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STUPID CD 101.9 NEVER STREAMED!!

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tsjclkt362

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WHY THE HECK DID CD 101.9 CHANGE FORMAT WITHOUT EVEN STREAMING???! THERE ARE LIKE NO CD STATIONS WITH THAT SLOGAN STREAMING! I NEVER EVEN HEARD THIS STATION! I WANTED TO LISTEN TO THIS STATION FOR OVER A DECADE NOW! I HATE EMMIS SO MUCH!!! THEY SHOULDN'T EVEN BE A BROADCAST COMPANY FOR NOT EVEN STREAMING ONLINE WHERE I CAN'T HEAR THEIR STATIONS!!!! IF IT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH RIAA, CRB, AND THE LIKE THEY WILL CERTAINLY HEAR ABOUT THIS!!! I LISTEN TO STREAMING RADIO EVERY NIGHT!!! WHY ARE THEY NOT STREAMING NOW??? THEY STILL AREN'T EVEN WITH THE NEW STATION!!
 
tsjclkt362 said:
WHY THE HECK DID CD 101.9 CHANGE FORMAT WITHOUT EVEN STREAMING???! THERE ARE LIKE NO CD STATIONS WITH THAT SLOGAN STREAMING! I NEVER EVEN HEARD THIS STATION! I WANTED TO LISTEN TO THIS STATION FOR OVER A DECADE NOW! I HATE EMMIS SO MUCH!!! THEY SHOULDN'T EVEN BE A BROADCAST COMPANY FOR NOT EVEN STREAMING ONLINE WHERE I CAN'T HEAR THEIR STATIONS!!!! IF IT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH RIAA, CRB, AND THE LIKE THEY WILL CERTAINLY HEAR ABOUT THIS!!! I LISTEN TO STREAMING RADIO EVERY NIGHT!!! WHY ARE THEY NOT STREAMING NOW??? THEY STILL AREN'T EVEN WITH THE NEW STATION!!

Wow you sure are pissed nobody streams..If youre in the NYC market,whats the big deal?
 
That's just the thing. I'm not in the NYC market so I could NEVER hear it!

gumbyandpokie999 said:
tsjclkt362 said:
WHY THE HECK DID CD 101.9 CHANGE FORMAT WITHOUT EVEN STREAMING???! THERE ARE LIKE NO CD STATIONS WITH THAT SLOGAN STREAMING! I NEVER EVEN HEARD THIS STATION! I WANTED TO LISTEN TO THIS STATION FOR OVER A DECADE NOW! I HATE EMMIS SO MUCH!!! THEY SHOULDN'T EVEN BE A BROADCAST COMPANY FOR NOT EVEN STREAMING ONLINE WHERE I CAN'T HEAR THEIR STATIONS!!!! IF IT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH RIAA, CRB, AND THE LIKE THEY WILL CERTAINLY HEAR ABOUT THIS!!! I LISTEN TO STREAMING RADIO EVERY NIGHT!!! WHY ARE THEY NOT STREAMING NOW??? THEY STILL AREN'T EVEN WITH THE NEW STATION!!

Wow you sure are pissed nobody streams..If youre in the NYC market,whats the big deal?
 
tsjclkt362 said:
WHY THE HECK DID CD 101.9 CHANGE FORMAT WITHOUT EVEN STREAMING???!

Streaming in NY does not add to the ratings of a station, and can actually reduce them. The out of market audience is nice, but not profitable. To blame; AFTRA.
 
DavidEduardo said:
tsjclkt362 said:
WHY THE HECK DID CD 101.9 CHANGE FORMAT WITHOUT EVEN STREAMING???!

Streaming in NY does not add to the ratings of a station, and can actually reduce them. The out of market audience is nice, but not profitable. To blame; AFTRA.

Then Id like to know why so many stations do it?
 
tsjclkt362 said:
WHY THE HECK DID CD 101.9 CHANGE FORMAT WITHOUT EVEN STREAMING???!



Exactly...they flipped because they didn't stream. It took them 20 years to figure it out, but thankfuly they did.
Had they streamed, the odd listener in Seattle or Allentown that listened surely would have made it worthwhile to stick to Smooth Jazz.

On another note.....I'd love to see 101.9 go back to WPIX and flip every month!!! That'd be cool.
 
sorry everyone I guess I should be contacting the station directly about this as this isn't going to do much good. now i probably made a fool out of my myself here

i notice a lot of stations that do flip lately dont stream but most have been formats i didnt even care for in the first place.
 
DavidEduardo said:
tsjclkt362 said:
WHY THE HECK DID CD 101.9 CHANGE FORMAT WITHOUT EVEN STREAMING???!

Streaming in NY does not add to the ratings of a station, and can actually reduce them. The out of market audience is nice, but not profitable. To blame; AFTRA.

Probably because they feel it builds brand loyalty or attracts people to the station website.

Unless a stream is 100% identical to the on-air signal, Arbitron considers it a separate station. Since stations generally have to avoid, per client orders, running AFTRA talent voiced commercials on the web stream, seldom is a stream 100% identical, so the listenership is not added to the on air signal and the "main" station does not benefit. In fact, if someone finds it easier to listen on the web, such as at work, the station may lose ratings from streaming.
 
Emmis is really frugal when it comes to streaming stations. The only station they stream to date is Movin 93.9 out of L.A., if not a handful of stations.
 
DavidEduardo said:
Probably because they feel it builds brand loyalty or attracts people to the station website.

Unless a stream is 100% identical to the on-air signal, Arbitron considers it a separate station. Since stations generally have to avoid, per client orders, running AFTRA talent voiced commercials on the web stream, seldom is a stream 100% identical, so the listenership is not added to the on air signal and the "main" station does not benefit. In fact, if someone finds it easier to listen on the web, such as at work, the station may lose ratings from streaming.

Thanks for that explanation, David.

I am a transplanted North/Central Jerseyan (What exit? Yeah, I know...14C, then 12) and I've occassionally streamed WCBS-AM, NJ 101.5 and WABC (on Saturday Nights). So far I've found the experience to be somewhat uneven. I do have broadband but even so there are drops, skips and "pauses" (some lasting quite a while). NJ 101.5 seems to have about the best "signal" but perhaps that's a function of the number of net "listeners"-- I doubt it's anywhere near 'CBS or 'ABC.

Here in the Rochester area where I live now, a number of stations stream. The only one our family listens to regularly in that way is WXXI-AM, the NPR outlet. The other one I've tried drops content and even entire songs, replacing them with "we'll be right back." (Clearance issues, perhaps?)

When I really need a smooth jazz fix, I'll stream KKSF San Francisco. However, I've found that they're not what they used to be in terms of music selections. It seems to me that there is plenty of commercial swapping going on there, to David's point. Just as well since I doubt I'll be buying my next car from Lexus of Serramonte (even though I do know where it is).

That may be the point with the (un)attractiveness of streaming outside the local market... who's going to travel from points beyond to patronize the local advertisers?

At any rate, while I'm typing this, I'm listening to is my iTunes, which has a deeper and broader playlist than anything out there (~6850 songs and I'm only up to "Stewart, Rod" in pulling in my CDs). Streaming aside, this is the larger issue for radio of all types... and I'm in the demographic that remembers Top 40 on AM, not the "young whipper snappers"...

Cheers,
George in Ellison Park, NY
 
DToTheJ said:
Emmis is really frugal when it comes to streaming stations. The only station they stream to date is Movin 93.9 out of L.A., if not a handful of stations.

The Emmis station in Austin with the same AAA format as NYC also streamed...So why wait, start streaming!
 
The emmis AAA station in Austin is KGSR a very unique AAA and nothing like 101.9 in NY.
 
DToTheJ said:
Emmis is really frugal when it comes to streaming stations. The only station they stream to date is Movin 93.9 out of L.A., if not a handful of stations.

actually this is not quite true Emmis has 16 of their Maybe 21-23 stations streaming

only their BIG Stations are not streaming

Hot97 987Kiss 101.9rxp Power 106 Hot93.3 and 1 called Bob fm can't remember it's numbers now I think the rest stream
 
htowler said:
DToTheJ said:
Emmis is really frugal when it comes to streaming stations. The only station they stream to date is Movin 93.9 out of L.A., if not a handful of stations.

actually this is not quite true Emmis has 16 of their Maybe 21-23 stations streaming

only their BIG Stations are not streaming

Hot97 987Kiss 101.9rxp Power 106 Hot93.3 and 1 called Bob fm can't remember it's numbers now I think the rest stream

Q101 (alternative) in Chicago doesn't stream either.
 
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