...hmmmm)that may change. Especially with Infinity wanting to go top 20 markets only. A lot of coin there that they don't have access to right now.
> > Besides the fact that they don't have live DJs, I think I
> > really like them. Very good mix of music IMHO. The, "We
> > play what we want" attitude is going to get old, but the
> > music would make me stay.
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
>
> I'm more of a WKLU fan myself. JACK plays some stuff that's
> just not my taste ... don't get me wrong ... it's one of the
> stations I listen to, but it's usually behind WKLU and MAX
> for me.
>
> I'm a child of the 80's raised on 60's and 70's music and
> JACK plays blocks of stuff that's too Pop and not enough
> Rock ...
>
> > Besides the fact that they don't have live DJs, I think I
> > really like them. Very good mix of music IMHO. The, "We
> > play what we want" attitude is going to get old, but the
> > music would make me stay.
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
>
> I'm more of a WKLU fan myself. JACK plays some stuff that's
> just not my taste ... don't get me wrong ... it's one of the
> stations I listen to, but it's usually behind WKLU and MAX
> for me.
>
> I'm a child of the 80's raised on 60's and 70's music and
> JACK plays blocks of stuff that's too Pop and not enough
> Rock ...
>
M
magicmk
Guest
> they would drive people to the website to let
> > them "select" songs to play and sell the advertisers that
> > way.
> >
>
> ya know what...you might have something here.
>
> Remember The Box? That Music Video Channel....they played
> the video if you called and voted for it....cost you like 99
> cents I think.
>
> How about this....as a more friendly Jack type
> station........
>
> "We Play Whatever YOU Want from Jack FM dot com....on 104-5
> Jack FM"
>
> Log in there are have a huge list of tunes.....compile it
> daily or something....
>
> and spin em the next day with a cool stager like
>
> "You logged on....so here it is....Jack FM....Playing
> Whatever YOU Want...."
>
> Don't really need to charge em for the equests....play
> em...don't play em....Maybe it would give the listener a
> little more tie in to the station. If you get jocks....do
> lots of phoner requests....
>
> And if you keep getting requests for something....for god
> sake get a copy and throw it on....that would be some
> variety!!!
>
> Thoughts (am I a retard?)
>
I like it, nice idea... audience interactivity is always a good thing, even if it means resorting to the web to do so. The main problem that I might see happening is that it might disrupt the programming or rotation of music (yes, I do believe Jack actually does have a rotation formula), that would present a possibly difficult challenge for whoever's plugging in the music for the day.
Just wondering, are there any Jack stations in the US that aren't jockless? I listened to Jack (WCBS) in NYC, they were jockless, so is Jack in Chicago (WJMK)... a Jack-variant in Raleigh NC (WRVA The River) is automated as well.
> > them "select" songs to play and sell the advertisers that
> > way.
> >
>
> ya know what...you might have something here.
>
> Remember The Box? That Music Video Channel....they played
> the video if you called and voted for it....cost you like 99
> cents I think.
>
> How about this....as a more friendly Jack type
> station........
>
> "We Play Whatever YOU Want from Jack FM dot com....on 104-5
> Jack FM"
>
> Log in there are have a huge list of tunes.....compile it
> daily or something....
>
> and spin em the next day with a cool stager like
>
> "You logged on....so here it is....Jack FM....Playing
> Whatever YOU Want...."
>
> Don't really need to charge em for the equests....play
> em...don't play em....Maybe it would give the listener a
> little more tie in to the station. If you get jocks....do
> lots of phoner requests....
>
> And if you keep getting requests for something....for god
> sake get a copy and throw it on....that would be some
> variety!!!
>
> Thoughts (am I a retard?)
>
I like it, nice idea... audience interactivity is always a good thing, even if it means resorting to the web to do so. The main problem that I might see happening is that it might disrupt the programming or rotation of music (yes, I do believe Jack actually does have a rotation formula), that would present a possibly difficult challenge for whoever's plugging in the music for the day.
Just wondering, are there any Jack stations in the US that aren't jockless? I listened to Jack (WCBS) in NYC, they were jockless, so is Jack in Chicago (WJMK)... a Jack-variant in Raleigh NC (WRVA The River) is automated as well.
> I like it, nice idea... audience interactivity is always a
> good thing, even if it means resorting to the web to do so.
> The main problem that I might see happening is that it might
> disrupt the programming or rotation of music (yes, I do
> believe Jack actually does have a rotation formula), that
> would present a possibly difficult challenge for whoever's
> plugging in the music for the day.
>
> Just wondering, are there any Jack stations in the US that
> aren't jockless? I listened to Jack (WCBS) in NYC, they
> were jockless, so is Jack in Chicago (WJMK)... a
> Jack-variant in Raleigh NC (WRVA The River) is automated as
> well.
>
The Jack clone in the Chicago/Dekalb/Rockford markets (Nine FM) is automated evenings and overnights, and on weekends now. Only mornings, middays, and afternoons are there airstaff. But when the stations has an airstaff, they take requests, whether by phone or e-mail ([email protected]), they play it, as long as they have the song available. Unlike Jack, which has a playlist of around 1200 songs, mostly 80's songs, Nine FM is at least 3500, and they play new music too from the 60's - 2005 (Yes 2005 because they play new music too), and occasionally play a song from the 50's. Nine FM's e-quest lunch is all requests. Now if only Nine FM would get their website finished, that would be great. They haven't had an official website in a year now. I should mention that the stations has a separate phone number that you record a message to leave feedback, and that might get on the air at a later date if the station likes it. I wouldn't expect any Jack FM to take any of these suggestions.
> good thing, even if it means resorting to the web to do so.
> The main problem that I might see happening is that it might
> disrupt the programming or rotation of music (yes, I do
> believe Jack actually does have a rotation formula), that
> would present a possibly difficult challenge for whoever's
> plugging in the music for the day.
>
> Just wondering, are there any Jack stations in the US that
> aren't jockless? I listened to Jack (WCBS) in NYC, they
> were jockless, so is Jack in Chicago (WJMK)... a
> Jack-variant in Raleigh NC (WRVA The River) is automated as
> well.
>
The Jack clone in the Chicago/Dekalb/Rockford markets (Nine FM) is automated evenings and overnights, and on weekends now. Only mornings, middays, and afternoons are there airstaff. But when the stations has an airstaff, they take requests, whether by phone or e-mail ([email protected]), they play it, as long as they have the song available. Unlike Jack, which has a playlist of around 1200 songs, mostly 80's songs, Nine FM is at least 3500, and they play new music too from the 60's - 2005 (Yes 2005 because they play new music too), and occasionally play a song from the 50's. Nine FM's e-quest lunch is all requests. Now if only Nine FM would get their website finished, that would be great. They haven't had an official website in a year now. I should mention that the stations has a separate phone number that you record a message to leave feedback, and that might get on the air at a later date if the station likes it. I wouldn't expect any Jack FM to take any of these suggestions.
M
magicmk
Guest
> Unlike Jack, which has a playlist of around 1200 songs,
> mostly 80's songs, Nine FM is at least 3500, and they play
> new music too from the 60's - 2005 (Yes 2005 because they
> play new music too), and occasionally play a song from the
> 50's. Nine FM's e-quest lunch is all requests. Now if only
> Nine FM would get their website finished, that would be
> great. They haven't had an official website in a year now.
> I should mention that the stations has a separate phone
> number that you record a message to leave feedback, and that
> might get on the air at a later date if the station likes
> it. I wouldn't expect any Jack FM to take any of these
> suggestions.
>
I'm sure it varies, but I was wondering exactly how broad the scope of music is that Jack includes in its programming. Listening to Jack in NYC (WCBS) on and off over last weekend, I actually began to see a bit of method to the madness... it really seemed me that the playlist largely dug back to about the mid 70's, and then went as recent as mid to late 90's, although about 75% of what I heard was indeed from the 80's, as you pointed out. The progression from song to song to song was surprisingly good. I listened to Nine once or twice shortly after they launched and sounded like a lost and underpaid DJ in a small town bar somewhere, the music was way all over the place. IN all fairness, it's my understanding that they've got the music direction dialed in a little better now, but I think they still rely heavily on audience input for their music selection, emphasizing their self-proclaimed "We Play Anything" motto.
> mostly 80's songs, Nine FM is at least 3500, and they play
> new music too from the 60's - 2005 (Yes 2005 because they
> play new music too), and occasionally play a song from the
> 50's. Nine FM's e-quest lunch is all requests. Now if only
> Nine FM would get their website finished, that would be
> great. They haven't had an official website in a year now.
> I should mention that the stations has a separate phone
> number that you record a message to leave feedback, and that
> might get on the air at a later date if the station likes
> it. I wouldn't expect any Jack FM to take any of these
> suggestions.
>
I'm sure it varies, but I was wondering exactly how broad the scope of music is that Jack includes in its programming. Listening to Jack in NYC (WCBS) on and off over last weekend, I actually began to see a bit of method to the madness... it really seemed me that the playlist largely dug back to about the mid 70's, and then went as recent as mid to late 90's, although about 75% of what I heard was indeed from the 80's, as you pointed out. The progression from song to song to song was surprisingly good. I listened to Nine once or twice shortly after they launched and sounded like a lost and underpaid DJ in a small town bar somewhere, the music was way all over the place. IN all fairness, it's my understanding that they've got the music direction dialed in a little better now, but I think they still rely heavily on audience input for their music selection, emphasizing their self-proclaimed "We Play Anything" motto.
> I'm sure it varies, but I was wondering exactly how broad
> the scope of music is that Jack includes in its programming.
> Listening to Jack in NYC (WCBS) on and off over last
> weekend, I actually began to see a bit of method to the
> madness... it really seemed me that the playlist largely dug
> back to about the mid 70's, and then went as recent as mid
> to late 90's, although about 75% of what I heard was indeed
> from the 80's, as you pointed out. The progression from
> song to song to song was surprisingly good. I listened to
> Nine once or twice shortly after they launched and sounded
> like a lost and underpaid DJ in a small town bar somewhere,
> the music was way all over the place. IN all fairness, it's
> my understanding that they've got the music direction dialed
> in a little better now, but I think they still rely heavily
> on audience input for their music selection, emphasizing
> their self-proclaimed "We Play Anything" motto.
>
Nine FM took out the smooth jazz music, but country was left in there and played from time to time. It mainly focuses on classic rock/hits and Hot AC, with a few R&B titles in the playlist too. It sounded different once Sky Daniels left and Matt DuBiel on Middays took over PD duties, and he was the one that finally got the station to show up in the Arbitron ratings after one year on the air. As for listener imput, this is just my opinion, but I'd rather have a stations that takes listener input than a station that decides for us what should be played, and maybe jockless for the life of the station. Jack might last a while in Indianapolis, but it's anyone's guess how long it'll last in Chicago. Only the summer P1's will determine if Infinity Broadcasting made the right choice to dump heritage oldies in market #3, considering there's a large aging population in the market.
> the scope of music is that Jack includes in its programming.
> Listening to Jack in NYC (WCBS) on and off over last
> weekend, I actually began to see a bit of method to the
> madness... it really seemed me that the playlist largely dug
> back to about the mid 70's, and then went as recent as mid
> to late 90's, although about 75% of what I heard was indeed
> from the 80's, as you pointed out. The progression from
> song to song to song was surprisingly good. I listened to
> Nine once or twice shortly after they launched and sounded
> like a lost and underpaid DJ in a small town bar somewhere,
> the music was way all over the place. IN all fairness, it's
> my understanding that they've got the music direction dialed
> in a little better now, but I think they still rely heavily
> on audience input for their music selection, emphasizing
> their self-proclaimed "We Play Anything" motto.
>
Nine FM took out the smooth jazz music, but country was left in there and played from time to time. It mainly focuses on classic rock/hits and Hot AC, with a few R&B titles in the playlist too. It sounded different once Sky Daniels left and Matt DuBiel on Middays took over PD duties, and he was the one that finally got the station to show up in the Arbitron ratings after one year on the air. As for listener imput, this is just my opinion, but I'd rather have a stations that takes listener input than a station that decides for us what should be played, and maybe jockless for the life of the station. Jack might last a while in Indianapolis, but it's anyone's guess how long it'll last in Chicago. Only the summer P1's will determine if Infinity Broadcasting made the right choice to dump heritage oldies in market #3, considering there's a large aging population in the market.
> Just wondering, are there any Jack stations in the US that
> aren't jockless? I listened to Jack (WCBS) in NYC, they
> were jockless, so is Jack in Chicago (WJMK)... a
> Jack-variant in Raleigh NC (WRVA The River) is automated as
> well.
KPKX "98-7 the Peak" in Phoenix has jocks, and it sure doesn't sound like they're reading liner cards. It flipped to this format in May 2004 (if I remember correctly), which I believe makes it among the first "Jack" type stations in the country. The ratings have improved dramatically from the previous "K-Lite" AC format. It's a great station...we're very lucky to have it.
> aren't jockless? I listened to Jack (WCBS) in NYC, they
> were jockless, so is Jack in Chicago (WJMK)... a
> Jack-variant in Raleigh NC (WRVA The River) is automated as
> well.
KPKX "98-7 the Peak" in Phoenix has jocks, and it sure doesn't sound like they're reading liner cards. It flipped to this format in May 2004 (if I remember correctly), which I believe makes it among the first "Jack" type stations in the country. The ratings have improved dramatically from the previous "K-Lite" AC format. It's a great station...we're very lucky to have it.
I bet the whole playing what we want thing makes more sense with Jocks....
Who is the We at Jack in Indy, New York, or Chicago? Is we the jerk voice guy? Is he that much of a jerk that he uses the third person all the time?
I have always kinda wondered what a "real" listener thought about statoins with no jocks.
I remember, in college, listening to the Rocket in Lafayette, Indiana while doing certain "activities" with buddies in a garage.....At one point one of the guys said "man this station plays great stuff....I wish I knew what the hell it was"
That was around 2000....
Who is the We at Jack in Indy, New York, or Chicago? Is we the jerk voice guy? Is he that much of a jerk that he uses the third person all the time?
I have always kinda wondered what a "real" listener thought about statoins with no jocks.
I remember, in college, listening to the Rocket in Lafayette, Indiana while doing certain "activities" with buddies in a garage.....At one point one of the guys said "man this station plays great stuff....I wish I knew what the hell it was"
That was around 2000....
I
ipodradio
Guest
Yeah, the Rocket sounded a lot like X-103, the Wolf did a few of the same things when it first got on the air as well
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