Status of HD Radio in NYC

[wadio]

I've heard nothing but doom and gloom and dire predictions for years about HD Radio on this board. As of now every one of these predictions has been wrong.

That's the point. HD radio has been around for years and it's still a novelty. The predominant prediction -- that HD Radio would never achieve critical mass -- has so far been dead on.

 

[nd2023]

My parents just got a Scion Xd and that has an HD Radio installed. I really like it, adds alot of choices to the dial.
Since I finally got a chance to see HD radio I bought an Insignia NS-BHDIP01 HD Radio Boombox for only $25 on Ebay.
Great value, although the HD reception isn't as good. Gotta be in the 70 dBu range to hear HD with little static.
I'm in Upstate SC halfway between Greenville & Charlotte, 50 miles to each, and I can get HD ok from both cities.
In the car radio I rarely get HD dropouts.

Just curious, how far down the shore can you hear NYC HD stations? Long Branch? I used to live near Toms River
and I know they likely don't reach that far but I'm sure you'd be lucky to get 94.3 or 100.1's HD down there.

You can get NYC HDs reliably from Sandy Hook to Red Bank, they're choppy after that and gone past Belmar. 94.3 isn't in HD anymore, since they yanked Shore Alternative off the air.

Down south, the stations are 100kw and the HD carries for 60 miles. All the HDs I got on e skip last Tuesday were on 100kw stations. Don't expect 50 mile HD reception here.

 

[RFLA]

If you register, you can check out HD radio in NYC online at globaltuners.com as one radio is a IBOC radio http://www.globaltuners.com/receiver/1163/

I'm from outside the area and have been able to sample many of the hd signals there

 

[nd2023]

If you register, you can check out HD radio in NYC online at globaltuners.com as one radio is a IBOC radio http://www.globaltuners.com/receiver/1163/

I'm from outside the area and have been able to sample many of the hd signals there

I wish I knew how to let my Sony XDRF1HD be remotely controlled on Global Tuners.

 

[R.F. Burns]

I've heard nothing but doom and gloom and dire predictions for years about HD Radio on this board. As of now every one of these predictions has been wrong.

That's the point. HD radio has been around for years and it's still a novelty. The predominant prediction -- that HD Radio would never achieve critical mass -- has so far been dead on.

Analog FM was a "novelty" for well over 25 to 30 years before it gained real traction in the marketplace. It wasn't until AFC technology took hold that FM really started to gain a mobile/portible audience.

 

[R.F. Burns]

If you register, you can check out HD radio in NYC online at globaltuners.com as one radio is a IBOC radio http://www.globaltuners.com/receiver/1163/

I'm from outside the area and have been able to sample many of the hd signals there

I wish I knew how to let my Sony XDRF1HD be remotely controlled on Global Tuners.

There are a few of them there. One is in Montreal, iof memory serve and one was in NYC. Somewhere there, they might have directions on how to allow it to work with Global tuners

 

[wadio]

I've heard nothing but doom and gloom and dire predictions for years about HD Radio on this board. As of now every one of these predictions has been wrong.

That's the point. HD radio has been around for years and it's still a novelty. The predominant prediction -- that HD Radio would never achieve critical mass -- has so far been dead on.

Analog FM was a "novelty" for well over 25 to 30 years before it gained real traction in the marketplace. It wasn't until AFC technology took hold that FM really started to gain a mobile/portible audience.

That's a big stretch! The paradigm shift came when AM/FM simulcasting ceased and new, fresh content became available. AFC may have hastened the process but, c'mon, listeners weren't staying away due to FM drift!

 

[nd2023]

FM actually has an advantage over AM, it sounds better. HD doesn't have an advantage over either AM or FM. It sounds worse, and the signal drops out well within the protected contour. Maybe a separate HD-only band would have had an advantage, there would be enough bandwidth for high quality audio, and the HD signals could travel further than the analog signals.

AM HD can only be reliably received within a few miles of the transmitter in the daytime when there are no thunderstorms within 100 miles and when you aren't under power lines or an overpass. In that same area and well beyond, AM stereo with a full 10khz bandwidth will sound indistinguishable from FM on a wideband AM stereo receiver. Whereas if you're listening to AM HD, it'll drop out every time lightning strikes in the thunderstorm 100 miles away, and you won't think that's the cause of the dropouts because the sky is clear where you are.

 

[Barry]

This morning, the HD2 subchannels on all 5 Clear Channel stations (WHTZ, WKTU, WAXQ, WWPR, WLTW) have been down. The primary HD1 signals are unaffected.
I wonder whether this is strictly for technical reasons, or if CC is preparing some changes in programming for the HD2's.

 

[nd2023]

This morning, the HD2 subchannels on all 5 Clear Channel stations (WHTZ, WKTU, WAXQ, WWPR, WLTW) have been down. The primary HD1 signals are unaffected.
I wonder whether this is strictly for technical reasons, or if CC is preparing some changes in programming for the HD2's.

Last night the HD of all the Clear Channel stations were off the air completely.

 

[Pirate_Jim]

FWIW, I was picking up WHTZ's and WLTW's HD1's & 2's last night in Toms River ..