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Strike Two for Howie Carr. What's next?

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Things aren't looking too good for Howie right now. He might have to decide if he wants to work for a company he hates or 'get outta the business'.

I hate to see Entercom win this one. They've gone out of their way to destroy a good talk station and I'd like to see them suffer for it.

Herald Report is here...
http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/news/messenger/
 
Agreed about Entercom though I miss Howie's show and would have to grudgingly listen to it on WRKO
should he return. (Apparently this is a big stakes case for Entercom; he must bring in a lot of $$$ for them
or otherwise they'd just say, ah screw it, go to WTKK, see if we care)

What are options? Return to WRKO; stop doing radio; go to WTKK anyway and risk a lawsuit (most
certain to come) from Entercom; appeal to higher court (where?). Note that one of the articles
mentioned that WRKO would have to conform to the higher offer he got from a "competing radio
station") What's that mean--WRKO gives Howie mornings? Those performance incentives?
 
Additionally, is this ruling stating that Howie is being forced to accept the Entercom offer? Forced?

—Howie contract was due to end 9/19/07
—Howie announces Greater Media gave him an offer
back in July
—Entercom matches the offer (allegedly)
—The judge rules that Entercom is entitled to match
the offer—and it’s implied _Howie is being forced to
accept it_! He can’t just say, OK, but no thanks? Thus
he is forced to extend his contract another 5 years
for an employer he doesn’t want to work for.

What does he do now—say something nasty on the air
and get fired? Then he can join WTKK?
 
I think if I were in Howie's shoes right now my tactic would be to sour the sponsers. If nobody will advertise on the show than there is no reason that WRKO would want keep the contract and pay him a lot of money. He should go out of his way to let people know that Howie Carr + WRKO = slavery. I don't think advertisers would want their products associated with that.
 
Yes, and he could continue the sit-out (unless a judge forces him back to work!). After a few
months the Not The Howie Carr Show's ratings would dwindle, as would Entercom's earnings.
 
ADC said:
I think if I were in Howie's shoes right now my tactic would be to sour the sponsers. If nobody will advertise on the show than there is no reason that WRKO would want keep the contract and pay him a lot of money. He should go out of his way to let people know that Howie Carr + WRKO = slavery. I don't think advertisers would want their products associated with that.
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Although this plan may seem to be workable, it is also very dangerous. Because souring the sponsors generally involves saying or doing things that would also sour other potential employers. And, his new bosses would certainly want to woo some of those sponsors over the there side with him.

No, though this may sound fine in theory (and would make for some fun listening), it is a bad, bad idea.

Like everyone else, I do wonder how he would sit down in that chair at Entercom after all that has transpired. That would be pretty tough to do - yet that is the way that every ruling has pointed. Whatever the eventual outcome (which is looking more and more like WRKO after all), I know plenty of people who will tune him in again when (if) he does sit in that chair.
 
True re: souring the sponsors.

He wouldn't be happy to have to return to 680 but even under the terms of his former contract--to quote a Howie-ism--
he would still have "790,000 reasons to be happy, and all of them have George Washington's
picture on them".

The money will be there for Howie but he still would be upset at working for The Felon's station...
getting pre-empted for sports...signal fade at sunset for some...having to work afternoons when
he'd prefer mornings.. etc.
 
raccoonradio said:
Yes, and he could continue the sit-out (unless a judge forces him back to work!). After a few
months the Not The Howie Carr Show's ratings would dwindle, as would Entercom's earnings.
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you just keep pushing savewrko's garbage around by ignoring the facts of the case.

the judge had already said in the first ruling that carr can't forced to work for entercom if he doesn't want to
but the contract extension was legal and kicked in as a provision in his contract which his awyers obviously didn't read very carefully.

what the judge is saying is that carr remains under contract to wrko but if he wants to get out of it, he and the
station need to come to an agreement on how to end it.($$$, a box of donuts or a handshake) the court is not going to get involved and help howie with this one because it's a valid contract as it stands. that's what the judge pretty much said today and a month ago.
 
Howie can return to RKO afternoons,,,,,he can call Grace Ross a fat lesbian and fat Matt a ******, that should get him fired, leaving him open to move to TKK! Hey, it worked for Depetro........ ;D ;D
 
Hmm... could that happen...?

http://www.bostonradiowatch.com says Carr's absence from WRKO (if extended; no show at all
for Howie, on either station) might not hurt Entercom in the long run (or short term) because
ad buys are package deals and they can still earn big bucks for putting spots on sister
station WEEI.
 
I imagine that Howie's lawyers are already appealing to the state Appellate Court if his case was not heard at the level or ask for his case to go directly to the SJC.

Question? If WRKO says its contract with Howie Carr is in effect then he must be getting paid...for not working.

Who would have believed that Howie Carr would end up with a "No Show Job" ! ;)
 
More from the Herald. Basically Howie shoulda waited till Sep 20 and taken the GM offer then:

http://bostonherald.com/news/regional/general/view.bg?articleid=1038426

"“He could simply have waited until September 20, 2007, by which time his agreement with Entercom would have expired. Carr cannot now say that what he did had no legal effect under the agreement that he signed with Entercom five years earlier,” van Gestel wrote in today’s memo. "And he cannot now twist the language of that agreement to mean something that it does not."

But a good point: shouldn't Howie be getting paid right now by 'RKO? His contract IS in effect. Or is
Howie saying "no thanks" to the paychecks as he feel he's no longer an Entercom employee?
"No show job"? :))

Herald pic of Howie entering the courtroom yesterday
http://multimedia.heraldinteractive.com/images/16e4505481_ltpcarrcourtroom.jpg
 
OMG! Did anyone else hear that exchange a few minutes ago between a caller, Todd and Sandy? The caller asked Todd "where's Howie" Todd says, I don't know where he is, hey Sandy have you seen Howie? Sandy answers,,,he's gone to North Carolina to see his father,,,he's on vacation. HUH?????????? What kind of BS is this?
 
First of all...Without a transmitter, there is no Howie Carr Show.

Now then,

He had no right to negotiate with another company while still under contract. The right (and legal) thing to do was to inform the suitor that he was under contract, and thank them for the offer, and refer them to his agent/representative to find out when the contract was due to expire.

Howie is in the wrong here. Sorry to break it to you all. Entercom held right of first refusal. Howie signed the deal willingly, and with the knowledge that he was in violation of his current work agreement if he were to negotiate with anyone without giving Entercom the right to match...which they've chosen to do.

Were I Howie, I'd be thrilled at my new raise. Is Greater Media's money any more green than Entercom's?

He's set to be paid some great money...and he gets to sleep in. Win-Win for everyone. It is only his enormous ego that precludes him from enjoying his new deal, and continues the misery that is his life. Can't blame Entercom for his stupidity. Entercom was well within their right to enforce him to abide by the stipulations that he himself agreed to when he signed the deal in the first place. Although I've never ever heard Howie take responsibility for any error in himself. In Howie's mind, he's never done wrong.

Morning $$$ to do Afternoons...How many of you would pass on the deal he's got in front of him?

The answer is none.

Howie's his own worst enemy. Always has been. He's great at his gig...just ask him.

A wise PD once told me...EVERY talent has their importance about 20% overrated.
 
Well, Howie would certainly be fun to listen to on RKO calling Julie "The Executioner" Kahn and "Little Me" side kick exactly what they are.

How much of that can they take. Howie has the power of the mic and the pen.

Better to buy out his contract.
 
The money will be there for Howie but he still would be upset at working for The Felon's station...

Tough. He can always retire.

getting pre-empted for sports...

Too bad. I can't believe that anyone is still buying that crap about how upset he was over losing that last half hour. Actually, I can believe it, because obviously somebody still does.

signal fade at sunset for some.

You mean the signal was different when he signed the contract with the match provision?

..having to work afternoons when he'd prefer mornings.. etc.

Ummm...you mean the hours were different when he signed the contract with the match provision?

Rac, let me give you a heads-up. If it were you having this dispute, Howie would be the first to tell you that you knew what you were doing by signing the original deal, screwed yourself by opening your mouth, and to quit whining and just suck it up and deal with it. Why you want to carry water for his guy, a victim of his own greed and vindictiveness, is just ridiculous.

Regards,
TSB
 
agreed that Carr's ego is enormous. Talent "on loan from God"? How about the talent that God dropped on the floor...God's bread crumbs!

At first it looked like Carr wanted some publicity - which he now has. But that publicity - mostly in the Herald or buried in the back pages of The Boston Globe - and on this radio board - is not national, nor is it a big story here. Goes to show how bad radio is in New England that someone with big numbers is just an "insider" story. Jacobsen & Curtis was news - Carr is ... ho hum, something for the radio board.

If he didn't work at The Herald it wouldn't be as much of a story (for them) either.

The Herald is the big loser here, a paper with a small audience losing its biggest on air forum.

No matter how badly Carr screws this up - his anger at The Red Sox nipping at his little program, the bottom line is he is getting big bucks whichever station gets the show - he's just being greedy. (which TS Bench posted exactly the same moment I said it, pre-edit).

TS Bench has a good point, Raccoon, about how Howie would cite your handling of negotiations with WMWM for 800 large...if if if only...
 
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