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Stations without jocks

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dan_greenberg1500

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After watching coverage of the Seattle shootings at the Jewish center today, I just can't help but wonder how important a station like JACK is when it doesn't even serve the public interest. Granted it's a music station but other FM's around the dial at least have live jocks and traffic folks to let listeners know to stay out of that area not only for traffic issues but mainly for their safety.

I mean how tragic does an event have to be before the people at CBS think it's important enough to put someone live on to at least fill their listeners in on what's going on in their city.
 
dan_greenberg1500 said:
After watching coverage of the Seattle shootings at the Jewish center today, I just can't help but wonder how important a station like JACK is when it doesn't even serve the public interest. Granted it's a music station but other FM's around the dial at least have live jocks and traffic folks to let listeners know to stay out of that area not only for traffic issues but mainly for their safety.

I mean how tragic does an event have to be before the people at CBS think it's important enough to put someone live on to at least fill their listeners in on what's going on in their city.

That's quite a stretch. And rather tasteless to use the shootings for leverage to have live jocks.
 
The post wasn't meant to push the fact of having live jocks. I have just always thought it was radio's responsibility to be informative when something like this happens. At the very least a newsperson on duty or from another station in the same building to fill listeners in on any news that might be beneficial to their listeners.
 
I agree with Dan. It's not extremes...you can have automated/imaged station and still have a news break-in during IMPORTANT events so people still feel they can, at least, be connected when it happens.

Similar to morning of 9/11 when some stations reacted well ... others weren't willing to screw up a Matchbox 20 rotation for sake of being a personal companion.
 
I agree, if I were listening in my car, and caught wind on something happening... I'd want more info, and would channel flip till I found someone with the info.
 
So what if Jack or Warm or KIXI or whatever station didn't put in a live feed or break in to tell of what happened? Is what happened today bigger because one person died, or is it bigger when there's *GASP* a direct affect onto traffic? Guess what, that's what news radio is for.

Short of a plane going into the Columbia Center, if you're driving on Highway 18 listening to the radio for music, do you care about what's going on in downtown Seattle that very second?

There are several points on this:
1. If music radio were to break into programming for every shooting or murder that happens in every city, there would be no music on the radio. Can you imagine Z-100 or WLTW in New York breaking in every time there's a shooting in the New York area? How about KIIS-FM or K-Earth in LA? Fair comparison? Those stations, just as every station in Seattle, are bound by the same guidelines to serve the public.

2. Serving the public does not necessarily mean every radio station needs to be on top of every single event happening in the market. It's en vogue to complain about repetition on the radio. What if every radio station kept breaking into programming, whether it be a simple announcement or detailed coverage of the event? Then everybody would be in here saying that it's all the same thing on every radio station (the similar argument to music always made). We already have something like that, it's called the 11 o'clock news.

3. With no disrespect intended for anyone directly affected by today's shootings, this is not comparable to 9/11. That said, there ARE people out there who don't care about news events. Some of them, believe it or not, would actually like to hear music or some other programming.

I still find it odd to find someone running into a radio discussion board less than an hour after news of the event broke out, and turn it into an issue about live jocks.
 
yoyo205 said:
I agree, if I were listening in my car, and caught wind on something happening... I'd want more info, and would channel flip till I found someone with the info.

That's different. The OP was talking about a quick mention of an event in between songs. You're seeking in-depth information about it, and there are at least two radio stations that filled that niche this afternoon.
 
KRWM did talk about this today, as did KIXI...they both have live traffic (and in WARM's case a live jock). I agree with everyone except AQH. If this happened in LA or NY I would expect every station to break in...With everything going in the Jewish world this event could have been larger than it ended up being. This could have been a terrorist attack and it is unacceptable for radio stations in the area to not address this issue. Radio is a public service before it is a business. LIFE is more important than a music set and if you don't have jocks, thats when you tap into someone at Metro or a TV news partner to take over.
 
AQH I think you're missing the point of the orginal post. I never once said that every station should have live jocks on the air full-time. I just think that the "JACK" type stations around the country should at the very least have someone in house to inform the public should anything occur that could potentially affect some of the listening audience. I am a fan of these types of stations in that I enjoy the ammount of music they play, it's just that I'd like to be informed about anything that may allow me to stay safer. You're right in that it was a localized incident here in Seattle and folks in other surrounding cities could probably care less, but let's just say I work in an office on 3rd ave. and we listen to JACK at work. I think I might go for a walk because its a nice day and all must be well because Jack keeps spinning all those feel good tunes, but to my surprise there is a gunman spraying bullets a block away. I think I'd like to know that first before I decide to head outside.
 
AQH misses ALL the points - venting his comments with 'how-radio-should-be', smart-azz posts...

It's NOW obvious that JACK-FM doesn't even break for ANY local big news item...

E-mail them your gripe at:
[email protected]

THEN tell us what their excuse was...
 
dan_greenberg1500 said:
AQH I think you're missing the point of the orginal post. I never once said that every station should have live jocks on the air full-time. I just think that the "JACK" type stations around the country should at the very least have someone in house to inform the public should anything occur that could potentially affect some of the listening audience. I am a fan of these types of stations in that I enjoy the ammount of music they play, it's just that I'd like to be informed about anything that may allow me to stay safer. You're right in that it was a localized incident here in Seattle and folks in other surrounding cities could probably care less, but let's just say I work in an office on 3rd ave. and we listen to JACK at work. I think I might go for a walk because its a nice day and all must be well because Jack keeps spinning all those feel good tunes, but to my surprise there is a gunman spraying bullets a block away. I think I'd like to know that first before I decide to head outside.

I understand, and more important, respect your point. I understood it from the very beginning. I just simply don't think it's feasbile to do it upon every incident that happens.

Deciding which event warrants a break-in during regular programming would be a tricky thing. Again, what event(s) would qualify? Is it the ones that TV reporters salivate over? What if something happened in a remote area of North Bend, Marysville or Lacey? Do you break in with that as well? What's the barometer in which your break in....number of bodies, traffic congestion, ethnic background of the victims?

My point is that you cannot be everything to everyone.
 
airwaver said:
AQH misses ALL the points - venting his comments with 'how-radio-should-be', smart-azz posts...

Sounds like someone needs a hug. Or a laxative. C'mon down to the Ivar's on the waterfront around 5:30 tonight, I'll give you the former. I'll be the one wearing a t-shirt.

airwaver said:
It's NOW obvious that JACK-FM doesn't even break for ANY local big news item...

E-mail them your gripe at:
[email protected]

THEN tell us what their excuse was...

Why do they need an excuse?

Why don't you stop talking tough on the internet and ask them yourself, dialtwisty? In the same time it takes you to put those scrolling quotes, you can find out for your very own!
 
I think it should be any situation anywhere that could put the safety of a part of your listening audience in jeopardy. Does not include traffic congestion because if you care that much about the traffic, then you should find a station that gives it every 5 minutes. Also most of the news stories that constitute breaking news shouldn't be carried either because most have already happened and don't pose an additional threat to people. But when a gunman is spraying bullets in the 14th largest market and for an hour police don't know if there are other gunman, I'd like to be informed no matter what station I am listening to.

But I do understand where you are coming from...you can't be everything to everyone all the time.
 
dan_greenberg1500 said:
But I do understand where you are coming from...you can't be everything to everyone all the time.

Ultimately, I think we're going to have to disagree on some facets of this, but I hear and respect what you say.
 
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