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Stephanie Miller & Boston's Progressive Talk

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jane grant

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Stephanie said something today about Clear Channel dumping a Conservative talk format on one of their stations in America for Progressive talk. Did anyone hear which station?

RE: Boston's Progressive Talk

Are they hiring locally?

When are they bringing local news onboard? Anyone know how big the change will be?

Thanks.
 
Little job protection in a format that either doesn't rate or has almost no ratings in one of the most liberal cities in America. The only reason a station would dump a conservative talk format for AAR is because Soros wrote a big check.
 
Well, it is not like the well-funded Salem Conservative talk network is setting the world on fire in conservative markets, either. I don't know of many cities (even conservative markets) where that service shows in the ratings at all.

These talks shows are all circus acts anyway. Its entertainment, regardless of your political leanings. I know people who are liberal who listen to Rush because he is so over-the-top entertaining....it has nothing to do with actually believing what he says.

How many people watched wrestling on TV and KNEW that it was fake, but they got a kick out of the absurd nature of it all.

I think that AA and Salem have the same problem. Lack of "entertainment" value.
 
>>Lack of "entertainment" value.

That could be. It's no secret that WTTT 1150 has had the same kind of trouble getting ratings that WKOXKS
does. Not the best signal, admittedly...but while WKOX and WXKS also don't necessarily have the best signal
either, with a half decent car radio, all 3 of those stations should come in, in most areas. During the day at least.

Hannity might get a half-decent audience on WTTT and he can be entertaining. Trouble is he's opposite
Howie on 'RKO and Graham on 'TKK. Local beats syndie.

See news/talk board for a post I did linking to a Daily Kos piece (with comments) about "why can't Air
America succeed"? Daily Kos is considered one of the prime news/discussion Web sources by the Left,
and just about all of the people on that page do not feel AAR is doing its job...they had high hopes for it
but don't think it has the right hosts.

I don't really listen to AAR/prog talk, but do some conservative callers get in and banter with the hosts?
You will hear the occasional liberal caller on Rush, Howie, Hannity, etc. ("OK, Mr. liberal, what do you have to say"--Hannity) so thus you know some liberals are listening. Are conservatives tuned in to Franken, Rhodes,
Schulz et al, for curiosity value at least?

>>well-funded Salem Conservative talk network

It's possible that the Salem conservatalk stations in Boston, Cleveland, Seattle, etc., don't get ratings but do get some ad business and since things are run off the bird, there's little expenses to be had. Look at the various stations running ESPN/Fox Sports/Sporting News/syndie oldies/Real Country, etc. Some stations
can get talk shows (like Ingraham, Doyle) for low or NO cost so even if they don't get ratings they can still get ad dollars. Not huge, but some.
 
>>The only reason a station would dump a conservative talk format for AAR is because Soros wrote a big check.

True. By now, if a station owner felt libtalk would get big ratings and huge profits, on a big station, they would have done it. What if...?

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NOW! Boston's LEFT end of the dial: AIR AMERICA 680
Marge Clapprood in the morning
Stephanie Miller
Al Franken
The Barry Crimmins Show
Ed Schulz, etc.
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If Entercom thinks that would work they would have done it by now!
 
>>>I don't really listen to AAR/prog talk, but do some conservative callers get in and banter with the hosts?
You will hear the occasional liberal caller on Rush, Howie, Hannity, etc. ("OK, Mr. liberal, what do you have to say"--Hannity) so thus you know some liberals are listening. Are conservatives tuned in to Franken, Rhodes,
Schulz et al, for curiosity value at least?>>>>>

Not sure, but it seems that the "Liberals" that get cleared to go on with Hannity, Rush, etc and the "Conservatives" that get cleared to go on with AA, tend to be
extremeists who make a good punching bag. I listened to Hannity for a week once, and the only "Liberal" that I heard was some poor little flower-child type girl who giggled a lot and talked about "loving your enemies". Hannity talked down to her like a little girl, and then after hanging up, said "see, Liberals live in this 1960s hippie world of flowers and candy". Randy Rhodes took a call the other day from a guy who simply wanted to "nuke Iran and North Korea right now to wipe out all of the evil in the world". Naturally, Randy had a field day.

See, moderates make lousy callers. Not enough fireworks. THey rarely get on. So, you either get the "Sean you are a great patriot" caller or the flower child.

This is why, while occasionally entertaining, talk radio has absolutlely NOTHING to do with a true debate on the issues. No fun (or ratings) in that, right?
 
Could be. Extremes.

I can't say for sure if people change their opinions after hearing talk radio discussion though certainly some call in to SH and say (claim to be) that they've been "Hannitized" after listening to "the other side" (i.e., the conservative side, from him). Franken also may have some who claim to be Franken-ized, who knows.

>>moderates make lousy callers

briefly a station up here ran a host named Alan Nathan who says he's a "militant moderate"...in some ways it wasn't bad
but I didn't hear enough of it (he was soon dumped for John Batchelor) to be sure. The guy said "we want the government out of our bedrooms and our wallets", and his site (just checked it) calls him a "centrist with teeth". Can someone from the "center"
succeed? (Admittedly I have many conservative views but a couple are more moderate or liberal...)

http://www.alannathan.com

(have heard people like Rush say that moderates are kind of like lukewarm soup...you have to either be in one camp or the other. But WBZ/Boston talk host Paul Sullivan, just the other night, was saying "not everyone agrees with the Republicans on every issue or the Democrats on every issue". Some pick and choose.)
 
Couldn't find the station you say Stephanie Miller said switched from Conservative to Progressive - but did find these items in Google:

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KPOJ is a Clear Channel owned station that has recently become an Air America Affiliate. http://www.portlandtribune.com/archview.cgi?id=26823.

According to Pete Sculberg, "Since KPOJ switched from oldies music to the new Air America network last March, the progressive format has made the station one of the most listened-to in Portland, and advertisers are following." Mike Dirkx is the operations manager at KPOJ. He is available to discuss the transition his station has made.

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Another post:


Locally, conservative-talk icon Rush Limbaugh's show has lost 43 percent of its audience among 25- to 54-year-olds in the past year. Sean Hannity's show is down a whopping 63 percent. The shift is serious enough that "we're weighing where these shows fit for us in the future," according to Todd Fisher, general manager at KSTP (1500 AM), which carries both syndicated programs.

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I suggest sifting through Stephanie's website:

http://www.stephaniemiller.com/content/view/216/65/
 
Rush's comments about moderates don't surprise me. Hawkers of red or blue Kool Aid always say things like that.

I consider myself a moderate. Even in my workplace. It is usually we moderates on the staff who settle fights, work out arrangements and plans, and calm things down while the absolutists and extremeists on both sides are yelling at each other accomplishing nothing, beating their chests, and demonizing the opposing view-holders while productivity at the whole company grinds to a halt.

Sort of like Washington, eh?

I suspect that people like Rush don't want to calm things down, because then he would be out of business.
 
I have taken online "political tests" which use 2 axes (as in, plural of axis)--liberal to conservative and
libertarian to authoritarian, IIRC, and found that I was smack dab near the middle. Here in Mass. I refuse
to belong to either party, being Unenrolled aka Independent. If I walked into a room of Democrats and said
"I'm for lower taxes and fiscal responsibility, the death penalty, fighting the war on terror, securing our
borders, etc.", they'd say, get out of here, you far right wing wacko! Then I'd walk into a room of
Republicans and say, "Hi, I support gay marriage and a woman's right to choose, they'd say, get out of here,
you leftist commie pinko!

In the old days I might have been called a conservative Democrat, but that wing of the party seems to have flown the coop. Yet the failure of recent Presidential candidates to win "the solid South" and many of
the so-called "flyover states" (Zell Miller warned you!) shows that the Dems ignore the right side of their
party at their own peril.

And we live in a state (MA) which admittedly has a Republican gov and Lt gov but many other office
holders are Democrat, including all 10 Reps, both Senators, etc. If you see a roll call vote in the paper,
the Legislature looks like this: D, D, D, D, D, D, D, D, R. D, D, R, D, D, D, R, etc.

And I laughed out loud when a Democrat said "it's time to take back this state". Other than the governorship,
the Dems already OWN it!
 
raccoonradio said:
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NOW! Boston's LEFT end of the dial: AIR AMERICA 680
Marge Clapprood in the morning
Stephanie Miller
Al Franken
The Barry Crimmins Show
Ed Schulz, etc.
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If Entercom thinks that would work they would have done it by now!

In Seattle, CBS's KPTK adopted an all-progressive format and it's working so well that in the all-important 25-54 demo:

Thom Hartmann's syndicated show beats Rush Limbaugh
Ed Schultz beats Sean Hannity
Al Franken beats Michael Savage
Randi Rhodes beats Bill O'Reilly and Laura Ingraham

Information from Hartmann's website:http://www.thomhartmann.com/[url] ...Seattle and Boston? KPTK has a decent signal.
 
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