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WCSB is playing lots of the real thing: Miles Davis, Charlie Parker, Dizzy Gillespie, Wayne Shorter, etc. If you want emphasis on commercial "smooth jazz" like Kenny G, this is probably not the station for you.
Maybe. Maybe not. Ideastream has "Folk Alley" that might benefit from being able to be picked up on regular radios.
They could, and maybe should, have a Smooth Jazz specialty show on the weekends, or something.
Doubt it. Wasn't the whole reason they wanted WCSB was because some mega-donor wouldn't give them the moolah unless they got a jazz format on one of their stations? And they weren't going to dump any of their already "popular" stations just to appease one listener that was demanding jazz.. And if it's only for one person they probably don't care about the ratings unless they're worried about negative numbers and I could only see that happening if people are breaking into homes or cars to change the radio dial to anything but jazz.
Talking Smooth Jazz to a real Jazz buff is like talking disco to a hard rock fan...it can generate some pretty hot responses!
I do give Ideastream credit for offering a buffet of jazz types although some of it is a bit dissonant and avant garde for me, especially in the evening.
The French language CBC Radio 2, Radio Canada, plays an automated mix of jazz at night that is mellow and just right to drink wine to and unwind. There are Smooth Jazz streaming stations, although for me if you've heard one Kenny G track you've heard them all!
If anyone's left who can remember, WCUY 92.3 under PD Chris Columbi, Jr., was one of the best jazz stations around. Like WMMS in the day, the studio was filled with walls of LPs and the DJs could mix and choose the tunes that fit the stylized presentation. And at the same time, Dave Hawthorne was playing jazz all night on WJW 850. Good days for jazz fans.
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Ideastream had/has the Jazz programming on an HD2 channel. I have a friend who works for Ideastream. Said the "mega-donor" was being wrongly tied to the change to Jazz at the radio station. The primary focus of the donation was for a new studio. I presume that to mean a studio where Jazz performances could be done and recorded, and/or for live in-studio content.
different strokes of course...but smooth jazz is a commercial format...it would be like asking WCLV to include Mantovani into their mix
I doubt that would happen...the smooth jazz format is for commercial radio...and it seems to be dying...it doesn't do well with PPM and it has honestly reached the point where those who program it are playing a lot more Sade and almost no David Sanborn et al....even that music tested as "too jazzy" for their listeners.
If there is such an outcry for commercial "smooth jazz", The Wave 107.3 would have never changed format.
That doesn't mean that a non-commercial radio station is not allowed to playing Smooth Jazz. It's not illegal for a non-com to play Smooth Jazz.
of course, it's not illegal...but why would a station put on a show that would alienate core listeners to appeal to a group of listeners, whom even if they DO tune in-aren't going to stick around for the other programming? that's like saying, WHK should put on a few decidedly liberal talk shows and the Catholic station should run a few shows that present the Baptist or Methodist prospective...because...it's all talk, so why split hairs over what kind of talk? JazzNEO seems to be about playing the non-commercial version of jazz...not the commercialized version...there's a difference, which explains why you never heard Duke Ellington or John Scofield or Sonny Rollins on WNMV....
Good points, but having one Smooth Jazz specialty show could be a positive seeing as how that type of music/format has, seemingly, become something only a non-com could air.
I am the chief engineer at WGMC in Greece, a suburb of Rochester. We're a listener supported jazz station (jazz901.org) that does both traditional jazz and runs smooth jazz in some dayparts as well. I'm not sure how much listening is shared across both sub-formats.
Bring back 90s WMJI with it's 50s & 60s oldies format! Ahhh, who I'm I kidding. That's never going to happen on any broadcast radio station.
But today's youth really need to appreciate the talent of such artists from back in the day. No computers, no auto-tune, just pure talent that was needed to get a recording contract. Now the recording industry signs anyone who walks through their doors with no base requirements, which is why we have the garbage that we have now. They might as well pass it off as AI slop at this point.
But today's youth really need to appreciate the talent of such artists from back in the day. No computers, no auto-tune, just pure talent that was needed to get a recording contract. Now the recording industry signs anyone who walks through their doors with no base requirements, which is why we have the garbage that we have now. They might as well pass it off as AI slop at this point.
Not true. I was in St George Utah a while back and there was a non-commercial smooth jazz station that sounded really good.
WCLV aired lighter selections when Wayne Mack hosted the noon program years ago. Not sure if he ever played anything by Mantovani.
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And if you monetize both (Donations of $) it seems you should make more than if you only do one.
that is an interesting thought...it becomes a question of how smooth jazz is viewed...is it just another commercial format that has faded from the dial, or is it something that falls into the category of needed to be presented on non-commercial radio like say jazz, or blues or classical? Looking around the college radio dial, where niche formats often land...I would be hard pressed to think of a show on WRUW/WJCU or the old WCSB that devoted time to smooth jazz. Formats of course, come and go, but that's a format that really seems to have slipped from the dial...do advertisers think the audience has aged out or gotten to small?
I'm lost-what's not true?
WCLV did air Wayne Mack's lighter stuff...but they don't do it now...