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stations that never were

Bob E. Nelson said:
That's one I never heard about until now and I thank you for that information. Do you have any details on what the night pattern would have been like for the KQV plant at 620? WWNR and WHEN in Syracuse are the two co-channels that spring to mind.
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As I understand it, the diectional array would have been somewhere around Aliquippa, with a big lobe to the SE
into the city. Stations on 620 in Milwaukee and Newark would have required protection at night along with the
two you mentioned, and probably others as well.

C.
 
hypwr said:
In 1959 former Pirates broadcaster Dick Bingham and I made plans to build WMTL(FM) in Mt. Lebanon on 102.5 MHz. We had financing and a tower location above Rt. 88 near Casle Shannon. We ran into some delays and after awhile I joined the staff of DYSR AM/SW and we dropped our plans.

Does anyone know of other stations in the area that never got on the air? Just curious.
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What Format Were you Planing? is That how KQV got 102.5?
 
xm41 said:
I heard old rumors about an 890am in Bethal Park that had once been planed. It might have been hearsay.
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Yes A CP Approved for a New Station on 890, My Understanding That it was Never Built Was Finding a Transmitter Site Location . Two were Listed on the CP's. Could it have Been "NIBY"?
 
PHIL Z said:
hypwr said:
In 1959 former Pirates broadcaster Dick Bingham and I made plans to build WMTL(FM) in Mt. Lebanon on 102.5 MHz. We had financing and a tower location above Rt. 88 near Casle Shannon. We ran into some delays and after awhile I joined the staff of DYSR AM/SW and we dropped our plans.

Does anyone know of other stations in the area that never got on the air? Just curious.
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What Format Were you Planing? is That how KQV got 102.5?
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We were going to use a modified version of the WKJF format but with vocals and news at the top and bottom of the hour. If the combo person on the air of the Greer station started an ET and it was a vocal, he would fade down and start a new instrumental song.

Bob Clarke, the GM of WKJF encouraged us to move ahead because he figured that the more FMs on the air the more people would try the band.
 
Back in 1959 KQV did an engineering study to move the transmitter to Davis Island in the Ohio River. I would have been a 4 tower box, pulled out. However, ABC determined it wouldn't be much of an improvement so they dropped. We were all happy since it would require that we take a boat over to the island.
 
cingram said:
Bob E. Nelson said:
As I recall Steubenville's channel 9 had an app (and maybe even a CP) to move the transmitter much closer into Pittsburgh. Back in the OTA days, when such things still mattered, it could have been a VHF indy and later a Fox affiliate on a prime channel assignment. That ship has long since sailed, but I don't recall there being co-channel QRM had WSTV/WTOV headed east into the Burgettstown/Cecil/McDonald area.
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In 1955, CBS filed with the FCC to buy WSTV for $3 million, contingent on re-licensing channel 9 to Florence,
PA and moving the transmitter. The site actually would have been close to where channel 11 is located now.
The FCC saw this for what it was -- an attempt to create another Pittsburgh VHF station -- and denied the
application.

C.
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But how many of you considered back then Channel 9 to be another Pittsburgh VHF? I know we used to watch Channel 9 a lot during the '80s.
 
cingram said:
Bob E. Nelson said:
That's one I never heard about until now and I thank you for that information. Do you have any details on what the night pattern would have been like for the KQV plant at 620? WWNR and WHEN in Syracuse are the two co-channels that spring to mind.
Click to expand...

As I understand it, the diectional array would have been somewhere around Aliquippa, with a big lobe to the SE
into the city. Stations on 620 in Milwaukee and Newark would have required protection at night along with the
two you mentioned, and probably others as well.

C.
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What Power would 1410 have in Greensburg? Would They Use the Greensburg Transmitter Site?
 
Here's another one you probably haven't heard of: Back in the days when United Broadcasting Co. (of
Cleveland/Baltimore/Washington fame) was seeking a TV channel in Pittsburgh, they also applied for a
5,000-watt fulltimer in Pittsburgh on 1470. In the end, they got neither.

C.
 
When I was 13, I played radio on a made up station using an old Victrola. I called it WXR and it was on 780 in my head and easily beat KQV with 50,000 watts clear channel with studios and transmitter in Point Breeze. Of course I had to use Monopoly money to buy WBBM and reduce its power to 5,000 watts nights.
 
MsMusicRadio said:
When I was 13, I played radio on a made up station using an old Victrola. I called it WXR and it was on 780 in my head and easily beat KQV with 50,000 watts clear channel with studios and transmitter in Point Breeze. Of course I had to use Monopoly money to buy WBBM and reduce its power to 5,000 watts nights.
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I love it!!!!!!!!!!
 
AM 530, WOYY. Wilmerding's 50,000 watt voice of Klezmer Punk.
A service of Foonman Broadcasting.
 
cingram said:
On the television side, there was WTVQ (channel 47), the third early UHF station in Pittsburgh, which
held a CP for almost five years, but was never built.

Here is a clipping from the 1957 Television Factbook, just before they surrendered the permit. Ch. 47
was eventually reallocated to Altoona, where Cornerstone put it on the air as WKBS-TV.

http://www.clarkeingram.com/wtvq1957.jpg

C.
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From Broadcasting Mag 3/9/1953 WENS TV Buys WCAE FM Site

http://www.americanradiohistory.com/Archive-BC-IDX/53-OCR/1953-03-16-BC-0067.pdf#search="wens tv"
 
WCAE-FM had a Blaw-Knox tower at that site. It was quite wide and only went up about a hundred feet or so. They would have added on to it when they got their TV CP. A former KQV and VOA friend of mine used to work their. I believe they had one of those great looking Westinghouse xmtrs. with the ultra-violet lit meters.
 
From 1975 Another TV Station, WQHO Channel 21 In Greensburg. Owned by Edwin Warman of Warman Comm's in Uniontown.
 
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