Not sure if Breakaway is RIP,but this new version of stereo tool just rocks.Vast improvement with the new GUI.Take it for a spin and see what you think.Hans did a superb job! Nice audio that plays well.
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Stereo Tool V.7.03
- Thread starter oldiesstation
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Thanks! It does look much more organized. I could never get the previous versions of ST to sound "right." Hopefully, the new GUI will help with that problem.
If nothing else, maybe the new version of Stereo Tool (with a delicious looking GUI) will encourage Leif to spend a little time keeping BBP in the lead (hint hint Leif 
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)Leif has his Omnia deal. That is always going to take priority. I am also quite positive that agreement precludes him from releasing software with the power of 'the box'...
Sounds better on voice than breakaway,much smoother airy mids and highs,too.More controls for the tweakers.Very impressive software.This is a winner.
Unfortunately Stereo Tool consumes more system resources than my poor little XP machine can handle. So for now, I'm staying with Breakaway Live.
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Yes, I can see it already. Hans will develop ST to the level of world class software, only to be hired by Orban or another to develop a high end box that uses the ST software as its core. ST then gets abandoned. Said somewhat in jest but not completely
Those 6 words got my attention. BBP sounds fine on most dry voice but it butchers mine. If there's music behind me, it's fine. Leif had planned on adding some kind of voice sensing algorithm that would alter the gain and/or other parameters when dry voice was present in V2. I'm starting to agree with the forming consensus that BBP V2 may not ever materialize...and that's a shame.oldiesstation said:
ChiefOperator said:Yes, I can see it already. Hans will develop ST to the level of world class software, only to be hired by Orban or another to develop a high end box that uses the ST software as its core. ST then gets abandoned. Said somewhat in jest but not completely
You are probably spot on in that analysis. If it get's 'Breakaway' good or better, he will get snatched up. Leif did the unthinkable. He out programmed the big boys AND sold the product at a beyond reasonable price.
Honestly, I can't believe it took someone that long to go after him...
Both are very good. But right now, to me the biggest differences beteween ST and BBP are that BBP sounds fantastic right out of the box and has a (very) limited amount of controls and therefore a nice GUI. ST has a (very) wide array of controls but there are no really good presets to get you started and even the new GUI is somewhat overwhelming. And yes, ST sounds better on voice but it is much, much harder to get into the sweetspot as a whole.
But ST keeps on being developed bij Hans while BBP seems to be 'as is' at best. If Hans could get someone like Jesse Grafam on board... (someone with real life experience with the art of audio)
But ST keeps on being developed bij Hans while BBP seems to be 'as is' at best. If Hans could get someone like Jesse Grafam on board... (someone with real life experience with the art of audio)
Skill set and great ears come into play when using advanced controls and it may take more tiime to dial it in,but the results will be worth it.At least you have that option.Really like the way voice sounds,best in any software based product i've heard.As far as hardware boxes nothing sounds better than the Air Aura box.Digital but sounds analog!!Meanwhile back to the tweaking..
I think the Air Aura's crossovers/clippers trash up the high end. No matter who I talked to and how I adjusted it, they were smeary. I can spot one of those on the air anywhere. There's a telltale sound of crash cymbals/high hats that makes them sound "phasey" and smeared.
Overall cleanest clipper is in the Omina.11. The 8600 is cleaned up over the 8500, but I personally don't like the placement of the pre-emphasis behind the limiters. That's just a personal taste thing, the highs on both are very clean but the 8600 can sound constricted at times.
Overall cleanest clipper is in the Omina.11. The 8600 is cleaned up over the 8500, but I personally don't like the placement of the pre-emphasis behind the limiters. That's just a personal taste thing, the highs on both are very clean but the 8600 can sound constricted at times.
Actually I was referring to how voice sounded on the air aura and to me sounded better than any of the hardware boxes.But i sure didn't hear any smeared ,as you say,on the high end on the one in Birmingham.I
thought the audio was the best in the market.
thought the audio was the best in the market.
Oldiesstation : I'm playing with ST 7.03 and wondered if you had any idea why my audio is breaking up? The CPU is topping out in the mid 80% range, even with the de-clipper running. It NEVER tops 90%. Is this part of the un-registered crippling? So far, I'm just listening to the composite output on headphones (Marian Trace Alpha card) on a Pentium D 3.4ghz machine (if I understand corrected, that may be dual 1.7ghz cores they tout as a 3.4) Dell. What I hear sounds pretty nice as I try to factor out the pre-emphasis in my mind. The dirtiness doesn't seem to skyrocket quickly as the clipping is increased. Worth noting that when some adjustments are made, the audio stops completely for a second & starts back up...again, with the CPU load never hitting 90%. Any thoughts?
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Very similar breakup issues when I tried to run even an older version of Stereo Tool (Ver. 4) on an older XP machine. Apparently ST is a real resources hog. When I tested both 4 and 7 on a newer Win7 machine, they both worked fine.
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Playing fine for me,not sure what your issue is..Hans has the above forum similar to BBP.He monitors it closely.
Playing fine for me,not sure what your issue is..Hans has the above forum similar to BBP.He monitors it closely.
Thanks...I'll dig into that one.oldiesstation said:
When I originally tried to install Stereo Tool Ver. 7 on the old XP machine, I got some sort of error message and it wouldn't install. I can't remember the exact error, something about SSEZ maybe? Or SSE2? Anyway I got the same message when I tried to install Ver. 4. It was able to install Ver. 4 but it said it was installing in a slightly different mode. In any case, I'm guessing the XP machine is just too old or too low on system resources to handle it. Yet it runs Breakaway Live just fine.
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That same machine runs Breakaway Broadcast reliably--it's bulletproof. But when I tried adding the Hans Declipper, it didn't like that. So you may be right that I'm on the ragged edge. Actually, I have a similar but wimpier machine...a 3.2GHZ single core that runs BBP reliably but the CPU occasionally hits 100%--but it never burps. Talk about living on the edge!Robert Bass said:
Just for the record, I'm using Breakaway Live, not BBP.
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