Station & Jock mud slinging...

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It's been decades since radio stations actually made fun of each other (well at least in the NYC market) Then Pulse 87 launches & resurrected mud slinging imaging aimed at KTU & Z100. About a year later 923 NOW launches with a strong campaign against Z-100! Pulse 87 not letting an opportunity go to waste immediately start taking aim at 923 NOW. Suddenly NYC radio is becoming fun again not only are they forcing each other to play music they otherwise would have ignored but now it's a nice competition and entertainment (at least for me as a listener) when I hear imaging that pokes fun at each other!

But yesterday afternoon I heard it being taken even further, When Chunky night guy at 923 Now took a personal shot, not only at a station but at Pulse 87 weekender Able Sanchez, later I hear a phoner being aired on Pulse 87 by Able Sanchez (who was filling in for pm drive Nikko) making him aware of it and while attempting to appear as if he was taking the high road Able Sanchez also took some swipes at Chunky and 923 NOW. This afternoon Able was on air again at Pulse and ran the call again, this time altering it and being a little more direct in slinging mud at Chunky.

Not to long ago DJ lil Cee was doing afternoons at Pulse 87 then suddenly appeared on 923 NOW doing weekends on that same weekend current Pulse 87 jocks made comments poking fun at DJ lil Cee obviously because he went across the street. In light of this incident and the more recent one Chunky vs. Able Sanchez I began wondering; at what point does the poking fun go too far???

Star & Buck Wild Morning Show had a similar incident that ended up with criminal charges being filed and incarceration of Star. Does this make radio more fun if so does it help either party? What do PD's think about it and is it even worth it???

 

[Silkie]

Radio is a business that has few listeners anymore. It's not just mudslinging, talking or putting to music somebody else's programming in a negative light, or even personalities that should be charged criminally who never will be.

When people want to sit back and relax after working a 65 hour week dealing with all manner of crap that people pull they aren't in the mood for others' bull*&%# games on any front - especially when they have made sure to be there for another who might be having a hard time, in spite of their own hectic schedules. It gets to a point where people just figure radio is trash all the way around. We find the places that have people who get it right.

 

[radiogroupie]

Rule Number 1 - The little guy with only maybe 600 listeners should not go after the bigger station with lots more wattage and millions more listeners. And besides, Chunky is probably a lot bigger!

radiogroupie

 

[Silkie]

Rule Number 1 - The little guy with only maybe 600 listeners should not go after the bigger station with lots more wattage and millions more listeners. And besides, Chunky is probably a lot bigger!

radiogroupie

Rule Number 1 - do unto others as you would have others do unto you - and don't look so surprised when a scrappy little old lady whacks you with her her umbrella, however big anyone is, and keeps pummeling until they stop thinking they can just keep mugging her.

 

[neo11]

Rule Number 1 - The little guy with only maybe 600 listeners should not go after the bigger station with lots more wattage and millions more listeners. And besides, Chunky is probably a lot bigger!

radiogroupie

You left out three zeros after the 600. And so far at least, 92.3 NOW does *not* have millions more listeners than Pulse. It remains to be seen if they'll even have more listeners than K-Rock did before it!

 

[radiogroupie]

I believe 92.3 already out cumes the old K-ROCK right out of the box.

And trust me - Pulse is not whacking anybody in the New York City radio market.

RadioGroupie

 

[neo11]

I believe 92.3 already out cumes the old K-ROCK right out of the box.

And trust me - Pulse is not whacking anybody in the New York City radio market.

RadioGroupie

Radiogroupie:

The only numbers we've seen so far have shown 92.3 NOW's cume to actually be *smaller* than K-Rock's from the previous few months of the PPM ratings. Granted, the ratings period included one final week of K-Rock, and its still early, but without having seen new numbers, it's a bit reckless of you to claim that NOW is significantly out-cuming K-Rock.

As for Pulse, it's a bit unfair to compare it to any of the full power commercial stations. No one here expects Pulse to beat Now or Z100 or KTU. But if a station at the very bottom of the dial, one that broadcasts "off-center" (on 87.75), with no promotion, with a flea-powered signal is still attaining a cume of at least 600,000, based on what we know, I would say that is comparatively more impressive than a huge signal like 92.3, which is several times stronger and covers much more ground than Pulse and is in the commercial dial, getting barely more than twice the cume that Pulse does.

As a further thought experiment, let's assume that Pulse was on 92.3. Judging by its performance, it's probably not a stretch to say that it wouldn't do any worse than NOW did in its first book, with a more "esoteric" format.

Of course, the hate against Pulse is nothing new on this board. It's pretty curious how your only two posts here on RI thus far have been to "hate" against Pulse. Are you sure you're not affiliated with 92.3 NOW, "radiogroupie"?

 

[Silkie]

I believe 92.3 already out cumes the old K-ROCK right out of the box.

And trust me - Pulse is not whacking anybody in the New York City radio market.

RadioGroupie

That is the manner of conduct to which I referred in my previous post: Pugnacious, spoiling for a fight when people are just plain weary of it. I was merely suggesting that some improve their tone overall.

Of course, the hate against Pulse is nothing new on this board. It's pretty curious how your only two posts here on RI thus far have been to "hate" against Pulse. Are you sure you're not affiliated with 92.3 NOW, "radiogroupie"?

It is almost as though there is a little network of them in pockets around the country: We've heard what happens in places like Texas and Illinois. The New York branch has now weighed in on the RI Board.

And there are always the same defense exhibits presented, as though nobody has heard them before over the decades.

 

[Dick Skinner]

Radio is a business that has few listeners anymore.

What a misinformed assertion! Radio has a weekly cume in excess of 240,000,000.

 

[Silkie]

Radio is a business that has few listeners anymore.

What a misinformed assertion! Radio has a weekly cume in excess of 240,000,000.

The station dial being placed on a station and paying attention to it are differerent. Flipping the dial is another matter. Thanks for the statistic.

 

[radiogroupie]

>>>The only numbers we've seen so far have shown 92.3 NOW's cume to actually be *smaller* than K-Rock's from the previous few months of the PPM ratings.<<


Wrong again Neo - Your not seeing the demos where they are beating K-ROCK and the real demos that matter to 923 and the their sales department. Basically the same demos as Pulse could only pray for.... And obviously you're not seeing the recent weekly ratings numbers. Still in a nutshell, Pulse has virtually no listeners and never will.

radiogroupie

 

[nd2023]

Pulse has over 700,000 listeners tune in at least once a week
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Mega-Media-Group-Inc-Pulse87-iw-15054148.html

92.3 Now has at least a million PISSED OFF listeners that used to like K-Rock. We'll know next month how Now and Pulse stack up.

As to why Lil Cee left, he had to have been offered better compensation for 92.3 Now than at Pulse 87. The PD at Now must have noticed his talent from when he was on KTU and now on Pulse 87. CBS is less likely to go bankrupt than a company like Mega Media.

Pulse 87 wants 92.3 Now to make fun of it by name and frequency on the air. That way, the people who are tired of hearing the same 6 songs over and over will tune to 87.7 for some more variety.

Z100 isn't making fun of either Pulse or Now, as it doesn't want people fleeing to 87.7 or 92.3. Pulse 87 has nothing to lose, as most of its listeners are P1's who can only find their favorite music at 87.7. 92.3 Now's entire audience already knows about Z100, so it has little to lose by making fun of Z100. But it would have something to lose by making fun of Pulse 87.

I like hearing stations making fun of each other. In Philly, Q102 and Wired used to make fun of each other (Q102: We're giving away cell phones this weekend, because being Wired sucks) (Wired: FAHHHHHHHH-Q). Now, the rimshot dance station, Z88.9, makes fun of both Q and Wired, but not as much as Pulse makes fun of Z100, KTU, and Now.
Attacking other stations on the air is a pissing contest.

 

[videokilledtheradiostar]

Station and jock mud slinging is passe'. Because it's small market garbage. Nobody cares about it. On FM, just play the tunes, send off a couple of one liners then and again, play those most annoying commercials and then move on.

 

[Silkie]

Station and jock mud slinging is passe'. Because it's small market garbage. Nobody cares about it. On FM, just play the tunes, send off a couple of one liners then and again, play those most annoying commercials and then move on.

That's The Way I Like It (uh huh, uh huh)

 

[neo11]

>>>The only numbers we've seen so far have shown 92.3 NOW's cume to actually be *smaller* than K-Rock's from the previous few months of the PPM ratings.<<


Wrong again Neo - Your not seeing the demos where they are beating K-ROCK and the real demos that matter to 923 and the their sales department. Basically the same demos as Pulse could only pray for.... And obviously you're not seeing the recent weekly ratings numbers. Still in a nutshell, Pulse has virtually no listeners and never will.

radiogroupie

It's all spin. We'll see how NOW does when the next monthly numbers are released. Even if NOW has three times the cume that Pulse has, that's far from a success, considering the huge disparities in signal strength and dial position, promotions, and the fact that NOW is a more mainstream format. But feel free to hate all you want, you're not the first (or the last) that will do so on this board, even if those seem to be your only contributions here thus far.

 

[nd2023]

Heard on Pulse 87

"Oh great. Another radio station playing the same 10 songs. What do they call that thing? The National Organization of Women must be really pissed"

 

[radiogroupie]

>>>We'll see how NOW does when the next monthly numbers are released.<<<

Actually, you don't have to wait for the monthly. Weekly PPM numbers are available if you can find someone with them. The Old K-ROCK around 1.5 million cume - NOW is over 2 million cume! Not bad. Zero - 2 million cume in less than 8 weeks. Pulse FM dropping fast!

radiogroupie

 

[Radaioman]

>>>We'll see how NOW does when the next monthly numbers are released.<<<

Actually, you don't have to wait for the monthly. Weekly PPM numbers are available if you can find someone with them. The Old K-ROCK around 1.5 million cume - NOW is over 2 million cume! Not bad. Zero - 2 million cume in less than 8 weeks. Pulse FM dropping fast!

radiogroupie

Biased much? Pulse isn't dropping and Now does not have a trend of a 2 million cume nor do they have real numbers post commercial free. Let's see what their real numbers are come August.

 

[Silkie]

Biased much? Pulse isn't dropping and Now does not have a trend of a 2 million cume nor do they have real numbers post commercial free. Let's see what their real numbers are come August.

Hmmm

 

[radiogroupie]

I can't wait until August, and we probably will find out the fate of all by late MAY! PPM works that fast -

Radiogroupie