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Stories About BUDs (Big Ugly Dishes)

The CanCom channels were in the clear into the mid-1980s, I think. Watched a lot of midweek NHL games on CHCH, CITV and CHAN. TSN was also in the clear originally. All that was scrambled well before CBC, which went to hash early in 2001 and it was time to go to a small dish. But the big one is still there, all 12 solid feet of it, should I get the urge to install a digital receiver and go hunting for signals. (And install motors to move the monster after all these years.)
Hey, did you ever tape any of the wild feeds or strange stuff off the dish? I find all the old '80s/'90s C-Band clips fascinating, as our family never had a BUD. Talk about a lot of 'lost media', especially whenever news reporters or A-list sports personalities would crack jokes, curse and say interesting things during commercials or before they were cued.
 
However, it would have needed some good filtering - CHLT on 7 and CKSH on 9 were sandwiched around WMTW right there on the rock on channel 8.

Actually, I checked using Rabbitears.info, and it would not be line of sight from Mt Washington. And you are quite right, WMTW would have played havoc with it.

Sometimes the highest locations aren't the best ones. For some reason, I wasn't able to get WLOS on Mt Mitchell, I had everything from the Tri-Cities (even WYMT Hazard KY IIRC) to the Triad and down to Columbia, but not WLOS. Mt Pisgah was actually more interesting, it may have been atmospheric conditions that day, but I was getting WTVD from Durham and stations from Macon GA. That was back in analog days, and I used one of the smaller RadioShack VU antennas (small enough to fold up and put in my trunk along with a tripod and mast). The lodge at Mt Pisgah had small UHF loops on the in-room TV sets along with a card that said something like "due to our location, we cannot guarantee any particular stations, but you should be able to get stations from various cities because we are on such a high elevation". They hadn't yet installed a satellite MATV, and this was certainly a low-cost option.
 
I'm sure there were a lot of UHF translators that also made their way to Mount Pisgah and Mitchell as well. There were a bunch in the mountainous communities of NC.
 
I'm sure there were a lot of UHF translators that also made their way to Mount Pisgah and Mitchell as well. There were a bunch in the mountainous communities of NC.

I don't recall getting any of those. I do distinctly remember getting WACH-57 from Columbia.
 
Hey, did you ever tape any of the wild feeds or strange stuff off the dish? I find all the old '80s/'90s C-Band clips fascinating, as our family never had a BUD. Talk about a lot of 'lost media', especially whenever news reporters or A-list sports personalities would crack jokes, curse and say interesting things during commercials or before they were cued.
Not much. Recorded a bit of DX, though.
 
I've heard of cable systems carrying CBC North in the US back when it was in the clear.

I never had a BUD growing up, but my great-grandma had one, along with an old antenna for locals fixed ESE (at the very weak FOX affiliate; that antenna angle also provided solid signals from ABC, CBS, NBC, and PBS). I vaguely remember at least one of the Denver Six being accidentally unscrambled one Sunday afternoon.
 
CBC North was available for a short time in Yakima WA on cable, including the Inuit-language newscasts.
 
I work for a TV station. We have about 10 BUDs behind our building. 😂
All kidding aside, they wouldn’t be of any use to the average person using a receiver from decades ago. I’m pretty sure there are no more analog satellite feeds. I could be wrong though.
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No more analog feeds, you are right. The last one was shut off in 2021 - C-SPAN.
 
I remember reading somewhere that the analog C-SPAN feed only lasted as long as it did -- until November 2021 -- because there were multiple federal government users dragging their feet on modernizing their TVRO installations for digital reception.

I don't know how credible that information was. But simply from knowing that every commercial and private cable system in the country (including all lingering home BUD users via 4DTV) had long since become fully digitally equipped, it was obvious that whatever users analog C-SPAN had remaining, they were people who were only receiving C-SPAN and absolutely no other channels whatsoever -- or else they would have needed digital receivers capable to pick up all those other all-digital channels, making the very need for C-SPAN's continued analog presence moot.

Interesting aside: the exact shut-off date for analog C-SPAN had been designated as November 1, 2021. But whomever it was that was dragging their feet apparently dragged them so heavily, the network had to continue broadcasting in analog past even that deadline. Because analog C-SPAN didn't finally disappear until November 6.
 
Actually, I checked using Rabbitears.info, and it would not be line of sight from Mt Washington. And you are quite right, WMTW would have played havoc with it.

Sometimes the highest locations aren't the best ones. For some reason, I wasn't able to get WLOS on Mt Mitchell, I had everything from the Tri-Cities (even WYMT Hazard KY IIRC) to the Triad and down to Columbia, but not WLOS.
Why were you on Mt. Mitchell?
 
In the mid 80s a man who went to my church had a dish. He said if there was anything I wanted to see I could. I never took advantage. We were way out in the country and I don't know if there was cable yet. An antenna did fine for reception.

I lived next door to a factory that made dishes. While I was in college someone from the company came and talked to my parents before the factory was built.

Also near us was a gigantic factory which I think made cable. You know they were about to do very well.
 
Why were you on Mt. Mitchell?

To see what kind of DX I could get there (and there's a bunch).

It's a publicly accessible site with a large parking lot (where I put up my gear), some concessions, and a short hiking trail to the summit. They also have a small restaurant, gift shop, and a lodge-type room a bit lower down the mountain, with comfortable chairs and panoramic views of the mountains. I'm rather fond of the place, when I can get there.
 
I visited Mount Mitchell in 1997 and had really good FM reception, which included WQHY and the like.
Prestonsburg KY, I'm not surprised. I found that on the parking lot of Mt Mitchell, I had a "fan" that can be described by Hazard KY, Grundy VA, and the Tri-Cities to the north, then east to the Triad stations, down along an arc encompassing Charlotte, sweeping through Columbia, then on up obeying the SC-GA border, then back up through western NC. I'm pretty sure I got Knoxville but I don't recall specifics. Another DXer told me that he'd picked up WKSO-29 Somerset KY from that location. At some point, even at the most advantageous location possible, curvature of the earth is eventually going to have its way, allowing for knife-edge propagation here and there.
 
The Weather Channel was using analog until 2014 to feed the last few WeatherStar 4000/XL Local on the 8s systems in very rural communities.
Most cable networks left analog C-Band between 2003-2006. I think ESPN and TNT may have held out until 2007? 2008?
 
Hey, did you ever tape any of the wild feeds or strange stuff off the dish? I find all the old '80s/'90s C-Band clips fascinating, as our family never had a BUD. Talk about a lot of 'lost media', especially whenever news reporters or A-list sports personalities would crack jokes, curse and say interesting things during commercials or before they were cued.
During that time at the TV station I found a feed of ABC's Sam Donaldson sitting at a desk. That was all.
 


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