Status of WRNF 89.5 FM and My Project...

[RDP]

Hello Everyone,

For those wondering, the status of WRNF 89.5 FM, is as follows. It's very apparent, that Satan is doing all he can to keep Moody from building this new radio station, here in Selma Alabama. The local owner just sent me an E-Mail and told me to pray for a breakthrough to happen. He has the CP to build but dark forces are preventing him from building, at this time.

The status of my project is as follows. I am now fishing for a LPFM type station. Hope and Pray that WAY FM or someone like them, will help me get something going. I have contact WAY FM, just recently, to see if they could help me get something started when the next filing window does open.

The Devil has been trying for years to keep Christian radio, off of the airwaves of Selma Alabama.

However, AFR has been able to fight off his attacks and maintain their fine broadcast. They have been here since 1995. Their beginning was rocky and rough but now things are looking up for them.

Hope and Pray that Moody and myself, will soon be able to see our breakthroughs and get something going.

My hometown is possessed with Satan and quite frankly, I am sick and tired of it and want to help run him out.

For those that are still praying for myself and Moody, I want to thank you all from the bottom of my heart.

RDP <><

 

[rbrucecarter]

I don't know why satan would attack a Moody or an AFR station - the ratings and impact will be so minimal.

In your situation - if the Lord isn't making things happen for your endeavor, maybe it is a "wait" or a "no". Personally, I'd get a classic tuner from the 70's, a big yagi, turn into a DX'er - to get Christian radio from somewhere else. Put up flyers all over town on how you did it - in high school antennas were sprouting like mushrooms all over my home town after I told people 330 mile FM DX could be done. I've eaten static for years when local people don't have a vision for my demographic (WCIE Lakeland from 110 miles away when I lived in Daytona Beach). Maybe set up a network of "part 15 stations" among like-minded people in town. Some colleges and small towns have done this very effectively.

 

[RDP]

> I don't know why satan would attack a Moody or an AFR
> station - the ratings and impact will be so minimal.
>
> In your situation - if the Lord isn't making things happen
> for your endeavor, maybe it is a "wait" or a "no".
> Personally, I'd get a classic tuner from the 70's, a big
> yagi, turn into a DX'er - to get Christian radio from
> somewhere else. Put up flyers all over town on how you did
> it - in high school antennas were sprouting like mushrooms
> all over my home town after I told people 330 mile FM DX
> could be done. I've eaten static for years when local
> people don't have a vision for my demographic (WCIE Lakeland
> from 110 miles away when I lived in Daytona Beach). Maybe
> set up a network of "part 15 stations" among like-minded
> people in town. Some colleges and small towns have done
> this very effectively.
>
Thanks for all your suggestions. I may check into them and see which one God is telling me to get involved with, since I have a burden for my hometown and for the spiritual condition that it's in.

I can explain the Satanic attack. Here it goes.

For years now, my hometown and Christian radio have been at odds with one another. Satan has done everything he could to keep my hometown from having any type of Christian programming on the radio. When we had WPCS in the 70s to the mid 80s, that station was very weak and didn't go out too far. It would always pop on and off, since it was an over the air translator. Lighting took that station off in 1987. Moody came along, in 1992, and built another over the air translator. That station went off in 1999, due to another lighting strike. This facility now has a CP to be rebuilt, with 250 watts. So far, no one has purchased this station. I did want to get it but couldn't find no one to help me get it. When AFR came in 1995, the public radio audience did everything they could to get AFR removed. AFR was located at 90.1 and we could get two public radio stations from Montgomery and Birmingham, at 89.9 and 90.3. When AFR was forced off the air, I thought they were gone for good. One Friday morning, a few months later, I tuned to 90.1 and was excited that AFR had returned to the airwaves. Once they returned, they relocated to their current spot, at 91.1. Back in 2003, they increased their power from 250 watts to 21,500 watts and moved to the Browns/Uniontown Alabama area. Back in 1997, Moody filed an App. to build new full powered station at 89.5 FM, with 6000 watts of power. Now here is where Satan began his recent attacks. Reading Service for the Blind, from Memphis, filed an App. for a 6000 watt station, as well. They wanted to locate at 89.7. For years Moody and Reading Service fought for the CP to build. It looked like no one was going to budge and retreat. During that time, little old me, prayed and believed that God was going to let Moody have the CP. In 2005, my prayers were answered and Moody got the CP to build. Now that Moody has the CP, for some unkown reason, Satan has found another way to keep WRNF from seeing the light of day.

I know Moody may not be your cup of tea, Mr. Bruce but to me, if my area of Alabama is able to get any new Christian radio stations, that is a blessing. Where I live, we are spiritually dead and I am praying and believing that God will help bring a real revival to an area that is in serious need of it.

RDP <><

 

[ccmfan]

> > I don't know why satan would attack a Moody or an AFR
> > station - the ratings and impact will be so minimal.
> >
> > In your situation - if the Lord isn't making things happen
>
> > for your endeavor, maybe it is a "wait" or a "no".
> > Personally, I'd get a classic tuner from the 70's, a big
> > yagi, turn into a DX'er - to get Christian radio from
> > somewhere else. Put up flyers all over town on how you
> did
> > it - in high school antennas were sprouting like mushrooms
>
> > all over my home town after I told people 330 mile FM DX
> > could be done. I've eaten static for years when local
> > people don't have a vision for my demographic (WCIE
> Lakeland
> > from 110 miles away when I lived in Daytona Beach). Maybe
>
> > set up a network of "part 15 stations" among like-minded
> > people in town. Some colleges and small towns have done
> > this very effectively.
> >
> Thanks for all your suggestions. I may check into them and
> see which one God is telling me to get involved with, since
> I have a burden for my hometown and for the spiritual
> condition that it's in.
>
> I can explain the Satanic attack. Here it goes.
>
> For years now, my hometown and Christian radio have been at
> odds with one another. Satan has done everything he could
> to keep my hometown from having any type of Christian
> programming on the radio. When we had WPCS in the 70s to
> the mid 80s, that station was very weak and didn't go out
> too far. It would always pop on and off, since it was an
> over the air translator. Lighting took that station off in
> 1987. Moody came along, in 1992, and built another over the
> air translator. That station went off in 1999, due to
> another lighting strike. This facility now has a CP to be
> rebuilt, with 250 watts. So far, no one has purchased this
> station. I did want to get it but couldn't find no one to
> help me get it. When AFR came in 1995, the public radio
> audience did everything they could to get AFR removed. AFR
> was located at 90.1 and we could get two public radio
> stations from Montgomery and Birmingham, at 89.9 and 90.3.
> When AFR was forced off the air, I thought they were gone
> for good. One Friday morning, a few months later, I tuned
> to 90.1 and was excited that AFR had returned to the
> airwaves. Once they returned, they relocated to their
> current spot, at 91.1. Back in 2003, they increased their
> power from 250 watts to 21,500 watts and moved to the
> Browns/Uniontown Alabama area. Back in 1997, Moody filed
> an App. to build new full powered station at 89.5 FM, with
> 6000 watts of power. Now here is where Satan began his
> recent attacks. Reading Service for the Blind, from
> Memphis, filed an App. for a 6000 watt station, as well.
> They wanted to locate at 89.7. For years Moody and Reading
> Service fought for the CP to build. It looked like no one
> was going to budge and retreat. During that time, little
> old me, prayed and believed that God was going to let Moody
> have the CP. In 2005, my prayers were answered and Moody
> got the CP to build. Now that Moody has the CP, for some
> unkown reason, Satan has found another way to keep WRNF from
> seeing the light of day.
>
> I know Moody may not be your cup of tea, Mr. Bruce but to
> me, if my area of Alabama is able to get any new Christian
> radio stations, that is a blessing. Where I live, we are
> spiritually dead and I am praying and believing that God
> will help bring a real revival to an area that is in serious
> need of it.
>
> RDP
>

The reading service for the blind group from Memphis is operated by the one and only Dr. George Flinn. I know in some areas he has sold CPs or apps to Christian stations. He sold his CP for 89.9 in Union City, TN to K-LOVE last year, and at least one to WAY-FM in Colorado. I think Flinn's real intentions aren't necessarily to block Christian stations, but to make a buck off groups that want to really use the frequency, Christian or not, by competing with them for the licenses. In Union City Flinn sold to K-LOVE and it was probably worth it for them to get on the air there. If the FCC had ruled in Flinn's favor, there's a chance he would have sold to a Christian organization anyway.

I know Flinn probably has no intentions other than to make a buck, but in an odd way God has used it to get CCM stations on in some areas.

 

[RDP]

> > > I don't know why satan would attack a Moody or an AFR
> > > station - the ratings and impact will be so minimal.
> > >
> > > In your situation - if the Lord isn't making things
> happen
> >
> > > for your endeavor, maybe it is a "wait" or a "no".
> > > Personally, I'd get a classic tuner from the 70's, a big
>
> > > yagi, turn into a DX'er - to get Christian radio from
> > > somewhere else. Put up flyers all over town on how you
> > did
> > > it - in high school antennas were sprouting like
> mushrooms
> >
> > > all over my home town after I told people 330 mile FM DX
>
> > > could be done. I've eaten static for years when local
> > > people don't have a vision for my demographic (WCIE
> > Lakeland
> > > from 110 miles away when I lived in Daytona Beach).
> Maybe
> >
> > > set up a network of "part 15 stations" among like-minded
>
> > > people in town. Some colleges and small towns have done
>
> > > this very effectively.
> > >
> > Thanks for all your suggestions. I may check into them
> and
> > see which one God is telling me to get involved with,
> since
> > I have a burden for my hometown and for the spiritual
> > condition that it's in.
> >
> > I can explain the Satanic attack. Here it goes.
> >
> > For years now, my hometown and Christian radio have been
> at
> > odds with one another. Satan has done everything he could
>
> > to keep my hometown from having any type of Christian
> > programming on the radio. When we had WPCS in the 70s to
> > the mid 80s, that station was very weak and didn't go out
> > too far. It would always pop on and off, since it was an
> > over the air translator. Lighting took that station off
> in
> > 1987. Moody came along, in 1992, and built another over
> the
> > air translator. That station went off in 1999, due to
> > another lighting strike. This facility now has a CP to be
>
> > rebuilt, with 250 watts. So far, no one has purchased
> this
> > station. I did want to get it but couldn't find no one to
>
> > help me get it. When AFR came in 1995, the public radio
> > audience did everything they could to get AFR removed.
> AFR
> > was located at 90.1 and we could get two public radio
> > stations from Montgomery and Birmingham, at 89.9 and 90.3.
>
> > When AFR was forced off the air, I thought they were gone
> > for good. One Friday morning, a few months later, I tuned
>
> > to 90.1 and was excited that AFR had returned to the
> > airwaves. Once they returned, they relocated to their
> > current spot, at 91.1. Back in 2003, they increased their
>
> > power from 250 watts to 21,500 watts and moved to the
> > Browns/Uniontown Alabama area. Back in 1997, Moody filed
>
> > an App. to build new full powered station at 89.5 FM, with
>
> > 6000 watts of power. Now here is where Satan began his
> > recent attacks. Reading Service for the Blind, from
> > Memphis, filed an App. for a 6000 watt station, as well.
> > They wanted to locate at 89.7. For years Moody and
> Reading
> > Service fought for the CP to build. It looked like no one
>
> > was going to budge and retreat. During that time, little
> > old me, prayed and believed that God was going to let
> Moody
> > have the CP. In 2005, my prayers were answered and Moody
> > got the CP to build. Now that Moody has the CP, for some
> > unkown reason, Satan has found another way to keep WRNF
> from
> > seeing the light of day.
> >
> > I know Moody may not be your cup of tea, Mr. Bruce but to
> > me, if my area of Alabama is able to get any new Christian
>
> > radio stations, that is a blessing. Where I live, we are
> > spiritually dead and I am praying and believing that God
> > will help bring a real revival to an area that is in
> serious
> > need of it.
> >
> > RDP
> >
>
> The reading service for the blind group from Memphis is
> operated by the one and only Dr. George Flinn. I know in
> some areas he has sold CPs or apps to Christian stations. He
> sold his CP for 89.9 in Union City, TN to K-LOVE last year,
> and at least one to WAY-FM in Colorado. I think Flinn's real
> intentions aren't necessarily to block Christian stations,
> but to make a buck off groups that want to really use the
> frequency, Christian or not, by competing with them for the
> licenses. In Union City Flinn sold to K-LOVE and it was
> probably worth it for them to get on the air there. If the
> FCC had ruled in Flinn's favor, there's a chance he would
> have sold to a Christian organization anyway.
>
> I know Flinn probably has no intentions other than to make a
> buck, but in an odd way God has used it to get CCM stations
> on in some areas.
>
I find that to be simply amazing. Thanks for sharing the info.

RDP <><

 

[rbrucecarter]

> I find that to be simply amazing. Thanks for sharing the
> info.

Not just my cup of tea - anybody's cup of tea. Moody and AFR have almost no ratings, and therefore little if any impact. If that was all that was on the air in my hometown, neither would be on my presets or the presets of any kids I know in the church. Both networks are a waste of electricity as far as reaching the lost, because the lost won't listen. Sorry to be so blunt, but I don't think satan would attack because neither is effective.

I have said it before, and I'll say it again:

RATINGS = SALVATIONS = FINANCIAL SUPPORT

 

[RDP]

> > I find that to be simply amazing. Thanks for sharing the
> > info.
>
> Not just my cup of tea - anybody's cup of tea. Moody and
> AFR have almost no ratings, and therefore little if any
> impact. If that was all that was on the air in my hometown,
> neither would be on my presets or the presets of any kids I
> know in the church. Both networks are a waste of
> electricity as far as reaching the lost, because the lost
> won't listen. Sorry to be so blunt, but I don't think satan
> would attack because neither is effective.
>
> I have said it before, and I'll say it again:
>
> RATINGS = SALVATIONS = FINANCIAL SUPPORT
>
That is why I am working hard, on getting a third Christian radio station going. This one will cater to the youth, if I can ever get it off the ground and running. (Possibly WAY FM)

Thanks for being so blunt. I needed to hear that.

RDP <><

 

[gregdymon]

> > RATINGS = SALVATIONS = FINANCIAL SUPPORT

A comment from a bi-vocational minister and a local radio announcer (in Alabama, btw). It is a little hard to quantify ratings for AFR and Moody stations as they aren't normally the audience that would fill out a ratings book in the first place, AND neither syndicator actually "appeals" to a book holder to write their calls/ID into the book either. No contests, no liners that tell the listener to "write it down", no other less than subliminal (and some subliminal) message to the listening audience to participate in the ratings process. One must ask (to some degree) "why?" And I think that answer is because they, unlike NPR and other so-called non-profit groups, are not focused on making a profit as much as they are to educate and inform.... yes, you are correct in assuming that the mass of American citizenry will have nothing to do with being educated OR informed... we're too used to being dumbed down by the media pacifier (TV).

Just an opinion.

 

[neutral_observer]

> It is a little hard to quantify ratings for AFR and Moody stations as
> they aren't normally the audience that would fill out a ratings book in
> the first place,...

Why do you believe that?

I think most would say the exact opposite!

 

[neutral_observer]

> That is why I am working hard, on getting a third Christian
> radio station going. This one will cater to the youth, if I
> can ever get it off the ground and running. (Possibly WAY FM)


Didn't you tell us they already indicated they have no interest?!?

 

[xmusicmatt]

> Not just my cup of tea - anybody's cup of tea. Moody and
> AFR have almost no ratings, and therefore little if any
> impact.


You are saying this on your own but I have to admit, I do listen to the AFR station around here, I have no problem with their programming and some of the worship music on sunday nights is a nice way to wind down the day, I also LOVE rock and CHR but I think AFR and Moody and others have places.

So to say "no body likes it" is totally wrong.. It's no different than the fact I can't stand country or rap music, I understand some like it and there should be places for them to hear that music.


--Matt<P ID="signature">______________
Program Director/Music Director
X Music Online
The X
Today's Best Music
http://www.xmusiconline.com/</P>

 

[rbrucecarter]

> So to say "no body likes it" is totally wrong.. It's no
> different than the fact I can't stand country or rap music,
> I understand some like it and there should be places for
> them to hear that music.

And I am glad that it is there for the people that like it. But with only 20 non-comm frequencies available, I have to wonder if that format is the most effective way of reaching the unsaved with the gospel message? Or could some other format be more effective for the purpose of reaching the lost?

 

[rbrucecarter]

> Thanks for being so blunt. I needed to hear that.

Thanks, too. Usually I get flamed for saying that. From people that don't have the vision for the church of tomorrow (the youth today).

 

[rbrucecarter]

> > > RATINGS = SALVATIONS = FINANCIAL SUPPORT
>
> A comment from a bi-vocational minister and a local radio
> announcer (in Alabama, btw).

Just get somebody who is "non-churchy" to ask your members in your church what they REALLY listen to. The results will really discourage you. Not only are formats like Moody and AFR not reaching the lost, they are reaching very few saved people as well. They might tune in for your preaching show if they miss a Sunday, maybe James Dobson. The rest of the time - 90% of them are listening to secular. Don't believe me - make discrete inquiries yourself.

With only 20 frequencies available for non-comm Christian stations - shouldn't we be going for mass appeal rather than just passively "feeding sheep"?

 

[rbrucecarter]

> I think most would say the exact opposite!

I actually corresponded to the guy programming Moody ten years ago when they were destroying WCIE. He was in total denial - he thought that the teenagers of central Florida would flock to the Moody format, more than the format on WCIE. Totally disconnected from reality. Really sad.

 

[RDP]

> > That is why I am working hard, on getting a third
> Christian
> > radio station going. This one will cater to the youth, if
> I
> > can ever get it off the ground and running. (Possibly WAY
> FM)
>
>
> Didn't you tell us they already indicated they have no
> interest?!?
>
Wow, I didn't think this post would get so many hits. Thanks for all your comments and suggestions.

BTW, I am no longer fishing for a translator. I am now fishing for a Low Power FM station. (LPFM) Maybe, WAY FM can help me get that type of station going.

RDP <><

 

[gregdymon]

> > It is a little hard to quantify ratings for AFR and Moody
> stations as
> > they aren't normally the audience that would fill out a
> ratings book in
> > the first place,...
>
> Why do you believe that?
>
> I think most would say the exact opposite!
>
I believe that because I grew up in a home of listeners to this type of radio, who, when given the opportunity to fill out an Arbitron diary, declined the opportunity outright. This was before I worked in radio,and yet, even then, I knew that it was not a good thing to NOT fill out a dairy.

Secondly, I believe that because of contacts since that time with fellow church members who really don't believe that it matters if they list a Christian radio station in a ratings diary, since they don't need the advertising dollars and, in essence, the ratings.

Finally, I believe they aren't normally the audience that would fill out a ratings diary because they are all to often "too heavenly minded to do any earthly good."

 

[gregdymon]

> 90% of them are listening to secular. Don't believe
> me - make discrete inquiries yourself.
>
> With only 20 frequencies available for non-comm Christian
> stations - shouldn't we be going for mass appeal rather than
> just passively "feeding sheep"?
>

Yes.... and no.

I'll accept, to an extent that 90% of church members are listening to secular radio... NRB is addressing that issue currently with a call for better production, better programming, better announcing/hosting and better transmissions. I do believe that Christian radio (and television) programmers have a lot to do to reach a larger audience.

HOWEVER, I think we need to be careful in our "going for mass appeal." Playing music without objectively paying attention to the lyrics, OR the artist can cause perception problems. (This can go both ways, like, for instance the Alabama Christian radio station that banned MWS and Amy after they hosted a VH1 Countdown show that was sponsored by a beer company - yet, as I grow older, even though I was against the decision, I can see the need to err on the side of caution rather than to just "live with it." - and as an aside, I guess Amy's divorce and marriage to her "long time friend" kinda proved that station's management's point).

I was shocked when Kanye West won an award in a Gospel Music category a few years ago. I was shocked when MC Hammer released "Pray" at the same time he had a song the likes of "Soft and Wet" on the same CD. Working in Christian radio at the time, with the freedom to play "more upbeat" songs, I could have played "Pray" and gotten away with it, but I wouldn't because I didn't want my younger listeners percieving that I approved of the content of other songs on the recording.

So my answer is yes: we need to be more competitive, creative and professional in our approach, but we do NOT need to be more COMMERCIAL in that approach. The Gospel is meant to affect those without that assurance in some mighty strong ways, that's why God chose to use a cross as the tool for submission. Its also why God had Christ to be born as a child... so we could see that He lived on this earth, suffering all the things we suffer, yet, knowing God enough to know that He could rely on His Father to carry Him through it all.

Hope that answers your question.

 

[rbrucecarter]

I agree 100% with your sentiments on compromise. There is so much quality material out there, there is no need to play the questionable material. We have all been "sucked in" from time to time by artists who play Christian, release a Christian song, only to go out and sin the next day in a very public way. All we can do is apologize, take them out of rotation, and go on. I think the audience will have a lot of respect if we are honest that we make a mistake, then go on and do the best we can.

The flip side of this are the pharisees who are going to call every five minutes with some criticism of every artist we play. Its my opinion that THEY are the ones with the problem. The Bible calls them grumblers and they cause divisiveness wherever they go. We are going to lose them as listeners if we don't address their every concern - but could we ever please them anyway?

 

[neutral_observer]

> Hello Everyone,
>
> For those wondering, the status of WRNF 89.5 FM, is as
> follows. It's very apparent, that Satan is doing all he can
> to keep Moody from building this new radio station, here in
> Selma Alabama.

Doubtful. The odds of a 55+ person really coming to Christ are almost zero, and that's just about the only person Moody will attract.

I'm familiar with the inner workings of the board of a station near me that runs Moody programming...with all members but one being in their late-sixties and seventies and Moody programming seeming current to them, they honestly believe that they are attracting "the younger generation" that will be giving money in the future using some Moody programming. They're merely guessing about that, though...they don't buy the ratings, of course, and aren't aware that they usually get asterisks in every age column until they get to "65+."

So, to sum up, little or no impact under 65, and odds of someone coming to Christ past that age are near zero. Why would Satan, himself, care?



> He has the CP to build but dark forces are preventing him from
> building at this time.

Doubtful. Sounds stunningly like Luke 14:28-30...

"Suppose one of you wants to build a tower. Will he not first sit down and estimate the cost to see if he has enough money to complete it? For if he lays the foundation and is not able to finish it, everyone who sees it will ridicule him, saying, 'This fellow began to build and was not able to finish.'"

Of course, I'm using a different definition of "tower," but...

As pastor after pastor, teacher after teacher, counselor after coundelor, commentator after commentator, and theologian after theologian will frequently tell people, don't over-spiritualize everything!



> The Devil has been trying for years to keep Christian radio,
> off of the airwaves of Selma Alabama.

Doubtful. Satan is not omnipresent nor omnipotent and has to pick his battles, so to speak. If you're actually dealing with such a spiritual issue, it's almost certainly with a much, much, much, much, much lower-ranking demon.

The odds are much, much better that you're dealing with a small town with a small population that is poorer and older than average and that probably has too much radio, anyway. In addition, plenty of signals from Montgomery and other places should be rolling in there, too. All of those things go together to make a very unattractive radio market, and you should probably be grateful for what you have.



> However, AFR has been able to fight off his attacks and
> maintain their fine broadcast.

Or they have better engineers and are better capitalized.




> My hometown is possessed with Satan and quite frankly, I am
> sick and tired of it and want to help run him out.

Oh, where to begin on the issues of flawed theology in there?!