Stations slow to pick HDTV channel assignments

[Markxxx]

The FCC says that 246 TV stations have still not chosen their permanent digital channel assignment Thy mustg pick channels by August 8 otherwise the FCC will impose its own assignments.

There are 39 stations in top 10 markets that have yet to choose an assignment. WPIX, WABC, WOR and four other stations in New York have yet to decide. Other big market laggards include KTTV Los Angeles; WMUR and WFXT Boston; WGBO and WXFT Chicago; KGO and KQED San Francisco; KTVT Dallas; and WDCA Washington.

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[jjkktj]

> The FCC says that 246 TV stations have still not chosen
> their permanent digital channel assignment Thy mustg pick
> channels by August 8 otherwise the FCC will impose its own
> assignments.
>
> There are 39 stations in top 10 markets that have yet to
> choose an assignment. WPIX, WABC, WOR and four other
> stations in New York have yet to decide. Other big market
> laggards include KTTV Los Angeles; WMUR and WFXT Boston;
> WGBO and WXFT Chicago; KGO and KQED San Francisco; KTVT
> Dallas; and WDCA Washington.
>
> For full article click on link
>
> Click Here For Article
>
> Comments???
>
I thought I saw somewhere (I think it was a post from TxEngineer) on the New England board that WMUR had selected to have their digital signal on Channel 9 (which is their current analog allocation.) I would not think they have much of a choice since their digital allocation is out of core at channel 59 unless they negotiate with another station???

 

[AlanB]

KTVT Dallas;> Comments???


One: KTVT is not licensed to Dallas. It is licensed to Fort Worth, and has its studios there.


Two: The FCC denied its perfered channel position (requesting to stay at 11) because of possible intereference with KXII-12 in nearby Sherman, Texas (who is also looking to stay at the same channel number). KTVT, for some reason, does not want to move to its previously assigned DTV spot and is trying to negociate a a way to stay in the VHF band.

 

[KMRichards]

> There are 39 stations in top 10 markets that have yet to
> choose an assignment. WPIX, WABC, WOR and four other
> stations in New York have yet to decide. Other big market
> laggards include KTTV Los Angeles; WMUR and WFXT Boston;
> WGBO and WXFT Chicago; KGO and KQED San Francisco; KTVT
> Dallas; and WDCA Washington.

As I recall, KQED is negotiating an agreement with KRON which also involves KFSN in Fresno.
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[Mediafrog]

> Two: The FCC denied its perfered channcel position
> (requeting to stay at 11) because of possible intereference
> with KXII-12 in nearby Sherman, Texas

I'm not sure why this would be an issue. DTV transmitters currently operate on adjacent channels in the same market, so why would the KTVT/11 and KXII/12 signals be a problem?

 

[Tom_Desmond]

> I'm not sure why this would be an issue. DTV transmitters
> currently operate on adjacent channels in the same market,
> so why would the KTVT/11 and KXII/12 signals be a problem?

Because adjacent channel operation only works if the two stations are transmitting from the same antenna farm. Adjacent channel DTVs must either transmit from within a few kilometers of each other or be separated by slightly over 100 km.

 

[AlanB]

> > Two: The FCC denied its perfered channcel position
> > (requeting to stay at 11) because of possible
> intereference
> > with KXII-12 in nearby Sherman, Texas
>
> I'm not sure why this would be an issue. DTV transmitters
> currently operate on adjacent channels in the same market,
> so why would the KTVT/11 and KXII/12 signals be a problem?

in this case, the protected contour of KXII overlaps slightly with the northernmost part of KTVT's broadcast contour. Therefore the interferance in that small area if both stations broadcast at full power if why the FCC denied KTVT's petition to stay on ch. 11.

 

[Mark_Ericson]

> The FCC says that 246 TV stations have still not chosen
> their permanent digital channel assignment Thy mustg pick
> channels by August 8 otherwise the FCC will impose its own
> assignments.
>
> There are 39 stations in top 10 markets that have yet to
> choose an assignment. WPIX, WABC, WOR and four other
> stations in New York have yet to decide. Other big market
> laggards include KTTV Los Angeles; WMUR and WFXT Boston;
> WGBO and WXFT Chicago; KGO and KQED San Francisco; KTVT
> Dallas; and WDCA Washington.

Is there a complete list of stations that got rejected somewhere? And is form 383 on the FCC site the conflict resolution form?

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[KeithE]

> The FCC says that 246 TV stations have still not chosen
> their permanent digital channel assignment Thy mustg pick
> channels by August 8 otherwise the FCC will impose its own
> assignments.
>
> There are 39 stations in top 10 markets that have yet to
> choose an assignment. WPIX, WABC, WOR and four other
> stations in New York have yet to decide. Other big market
> laggards include KTTV Los Angeles; WMUR and WFXT Boston;
> WGBO and WXFT Chicago; KGO and KQED San Francisco; KTVT
> Dallas; and WDCA Washington.

There were several oversights in the FCC list. KTTV Los Angeles & KAET Phoenix are two I found right off. Both elected to use their analog channels (11 & 8, respectively) for DTV. Their applications are in the CDBS database.

 

[TXengineer]

Correction, to pick their DT assignments (n/t)

> The FCC says that 246 TV stations have still not chosen
> their permanent digital channel assignment Thy mustg pick
> channels by August 8 otherwise the FCC will impose its own
> assignments.
>
> There are 39 stations in top 10 markets that have yet to
> choose an assignment. WPIX, WABC, WOR and four other
> stations in New York have yet to decide. Other big market
> laggards include KTTV Los Angeles; WMUR and WFXT Boston;
> WGBO and WXFT Chicago; KGO and KQED San Francisco; KTVT
> Dallas; and WDCA Washington.
>
> For full article click on link
>
> Click Here For Article
>
> Comments???
>

 

[BoardmanDJ]

TV wise, channels 3&4, 5&6, 7&8, 9&10, 11&12 are really close to each other.

Cities can have a 4&5 together (Like WDAF and KCTV in KC), or a 6&7 (WOWT and KETV in Omaha). You can't have a 7&8 together and you do get problems. There's a channel 7 in Omaha and a Channel 8 in Lincoln Nebraska. You get some freaky problems with a non directional even with the cities 60 miles apart (the towers are even further apart).



> > Two: The FCC denied its perfered channcel position
> > (requeting to stay at 11) because of possible
> intereference
> > with KXII-12 in nearby Sherman, Texas
>
> I'm not sure why this would be an issue. DTV transmitters
> currently operate on adjacent channels in the same market,
> so why would the KTVT/11 and KXII/12 signals be a problem?
>

 

[KMRichards]

> TV wise, channels 3&4, 5&6, 7&8, 9&10, 11&12 are really
> close to each other.
>
> Cities can have a 4&5 together (Like WDAF and KCTV in KC),
> or a 6&7 (WOWT and KETV in Omaha). You can't have a 7&8
> together and you do get problems. There's a channel 7 in
> Omaha and a Channel 8 in Lincoln Nebraska. You get some
> freaky problems with a non directional even with the cities
> 60 miles apart (the towers are even further apart).

That is true with analog. Digital uses somewhat different rules. For example, adjacent channels can operate in the same market, even in UHF, if they are both at the same tower farm.
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