Just wondering if anyone knows the fate of WIRQ. It was displaced when WMJQ Brockpoart moved to 104.9. Has the school made any effort to find a new frequency for the little class D station? Or is it, like so many other class D FMs, gone for good?
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Bob1370
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> Just wondering if anyone knows the fate of WIRQ. It was
> displaced when WMJQ Brockpoart moved to 104.9. Has the
> school made any effort to find a new frequency for the
> little class D station? Or is it, like so many other class D
> FMs, gone for good?
>
The FCC carries on its books an approved CP application for a move to 94.3 that was dated 1992, but obviously the licensing of "The Zone" (WZNE) to CBS on 94.1 blew that one away.
At this stage it's hard to see anyplace on the FM dial in Rochester where you could squeeze in what amounts to an LPFM signal. You've got to figure WIRQ probably was done in by all the regulatory changes, together with the crowding of the band through the signon of so many drop-in Class A signals through the 80-90 docket.
WIRQ launched a lot of broadcast careers between 1960 and the time it disappeared in the early 90s (most notably for this area, Buffalo's top TV anchor Don Postles). Now, it's WIRQ, RIP.
> displaced when WMJQ Brockpoart moved to 104.9. Has the
> school made any effort to find a new frequency for the
> little class D station? Or is it, like so many other class D
> FMs, gone for good?
>
The FCC carries on its books an approved CP application for a move to 94.3 that was dated 1992, but obviously the licensing of "The Zone" (WZNE) to CBS on 94.1 blew that one away.
At this stage it's hard to see anyplace on the FM dial in Rochester where you could squeeze in what amounts to an LPFM signal. You've got to figure WIRQ probably was done in by all the regulatory changes, together with the crowding of the band through the signon of so many drop-in Class A signals through the 80-90 docket.
WIRQ launched a lot of broadcast careers between 1960 and the time it disappeared in the early 90s (most notably for this area, Buffalo's top TV anchor Don Postles). Now, it's WIRQ, RIP.
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RJones
Guest
A few more WIRQ Alumni Mike Cidoni, DJ and Enginerr Mark Andrus, and Engineer Joe Fleming. I "night" managed the station in 1990 right out of college.
Rich Jones
Rich Jones
Not yet dead!
> WIRQ launched a lot of broadcast careers between 1960 and
> the time it disappeared in the early 90s (most notably for
> this area, Buffalo's top TV anchor Don Postles). Now, it's
> WIRQ, RIP.
It was still on the air last week. I'd check today, but I suspect they're already into their vacation up there.
Several engineers of my acquaintance are working to find it a new home. WIRQ has to be the single most displaced class D station out of all of them - 90.9, 93.3, 94.3 and now 104.7!
(And yes, it did operate on 94.3 for a year or two after WYNQ/WEZO bumped it off 93.3 and before WAQB/WZNE bumped it off 94.3. I guess that never got a license to cover on that frequency, though.)
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> WIRQ launched a lot of broadcast careers between 1960 and
> the time it disappeared in the early 90s (most notably for
> this area, Buffalo's top TV anchor Don Postles). Now, it's
> WIRQ, RIP.
It was still on the air last week. I'd check today, but I suspect they're already into their vacation up there.
Several engineers of my acquaintance are working to find it a new home. WIRQ has to be the single most displaced class D station out of all of them - 90.9, 93.3, 94.3 and now 104.7!
(And yes, it did operate on 94.3 for a year or two after WYNQ/WEZO bumped it off 93.3 and before WAQB/WZNE bumped it off 94.3. I guess that never got a license to cover on that frequency, though.)
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radiomike
Guest
Re: Not yet dead!
Considering that WIRQ is a Class D and has to accept inteference, how far out does its interference countour go, with respect to the 1st adjacent, in terms of spacing? I know it does not make the spacing in terms of the FCC, but perhaps the FCC will let them stay, if the god squader will let them. I would think the other God Squadder at 104.9, the LPFM in Lima, which is getting hammered, and the 105.1 Translator of Family Life, if it is still on the air, would be also likely targets.
Considering that WIRQ is a Class D and has to accept inteference, how far out does its interference countour go, with respect to the 1st adjacent, in terms of spacing? I know it does not make the spacing in terms of the FCC, but perhaps the FCC will let them stay, if the god squader will let them. I would think the other God Squadder at 104.9, the LPFM in Lima, which is getting hammered, and the 105.1 Translator of Family Life, if it is still on the air, would be also likely targets.
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promorobot
Guest
Re: 107.9 could work
If WIRQ, as a class D, can invoke translator contour spacing, I believe 107.9 would work. They are far enough away from The Lake 107.7 that they may be able to squeeze in. It would stink for fans of The Lake near the WIRQ tower. But I think they might be able to squeeze in 10 watts at 107.9.
PTR
> Considering that WIRQ is a Class D and has to accept
> inteference, how far out does its interference countour go,
> with respect to the 1st adjacent, in terms of spacing? I
> know it does not make the spacing in terms of the FCC, but
> perhaps the FCC will let them stay, if the god squader will
> let them. I would think the other God Squadder at 104.9, the
> LPFM in Lima, which is getting hammered, and the 105.1
> Translator of Family Life, if it is still on the air, would
> be also likely targets.
>
If WIRQ, as a class D, can invoke translator contour spacing, I believe 107.9 would work. They are far enough away from The Lake 107.7 that they may be able to squeeze in. It would stink for fans of The Lake near the WIRQ tower. But I think they might be able to squeeze in 10 watts at 107.9.
PTR
> Considering that WIRQ is a Class D and has to accept
> inteference, how far out does its interference countour go,
> with respect to the 1st adjacent, in terms of spacing? I
> know it does not make the spacing in terms of the FCC, but
> perhaps the FCC will let them stay, if the god squader will
> let them. I would think the other God Squadder at 104.9, the
> LPFM in Lima, which is getting hammered, and the 105.1
> Translator of Family Life, if it is still on the air, would
> be also likely targets.
>
Re: 107.9 could work
> If WIRQ, as a class D, can invoke translator contour
> spacing, I believe 107.9 would work. They are far enough
> away from The Lake 107.7 that they may be able to squeeze
> in. It would stink for fans of The Lake near the WIRQ
> tower. But I think they might be able to squeeze in 10
> watts at 107.9.
>
>How about 105.5, the frequency WMJQ gave up? The closest one is in Oswego and WMJQ was at least 3KW. Seems like a 10 watter would work on that frequency.
>
>
> If WIRQ, as a class D, can invoke translator contour
> spacing, I believe 107.9 would work. They are far enough
> away from The Lake 107.7 that they may be able to squeeze
> in. It would stink for fans of The Lake near the WIRQ
> tower. But I think they might be able to squeeze in 10
> watts at 107.9.
>
>How about 105.5, the frequency WMJQ gave up? The closest one is in Oswego and WMJQ was at least 3KW. Seems like a 10 watter would work on that frequency.
>
>
Re: Not yet dead!
> > WIRQ launched a lot of broadcast careers between 1960 and
> > the time it disappeared in the early 90s (most notably for
>
> > this area, Buffalo's top TV anchor Don Postles). Now, it's
>
> > WIRQ, RIP.
>
> It was still on the air last week. I'd check today, but I
> suspect they're already into their vacation up there.
>
> Several engineers of my acquaintance are working to find it
> a new home. WIRQ has to be the single most displaced class D
> station out of all of them - 90.9, 93.3, 94.3 and now 104.7!
>
>
> (And yes, it did operate on 94.3 for a year or two after
> WYNQ/WEZO bumped it off 93.3 and before WAQB/WZNE bumped it
> off 94.3. I guess that never got a license to cover on that
> frequency, though.)
>
> s
I sometimes wonder why 104.9 wasn't allocated to Buffalo, Cheektowaga, Lancaster or Depew (as was 93.7). It's 800k up from 104.1, 400k up from 104.5 and 800k down from 105.7. Back in the day, it seems 104.9 could have been petitioned to the Table of Assignments and fit in reasonably well. Would that have been possible?
> > WIRQ launched a lot of broadcast careers between 1960 and
> > the time it disappeared in the early 90s (most notably for
>
> > this area, Buffalo's top TV anchor Don Postles). Now, it's
>
> > WIRQ, RIP.
>
> It was still on the air last week. I'd check today, but I
> suspect they're already into their vacation up there.
>
> Several engineers of my acquaintance are working to find it
> a new home. WIRQ has to be the single most displaced class D
> station out of all of them - 90.9, 93.3, 94.3 and now 104.7!
>
>
> (And yes, it did operate on 94.3 for a year or two after
> WYNQ/WEZO bumped it off 93.3 and before WAQB/WZNE bumped it
> off 94.3. I guess that never got a license to cover on that
> frequency, though.)
>
> s
I sometimes wonder why 104.9 wasn't allocated to Buffalo, Cheektowaga, Lancaster or Depew (as was 93.7). It's 800k up from 104.1, 400k up from 104.5 and 800k down from 105.7. Back in the day, it seems 104.9 could have been petitioned to the Table of Assignments and fit in reasonably well. Would that have been possible?
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Bob1370
Guest
Re: 107.9 could work
> If WIRQ, as a class D, can invoke translator contour
> spacing, I believe 107.9 would work. They are far enough
> away from The Lake 107.7 that they may be able to squeeze
> in. It would stink for fans of The Lake near the WIRQ
> tower. But I think they might be able to squeeze in 10
> watts at 107.9.
They might have trouble from co-channel WWHT out of Syracuse, a full power Class B (50 kW @ 500 ft. HAAT) located less than 80 miles to the east. And there are two applications for LPFMs in the Rochester area (one in the city, one in Hilton) less than 15 miles away from Irondequoit High.
They're all problematic with relation to WWHT. But IF anything on 107.9 gets authorized in Monroe County, my money's on the Hilton application, which causes the least amount of interference all around. So I don't think 107.9 is a good place for WIRQ to try to land.
> If WIRQ, as a class D, can invoke translator contour
> spacing, I believe 107.9 would work. They are far enough
> away from The Lake 107.7 that they may be able to squeeze
> in. It would stink for fans of The Lake near the WIRQ
> tower. But I think they might be able to squeeze in 10
> watts at 107.9.
They might have trouble from co-channel WWHT out of Syracuse, a full power Class B (50 kW @ 500 ft. HAAT) located less than 80 miles to the east. And there are two applications for LPFMs in the Rochester area (one in the city, one in Hilton) less than 15 miles away from Irondequoit High.
They're all problematic with relation to WWHT. But IF anything on 107.9 gets authorized in Monroe County, my money's on the Hilton application, which causes the least amount of interference all around. So I don't think 107.9 is a good place for WIRQ to try to land.
Re: 107.9 could work
> They might have trouble from co-channel WWHT out of
> Syracuse, a full power Class B (50 kW @ 500 ft. HAAT)
> located less than 80 miles to the east. And there are two
> applications for LPFMs in the Rochester area (one in the
> city, one in Hilton) less than 15 miles away from
> Irondequoit High.
I hear WWHT regularly here in Brighton, and could hear WIRQ as well, at least in the car, on one of their older frequencies, so 107.9 would probably be a disaster.
As far as LPFM in Rochester proper, I can't imagine how they'd approve that and find a frequency for it unless they cleared out the excessive religious translators polluting the educational FM band. Hilton may be easier to swing, but even that is doubtful.
> They're all problematic with relation to WWHT. But IF
> anything on 107.9 gets authorized in Monroe County, my
> money's on the Hilton application, which causes the least
> amount of interference all around. So I don't think 107.9 is
> a good place for WIRQ to try to land.
With Lake Ontario nearby, I wonder if that would hurt 107.9's usefulness for Hilton even more, considering stations carry much further with that water path.
> They might have trouble from co-channel WWHT out of
> Syracuse, a full power Class B (50 kW @ 500 ft. HAAT)
> located less than 80 miles to the east. And there are two
> applications for LPFMs in the Rochester area (one in the
> city, one in Hilton) less than 15 miles away from
> Irondequoit High.
I hear WWHT regularly here in Brighton, and could hear WIRQ as well, at least in the car, on one of their older frequencies, so 107.9 would probably be a disaster.
As far as LPFM in Rochester proper, I can't imagine how they'd approve that and find a frequency for it unless they cleared out the excessive religious translators polluting the educational FM band. Hilton may be easier to swing, but even that is doubtful.
> They're all problematic with relation to WWHT. But IF
> anything on 107.9 gets authorized in Monroe County, my
> money's on the Hilton application, which causes the least
> amount of interference all around. So I don't think 107.9 is
> a good place for WIRQ to try to land.
With Lake Ontario nearby, I wonder if that would hurt 107.9's usefulness for Hilton even more, considering stations carry much further with that water path.
Re: 107.9 could work
> >how about surrendering the 102.1 fm frequencey..
> to some thing worth while.
>
As long as we're tossing around different frequencies, how about 104.3 or 106.3? Yes, those two channels are second adjacent to WDKX and WJZR respectively. but given that both stations are locally-owned, perhaps they would be a bit more sympathetic to WIRQ's cause.
Another option might be to send them back to their original home of 90.9. I know a full power station could never operate there, but considering they are only 10 watts or so, and given that the rest of the non-comm band in Rochester is short spaced already, how much interference would 'IRQ really cause at 90.9. There was at one time a religious translator on that frequency relaying WMHR I believe.
Or, as Mike said, if the K-Love folks don't seem to care about the interference, then just let them be.
> >how about surrendering the 102.1 fm frequencey..
> to some thing worth while.
>
As long as we're tossing around different frequencies, how about 104.3 or 106.3? Yes, those two channels are second adjacent to WDKX and WJZR respectively. but given that both stations are locally-owned, perhaps they would be a bit more sympathetic to WIRQ's cause.
Another option might be to send them back to their original home of 90.9. I know a full power station could never operate there, but considering they are only 10 watts or so, and given that the rest of the non-comm band in Rochester is short spaced already, how much interference would 'IRQ really cause at 90.9. There was at one time a religious translator on that frequency relaying WMHR I believe.
Or, as Mike said, if the K-Love folks don't seem to care about the interference, then just let them be.
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raymond_shaw
Guest
Just Curious
I'm glad they're still operating and I hope they stay on the air in the future.
Just wondering - what exactly makes a station Class D and does the FCC still grant Class D licenses? I noticed when I moved to Rochester the public end of the FM band in particular is overloaded with religious stations. These are all Class D's, I'm assuming - licenses granted in the last decade or 2?
I've read on the internet that Low Power AM groups are petitioning the FCC to set up the expanded AM band above 1600 as a place for proposed LPAM stations. Currently there's not much brodcasting going on above 1600. In addition to the Thruway Traffic relay stations, I've caught a couple Toronto stations and recently picked up(about a half hour before sunset) some station in Michigan running Radio Disney.
Does the FCC currently grant licenses for this high end area of the AM band. Perhaps this might be a place for WIRQ and other schools, religious groups to broadcast off of.
> > WIRQ launched a lot of broadcast careers between 1960 and
> > the time it disappeared in the early 90s (most notably for
>
> > this area, Buffalo's top TV anchor Don Postles). Now, it's
>
> > WIRQ, RIP.
>
> It was still on the air last week. I'd check today, but I
> suspect they're already into their vacation up there.
>
> Several engineers of my acquaintance are working to find it
> a new home. WIRQ has to be the single most displaced class D
> station out of all of them - 90.9, 93.3, 94.3 and now 104.7!
>
>
> (And yes, it did operate on 94.3 for a year or two after
> WYNQ/WEZO bumped it off 93.3 and before WAQB/WZNE bumped it
> off 94.3. I guess that never got a license to cover on that
> frequency, though.)
>
> s
>
I'm glad they're still operating and I hope they stay on the air in the future.
Just wondering - what exactly makes a station Class D and does the FCC still grant Class D licenses? I noticed when I moved to Rochester the public end of the FM band in particular is overloaded with religious stations. These are all Class D's, I'm assuming - licenses granted in the last decade or 2?
I've read on the internet that Low Power AM groups are petitioning the FCC to set up the expanded AM band above 1600 as a place for proposed LPAM stations. Currently there's not much brodcasting going on above 1600. In addition to the Thruway Traffic relay stations, I've caught a couple Toronto stations and recently picked up(about a half hour before sunset) some station in Michigan running Radio Disney.
Does the FCC currently grant licenses for this high end area of the AM band. Perhaps this might be a place for WIRQ and other schools, religious groups to broadcast off of.
> > WIRQ launched a lot of broadcast careers between 1960 and
> > the time it disappeared in the early 90s (most notably for
>
> > this area, Buffalo's top TV anchor Don Postles). Now, it's
>
> > WIRQ, RIP.
>
> It was still on the air last week. I'd check today, but I
> suspect they're already into their vacation up there.
>
> Several engineers of my acquaintance are working to find it
> a new home. WIRQ has to be the single most displaced class D
> station out of all of them - 90.9, 93.3, 94.3 and now 104.7!
>
>
> (And yes, it did operate on 94.3 for a year or two after
> WYNQ/WEZO bumped it off 93.3 and before WAQB/WZNE bumped it
> off 94.3. I guess that never got a license to cover on that
> frequency, though.)
>
> s
>
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promorobot
Guest
Re: 107.9 could work
There were no LPFM's applied for at 107.9. The only two Rochester area LPFM apps were for 97.1 (Rush-Henrietta HS and Metro Justice Inc.) but it was blown away when 3rd adj protections were re-established.
There are two translator apps for 107.9 (FMX and Mars Hill) in Rochester and Hilton. Both are currently frozen by the FCC.
Other posters raised 106.3 and 105.5. Neither would work in Irondequoit because of WJZR 105.9. 90.9 will not work either due to WXXI, unless 3rd adjacent protection is eliminated.
I guess if looks like WIRQ is S-O-L for now. Anyone for LPAM?
PTR
>
> They might have trouble from co-channel WWHT out of
> Syracuse, a full power Class B (50 kW @ 500 ft. HAAT)
> located less than 80 miles to the east. And there are two
> applications for LPFMs in the Rochester area (one in the
> city, one in Hilton) less than 15 miles away from
> Irondequoit High.
>
> They're all problematic with relation to WWHT. But IF
> anything on 107.9 gets authorized in Monroe County, my
> money's on the Hilton application, which causes the least
> amount of interference all around. So I don't think 107.9 is
> a good place for WIRQ to try to land.
>
There were no LPFM's applied for at 107.9. The only two Rochester area LPFM apps were for 97.1 (Rush-Henrietta HS and Metro Justice Inc.) but it was blown away when 3rd adj protections were re-established.
There are two translator apps for 107.9 (FMX and Mars Hill) in Rochester and Hilton. Both are currently frozen by the FCC.
Other posters raised 106.3 and 105.5. Neither would work in Irondequoit because of WJZR 105.9. 90.9 will not work either due to WXXI, unless 3rd adjacent protection is eliminated.
I guess if looks like WIRQ is S-O-L for now. Anyone for LPAM?
PTR
>
> They might have trouble from co-channel WWHT out of
> Syracuse, a full power Class B (50 kW @ 500 ft. HAAT)
> located less than 80 miles to the east. And there are two
> applications for LPFMs in the Rochester area (one in the
> city, one in Hilton) less than 15 miles away from
> Irondequoit High.
>
> They're all problematic with relation to WWHT. But IF
> anything on 107.9 gets authorized in Monroe County, my
> money's on the Hilton application, which causes the least
> amount of interference all around. So I don't think 107.9 is
> a good place for WIRQ to try to land.
>
Re: Just Curious
> I'm glad they're still operating and I hope they stay on the
> air in the future.
>
> Just wondering - what exactly makes a station Class D and
> does the FCC still grant Class D licenses? I noticed when I
> moved to Rochester the public end of the FM band in
> particular is overloaded with religious stations. These are
> all Class D's, I'm assuming - licenses granted in the last
> decade or 2?
A class D station is a noncommercial FM that runs with less than minimum class A (100 watt) power, and which has no protection from interference or displacement.
The FCC stopped issuing class D licenses around 1980. The only D that's left in western NY is WIRQ. Everything else is class A or B1, including a handful of Ds that upgraded to A status (WRUR began as a D, as did what's now WBER.)
Unlike the commercial part of the dial, where a new class A allocation requires a showing of full spacing for a full-powered signal of any given class (6 kw/100 meters for a class A), on the noncomm part of the dial you can shoehorn in even a minimum class A (100 watt) facility, which is how signals like WMHN on 89.3 got squeezed in.
> Does the FCC currently grant licenses for this high end area
> of the AM band. Perhaps this might be a place for WIRQ and
> other schools, religious groups to broadcast off of.
LPAM is a non-starter, politically and technically. The expanded AM band is indeed underutilized, but the FCC's looking for a more efficient way to utilize it than LPAM would offer. (And the LPAM proponents want commercial licenses, without any of the obligations that real commercial broadcasters need to meet, including the use of spectrum auctions and full engineering studies to determine spacing.)<P ID="signature">______________
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> I'm glad they're still operating and I hope they stay on the
> air in the future.
>
> Just wondering - what exactly makes a station Class D and
> does the FCC still grant Class D licenses? I noticed when I
> moved to Rochester the public end of the FM band in
> particular is overloaded with religious stations. These are
> all Class D's, I'm assuming - licenses granted in the last
> decade or 2?
A class D station is a noncommercial FM that runs with less than minimum class A (100 watt) power, and which has no protection from interference or displacement.
The FCC stopped issuing class D licenses around 1980. The only D that's left in western NY is WIRQ. Everything else is class A or B1, including a handful of Ds that upgraded to A status (WRUR began as a D, as did what's now WBER.)
Unlike the commercial part of the dial, where a new class A allocation requires a showing of full spacing for a full-powered signal of any given class (6 kw/100 meters for a class A), on the noncomm part of the dial you can shoehorn in even a minimum class A (100 watt) facility, which is how signals like WMHN on 89.3 got squeezed in.
> Does the FCC currently grant licenses for this high end area
> of the AM band. Perhaps this might be a place for WIRQ and
> other schools, religious groups to broadcast off of.
LPAM is a non-starter, politically and technically. The expanded AM band is indeed underutilized, but the FCC's looking for a more efficient way to utilize it than LPAM would offer. (And the LPAM proponents want commercial licenses, without any of the obligations that real commercial broadcasters need to meet, including the use of spectrum auctions and full engineering studies to determine spacing.)<P ID="signature">______________
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Re: 107.9 could work
> They might have trouble from co-channel WWHT out of
> Syracuse, a full power Class B (50 kW @ 500 ft. HAAT)
> located less than 80 miles to the east. And there are two
> applications for LPFMs in the Rochester area (one in the
> city, one in Hilton) less than 15 miles away from
> Irondequoit High.
WIRQ on 107.9 wouldn't even come close to touching WWHT's protected contour, which runs through the middle of Wayne County.
Remember, WIRQ on 104.7 is co-channel with another Syracuse-market B, WBBS in Fulton. WBBS' protected contour comes considerably closer to WIRQ than WWHT's does.
The LPFM apps on 107.9 (and 97.1) are stalled out by the Congressional ruling that prohibits third-adjacent LPFMs to full-power stations. While there's pressure to change that, I believe a class D with a 46-year track record would still get priority over an LPFM.
As for 105.5 and 90.9, there's some precedent for the grant of a waiver of second- or third-adjacent interference. WHHS in the Philadelphia area was displaced from 107.9 last year by a move-in class A signal on the same channel. The engineers involved in that project successfully got WHHS moved to 99.9, which required waivers from class B signals on 99.5 and 100.3. Those waivers were granted by the stations and approved by the FCC, and WHHS lives. I'm hopeful WIRQ will be as fortunate.<P ID="signature">______________
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> They might have trouble from co-channel WWHT out of
> Syracuse, a full power Class B (50 kW @ 500 ft. HAAT)
> located less than 80 miles to the east. And there are two
> applications for LPFMs in the Rochester area (one in the
> city, one in Hilton) less than 15 miles away from
> Irondequoit High.
WIRQ on 107.9 wouldn't even come close to touching WWHT's protected contour, which runs through the middle of Wayne County.
Remember, WIRQ on 104.7 is co-channel with another Syracuse-market B, WBBS in Fulton. WBBS' protected contour comes considerably closer to WIRQ than WWHT's does.
The LPFM apps on 107.9 (and 97.1) are stalled out by the Congressional ruling that prohibits third-adjacent LPFMs to full-power stations. While there's pressure to change that, I believe a class D with a 46-year track record would still get priority over an LPFM.
As for 105.5 and 90.9, there's some precedent for the grant of a waiver of second- or third-adjacent interference. WHHS in the Philadelphia area was displaced from 107.9 last year by a move-in class A signal on the same channel. The engineers involved in that project successfully got WHHS moved to 99.9, which required waivers from class B signals on 99.5 and 100.3. Those waivers were granted by the stations and approved by the FCC, and WHHS lives. I'm hopeful WIRQ will be as fortunate.<P ID="signature">______________
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Re: 107.9 could work
> There were no LPFM's applied for at 107.9. The only two
> Rochester area LPFM apps were for 97.1 (Rush-Henrietta HS
> and Metro Justice Inc.) but it was blown away when 3rd adj
> protections were re-established.
>
WHen did that happened ?!!? i recall, 97.1 was "filing"
with a "pending decision" but didnt hear any thing more..afterwards..
I even contacted the school, (emaiL) and had no response.
> There were no LPFM's applied for at 107.9. The only two
> Rochester area LPFM apps were for 97.1 (Rush-Henrietta HS
> and Metro Justice Inc.) but it was blown away when 3rd adj
> protections were re-established.
>
WHen did that happened ?!!? i recall, 97.1 was "filing"
with a "pending decision" but didnt hear any thing more..afterwards..
I even contacted the school, (emaiL) and had no response.
R
radiomike
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Re: 107.9 could work
Those applications were dismissed in July of 2003, as were all applications that could not be refiled.
> > There were no LPFM's applied for at 107.9. The only two
> > Rochester area LPFM apps were for 97.1 (Rush-Henrietta HS
> > and Metro Justice Inc.) but it was blown away when 3rd adj
>
> > protections were re-established.
> >
> WHen did that happened ?!!? i recall, 97.1 was "filing"
> with a "pending decision" but didnt hear any thing
> more..afterwards..
> I even contacted the school, (emaiL) and had no response.
>
<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by radiomike on 12/23/05 11:52 PM.</FONT></P>
Those applications were dismissed in July of 2003, as were all applications that could not be refiled.
> > There were no LPFM's applied for at 107.9. The only two
> > Rochester area LPFM apps were for 97.1 (Rush-Henrietta HS
> > and Metro Justice Inc.) but it was blown away when 3rd adj
>
> > protections were re-established.
> >
> WHen did that happened ?!!? i recall, 97.1 was "filing"
> with a "pending decision" but didnt hear any thing
> more..afterwards..
> I even contacted the school, (emaiL) and had no response.
>
<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by radiomike on 12/23/05 11:52 PM.</FONT></P>
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