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Station Flip In Tally???
- Thread starter WJEPPD
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WJEPPD said:Speaking of flips, WJEP flipped to WSBX
Your mother RESERVED the call letters. The FCC allows the buyer of a radio station to reserve call letters on behalf of a seller, but until a deal has been consumated, you are not allowed to use them.. also, you are NOT the legal owner of the facility until the consumation notice has been filed, which it hasn't.
Why does it matter anyways? Your station is off the air, you finally reported it on October 29th after way more then 30 days off the air.
How can you be on the air at 5KW as your STA says? Your transmitter blew up and can't be on the air at all.
Plus, I hear the reason that Clear Channel got The Dennis Miller show is because Westwood One looked at your little pissant peashooter signal that was off the air and offered it to a station that was ACTUALLY ON THE AIR and had a much better signal in the market then you do.. Not to mention, the proven financial ability to remain on the air for longer then 6 months...
So far, you have nothing and have proven nothing.
You're all talk and no action, blowing alot of steam and putting on a good show.. with no results.
I take that back.. the Consumation Notice HAS been filed, but not approved yet.
My original comments still stand.
My original comments still stand.
sixfigure said:WSBX???? The original "Call letters that will blow your mind" ???????????????????????????????????????????????????
Someone translate for me. Please!! ??? ???
No, the mind blowing part of the call letter flip comes in January
radioguybroadcasting said:WJEPPD said:Speaking of flips, WJEP flipped to WSBX
Your mother RESERVED the call letters. The FCC allows the buyer of a radio station to reserve call letters on behalf of a seller, but until a deal has been consumated, you are not allowed to use them.. also, you are NOT the legal owner of the facility until the consumation notice has been filed, which it hasn't.
Why does it matter anyways? Your station is off the air, you finally reported it on October 29th after way more then 30 days off the air.
How can you be on the air at 5KW as your STA says? Your transmitter blew up and can't be on the air at all.
Plus, I hear the reason that Clear Channel got The Dennis Miller show is because Westwood One looked at your little pissant peashooter signal that was off the air and offered it to a station that was ACTUALLY ON THE AIR and had a much better signal in the market then you do.. Not to mention, the proven financial ability to remain on the air for longer then 6 months...
So far, you have nothing and have proven nothing.
You're all talk and no action, blowing alot of steam and putting on a good show.. with no results.
You should also re read the STA. It says that we are taking it off the air, then on December 1st resuming at 5 KW for 30 days until we finish new tower site set to go online on January 1st at full 10KW. The current transmitter site was never configured correctly and not to mention it was never maintained. The new tower site covers 90% of the C.O.L. and puts a city grade signal into Tallahassee. As you know the minimum is 70% of the C.O.L. to be covered. The choice of the current tower site was a horrible choice because they got the land cheap or free and it sits at a very high point which would be great if it were an FM...
WJEPPD said:radioguybroadcasting said:WJEPPD said:Speaking of flips, WJEP flipped to WSBX
Your mother RESERVED the call letters. The FCC allows the buyer of a radio station to reserve call letters on behalf of a seller, but until a deal has been consumated, you are not allowed to use them.. also, you are NOT the legal owner of the facility until the consumation notice has been filed, which it hasn't.
Why does it matter anyways? Your station is off the air, you finally reported it on October 29th after way more then 30 days off the air.
How can you be on the air at 5KW as your STA says? Your transmitter blew up and can't be on the air at all.
Plus, I hear the reason that Clear Channel got The Dennis Miller show is because Westwood One looked at your little pissant peashooter signal that was off the air and offered it to a station that was ACTUALLY ON THE AIR and had a much better signal in the market then you do.. Not to mention, the proven financial ability to remain on the air for longer then 6 months...
So far, you have nothing and have proven nothing.
You're all talk and no action, blowing alot of steam and putting on a good show.. with no results.
You should also re read the STA. It says that we are taking it off the air, then on December 1st resuming at 5 KW for 30 days until we finish new tower site set to go online on January 1st at full 10KW. The current transmitter site was never configured correctly and not to mention it was never maintained. The new tower site covers 90% of the C.O.L. and puts a city grade signal into Tallahassee. As you know the minimum is 70% of the C.O.L. to be covered. The choice of the current tower site was a horrible choice because they got the land cheap or free and it sits at a very high point which would be great if it were an FM...
You can't move a tower and change tower sites till you've filed an application to do so even if the signal still covers all of your COL.. and I don't see any sort of modification application or STA for the new site on file.
radioguybroadcasting said:WJEPPD said:radioguybroadcasting said:WJEPPD said:Speaking of flips, WJEP flipped to WSBX
Your mother RESERVED the call letters. The FCC allows the buyer of a radio station to reserve call letters on behalf of a seller, but until a deal has been consumated, you are not allowed to use them.. also, you are NOT the legal owner of the facility until the consumation notice has been filed, which it hasn't.
Why does it matter anyways? Your station is off the air, you finally reported it on October 29th after way more then 30 days off the air.
How can you be on the air at 5KW as your STA says? Your transmitter blew up and can't be on the air at all.
Plus, I hear the reason that Clear Channel got The Dennis Miller show is because Westwood One looked at your little pissant peashooter signal that was off the air and offered it to a station that was ACTUALLY ON THE AIR and had a much better signal in the market then you do.. Not to mention, the proven financial ability to remain on the air for longer then 6 months...
So far, you have nothing and have proven nothing.
You're all talk and no action, blowing alot of steam and putting on a good show.. with no results.
You should also re read the STA. It says that we are taking it off the air, then on December 1st resuming at 5 KW for 30 days until we finish new tower site set to go online on January 1st at full 10KW. The current transmitter site was never configured correctly and not to mention it was never maintained. The new tower site covers 90% of the C.O.L. and puts a city grade signal into Tallahassee. As you know the minimum is 70% of the C.O.L. to be covered. The choice of the current tower site was a horrible choice because they got the land cheap or free and it sits at a very high point which would be great if it were an FM...
You can't move a tower and change tower sites till you've filed an application to do so even if the signal still covers all of your COL.. and I don't see any sort of modification application or STA for the new site on file.
We are not moving or changing tower sites yet. That filing should hit tomorrow or Tuesday. We get things done fast around here
..and here we've been giving you a hard time about your big plans for a rural daytimer. You didn't tell us you actually planned on investing a chunk of change into that hungry beast.
Previous posters over the years have called Tallahassee the "worst AM market in the country." Are you sure it's a good idea to try to put a new AM signal over Tallahassee? AM radio has been dead there all of my life so you're going to have a tough time even reminding people how to tune in an AM station.
Oh, back to giving you a hard time, I thought it took years to get approval to move the site of an AM transmitter. Your post makes it sound like you plan on doing it all by the end of this year.
Previous posters over the years have called Tallahassee the "worst AM market in the country." Are you sure it's a good idea to try to put a new AM signal over Tallahassee? AM radio has been dead there all of my life so you're going to have a tough time even reminding people how to tune in an AM station.
Oh, back to giving you a hard time, I thought it took years to get approval to move the site of an AM transmitter. Your post makes it sound like you plan on doing it all by the end of this year.
poledo said:..and here we've been giving you a hard time about your big plans for a rural daytimer. You didn't tell us you actually planned on investing a chunk of change into that hungry beast.
Previous posters over the years have called Tallahassee the "worst AM market in the country." Are you sure it's a good idea to try to put a new AM signal over Tallahassee? AM radio has been dead there all of my life so you're going to have a tough time even reminding people how to tune in an AM station.
Oh, back to giving you a hard time, I thought it took years to get approval to move the site of an AM transmitter. Your post makes it sound like you plan on doing it all by the end of this year.
On average, it only takes 2 to 4 months to get the FCC to approve a new site.
it might take the local Zoning board a bit longer, and I think thats what you meant.
WJEPPD said:We are not moving or changing tower sites yet. That filing should hit tomorrow or Tuesday. We get things done fast around here
Have you started building your new tower site yet?
It's going to take at least a month to do everything from preparing the land to final wiring up of the tower, atu and transmitter.
I think that is a very optimistic time line especially if there is a proposal to move the site.
get building permit and zoning approval
Get FCC approval
Prepare/clear site
install ground system
install tower base and guy anchor footings
build tower
install lighting
install ATU
and/or phasor if adding directional
and can you even get a new daytime DA?
or must it include night time?
build transmitter building
install transmitter
IF adding directional tune and proof pattern
Six months would be optimistic!
get building permit and zoning approval
Get FCC approval
Prepare/clear site
install ground system
install tower base and guy anchor footings
build tower
install lighting
install ATU
and/or phasor if adding directional
and can you even get a new daytime DA?
or must it include night time?
build transmitter building
install transmitter
IF adding directional tune and proof pattern
Six months would be optimistic!
Charlie Gee said:I think that is a very optimistic time line especially if there is a proposal to move the site.
get building permit and zoning approval
Get FCC approval
Prepare/clear site
install ground system
install tower base and guy anchor footings
build tower
install lighting
install ATU
and/or phasor if adding directional
and can you even get a new daytime DA?
or must it include night time?
build transmitter building
install transmitter
IF adding directional tune and proof pattern
Six months would be optimistic!
no lighting, under 200 feet, no zoning in rural spot, got a tower guy to do the other stuff
Charlie Gee said:I think that is a very optimistic time line especially if there is a proposal to move the site.
get building permit and zoning approval
Get FCC approval
Prepare/clear site
install ground system
install tower base and guy anchor footings
build tower
install lighting
install ATU
and/or phasor if adding directional
and can you even get a new daytime DA?
or must it include night time?
build transmitter building
install transmitter
IF adding directional tune and proof pattern
Six months would be optimistic!
transmitter building is built and ready to plop down with new transmitters in it, sounds like a 30 day process to me as the FCC approval will take 7 days
WJEPPD said:Charlie Gee said:I think that is a very optimistic time line especially if there is a proposal to move the site.
get building permit and zoning approval
Get FCC approval
Prepare/clear site
install ground system
install tower base and guy anchor footings
build tower
install lighting
install ATU
and/or phasor if adding directional
and can you even get a new daytime DA?
or must it include night time?
build transmitter building
install transmitter
IF adding directional tune and proof pattern
Six months would be optimistic!
transmitter building is built and ready to plop down with new transmitters in it, sounds like a 30 day process to me as the FCC approval will take 7 days
I fear that whoever your broadcast attorney is , is not communicating well with you.. most of the statements you are putting on this board would classify you as someone who should not be let loose in a radio station.
You have NO clue with regards to engineering matters or FCC procedures. You talk a good game but are nothing but show and smoke. In addition, your fixation with call letters is absurd and even the most entry level broadcasting school student that you can't serve a major market from a town 30 or 40 miles away even if you do have a city grade signal.
Your love for Cabo Wabo makes me wonder why you're not there.
As well, I've been told it's FACT you've sent your resume to other radio stations.. if you in fact, own a station, why do you need so desperately plead to other stations for work?
And don't say you haven't done it..you've applied at MY station!
I see on your site where it says your office at the radio station is open 10am to 3pm. Sorry bub, you're violating an FCC law there.. as the FCC says you MUST be there 8 hours during the REGULAR BUSINESS day, which can be 8am to 4pm, 9am to 5pm, 10am to 6pm...10am to 3pm DOESN'T cut it!
AM 1020 isn't legally WSBX yet either! Yet, I see it on your website and hear it on your webstream...
radioguybroadcasting said:WJEPPD said:Charlie Gee said:I think that is a very optimistic time line especially if there is a proposal to move the site.
get building permit and zoning approval
Get FCC approval
Prepare/clear site
install ground system
install tower base and guy anchor footings
build tower
install lighting
install ATU
and/or phasor if adding directional
and can you even get a new daytime DA?
or must it include night time?
build transmitter building
install transmitter
IF adding directional tune and proof pattern
Six months would be optimistic!
transmitter building is built and ready to plop down with new transmitters in it, sounds like a 30 day process to me as the FCC approval will take 7 days
I fear that whoever your broadcast attorney is , is not communicating well with you.. most of the statements you are putting on this board would classify you as someone who should not be let loose in a radio station.
You have NO clue with regards to engineering matters or FCC procedures. You talk a good game but are nothing but show and smoke. In addition, your fixation with call letters is absurd and even the most entry level broadcasting school student that you can't serve a major market from a town 30 or 40 miles away even if you do have a city grade signal.
Your love for Cabo Wabo makes me wonder why you're not there.
As well, I've been told it's FACT you've sent your resume to other radio stations.. if you in fact, own a station, why do you need so desperately plead to other stations for work?
And don't say you haven't done it..you've applied at MY station!
I see on your site where it says your office at the radio station is open 10am to 3pm. Sorry bub, you're violating an FCC law there.. as the FCC says you MUST be there 8 hours during the REGULAR BUSINESS day, which can be 8am to 4pm, 9am to 5pm, 10am to 6pm...10am to 3pm DOESN'T cut it!
AM 1020 isn't legally WSBX yet either! Yet, I see it on your website and hear it on your webstream...
It does not state that the business hours are 10 to 3, any moron knows business hours are 9 to 5. The Hours to pick up prizes are 10 to 3. Get a cvlue and get a life and quit looking for things to be crotchity about. The new tower site which covers the COL sits 18 miles from the COL and 18 Miles from tallahassee, that easily covers both within the 2mv . No it is not there yet, as bad as the current tower site is, it does quite well when the equipment is kept in running order...Oh tell me guru, why is it not legally WSBX yet? The filing was done, the FCC accepted the $90 fee, or has that changed in your mind? Do me a favor, and go back under the rock you crawled out from...Remember, we are silent until 12/01/08 and preparing our webstream and website so it all syncs up...
Oh and by the way, I am not applying anywhere, I simply always look for extra voice work. By the way you sound, you must have a ton of turn over at your peashooter of a station...
2 mv/m is good, but you really need 5.0 mv/m to have city grade signal over your city of license.
Charlie Gee said:2 mv/m is good, but you really need 5.0 mv/m to have city grade signal over your city of license.
But come on, Woody is the Raido God.. he knows all, wether it's engineering or programming. He doesn't even need a lawyer.
oh, and the reason AM 1020 isn't LEGALLY WSBX yet? You simply RESERVED the call letters. The Fee paid was THE FILLING FEE. The FCC database still shows it as WJEP.
It takes a few weeks to a month or so before the new calls are approved.
radioguybroadcasting said:Charlie Gee said:2 mv/m is good, but you really need 5.0 mv/m to have city grade signal over your city of license.
But come on, Woody is the Raido God.. he knows all, wether it's engineering or programming. He doesn't even need a lawyer.
oh, and the reason AM 1020 isn't LEGALLY WSBX yet? You simply RESERVED the call letters. The Fee paid was THE FILLING FEE. The FCC database still shows it as WJEP.
It takes a few weeks to a month or so before the new calls are approved.
I got approval via email notification today
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