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Stupor Talk FM 96.5

I just tuned into this sorry new station. I just heard one of those mammoth 4-minute commercial breaks before it went back to Bill O'Reilly's right-wing rants.

I can tell this station's going to go from a 3 share to a 0.8 share.

This makes only, what, 3 or 4 right-wing talk stations in this market now?

And I guess that's why they call it Stupor Talk FM 96.5... (Sung to the tune of "I Guess That's Why They Call It The Blues.")
 
NoWayNoCC said:
I just tuned into this sorry new station. I just heard one of those mammoth 4-minute commercial breaks before it went back to Bill O'Reilly's right-wing rants.

I can tell this station's going to go from a 3 share to a 0.8 share.

This makes only, what, 3 or 4 right-wing talk stations in this market now?

And I guess that's why they call it Stupor Talk FM 96.5... (Sung to the tune of "I Guess That's Why They Call It The Blues.")


Cumulus did the same thing in Houston, TX with KFNC. "Supertalk 97.5". Take a look at KFNC in the arbitron ratings for Houston. I don't understand why they brought you a Supertalk if they already tried it in Market #6, and it didn't work (they're flipping it to ESPN in Jan.).

Seriously. What the hell is wrong with Cumulus?
 
newschoolrocker said:
Seriously. What the hell is wrong with Cumulus?

I don't know, but it's obvious they didn't learn from the mistakes they made in Houston.

I think it's time they put the 1996 telcom law to rest. The state legislatures need to step in and start introducing ownership caps, if the FCC won't do it.

Everyone talks about how we shouldn't do this because every market had 3 AC stations before 1996. Well, almost every market has just as many right-wing talk stations now. And we still have 3 AC's (if you count hot AC).
 
I decided to listen to mancow this morning. If I did not know it was mancow I would think it was howard stern if I did not listen closely. His voice sounds alot like Howard Sterns to me. Does his voice sound simular to Howard Stern to you? I liked the guest that was on when I was listening it was Air Supply.
 
Why dont all you guys drop the dumb screen names. That would be real fun. Lets see who has real balls.
 
gr8oldies said:
State legislatures have absolutely no power to legislate ownership caps.

Quite the contrary, they do. This was possibly debatable 20 years ago, but certainly not now, as the federal government has intentionally neglected one of its duties.
 
Sorry, radio waves cross state lines and the states have no authority to legislate ownership caps. The courts would astrike any attempt down immediately.
 
Guys, you realize you're trying to talk to Bandit, don't you? ::)

Ok, I'll try it, too. I guess I'm a masochist.


First of all, Bandit, there is no Republican dictatorship in Florida or anywhere else. The very principles that make one a Republican are freedom and liberty and are directly opposed to any kind of dictatorship; dictatorships are the exclusive property of the left -- the socialists, the communists, their American Democrat brothers, and so on who populate a self-anointed ruling class that acts in its own interest rather than freeing people to act in theirs.

Second, if Florida did pass a law against pirate radio, there is no issue or conflict -- pirate radio is against federal law, too. If Florida did it, it's because it wanted a way to deal with the huge pirate problem there in its own courts ASAP.

Familiarize yourself with what's going on in Florida, and you'll understand why fast action there is an absolute necessity.
 
LocalGuy said:
The very principles that make one a Republican are freedom and liberty and are directly opposed to any kind of dictatorship; dictatorships are the exclusive property of the left

I guess you haven't been paying attention to what the Republicans and the Right have been doing to America the past 25 years then.

If Florida did it, it's because it wanted a way to deal with the huge pirate problem there in its own courts ASAP.

What "huge pirate problem"?
 
Well, it's not only pirates (though there are many in the state of Florida).

There are many stations from Cuba and elsewhere that operate well above the type of power allotted to U.S. radio stations (especially AM stations). I have been told that there are many 5 KW AM nighttime stations in Florida whose "effective" coverage is limited to a few miles at best. Sad, because there's really nothing that can be done about this.

And, I am totally behind any effort, state or federal, to shut down "pirates" who feel it's their right to put a station on the air anywhere, regardless of who they interfere with just to pollute the airwaves. (And most pirates I've heard seem solely concerned with airing music and language that, by radio regulations, would be considered obscene or indecent.) I'm not against LPFM's or LPAM's. Just do it legally and follow the rules.
 
Cumulus didn't do that well with FM talk in Houston. After trying for a year or so, they flipped to ESPN. There's no talk background in the Cumulus culture as there is with Clear Channel (those snippets of remaining Jacor DNA). The Dickeys won't spend to get the required talent and knowledge base, and other than Dave Ramsey, they don't control any syndication product. Is there any chance they can make an impact with 96.5 with all these negative factors??
 
NoWayNoCC said:
LocalGuy said:
The very principles that make one a Republican are freedom and liberty and are directly opposed to any kind of dictatorship; dictatorships are the exclusive property of the left

I guess you haven't been paying attention to what the Republicans and the Right have been doing to America the past 25 years then.

Sure I have. That's me. We've been working to free the American people from a government that's gotten too big and oppressive such that they can be as good as they can be.


If Florida did it, it's because it wanted a way to deal with the huge pirate problem there in its own courts ASAP.

What "huge pirate problem"?
Florida has many, many pirates.

Mainly from central Florida south, Florida has many, many pirates. The Miami/Fort Lauderdale area sees the most, typically with as many as a dozen on the air. There are a few doing what you and I would consider "normal" formats (with such a high number of variations of Latin and urban stations, "normal" formats aren't going to get on the air there). There are a number in different languages (if my particular Spanish, Cuban, or Carribean dialect isn't represented, by golly I'm going on the air). Mainly, though, there's a whole bunch of hardcore rap (as if the market's number of similar stations somehow isn't providing enough). And there's a funny thing about those hardcore rap stations: they're often connected to or the products of various gangs, and those gangs are walking into local businesses and "strongly encouraging" owners to "buy advertising" on the "stations." Extortion.

In addition, there's a significant risk to air traffic in the area. South Florida has, in air traffic terms, something like eight or ten airports really close together with complex arrival and departure routes to and from each of their runways invisibly making their way through the sky (I've seen a 6' x 6' 3-D model of it. It was utterly fascinating and took me over a half-hour to follow all the routes to see where they came from and went.). To absolutely successfully make its way through this airspace (and others; I imagine the northeast and other areas are equally busy), an aircraft simply must depend on its instruments, instruments which operate in the frequency space just above the FM band. The crap transmitters pirates use often have trouble staying on a frequency and can shoot spurs and harmonics out into frequencies planes are depending on for navigation and communication.

And another thing about air traffic in south Fla: Miami International Airport sees a huge amount of international arrivals and departures, both passenger and cargo. For the most part, the planes are fine and are operating with the same level of avionics that you find in our planes, but that's not always the case. Many of the cargo airlines and some of the passenger carriers from the islands and some places in South America are flying really old stuff. I'm talking as far back as DC-3s and the like (although I think I remember reading no DC-3 is in commercial service anymore). Watching planes go in and out of that airport can be both a geography and history lesson in one. So do you want these ancient planes flying around over your head and having their navigation screwed with?




KevinFodor said:
Well, it's not only pirates (though there are many in the state of Florida).

There are many stations from Cuba and elsewhere that operate well above the type of power allotted to U.S. radio stations (especially AM stations). I have been told that there are many 5 KW AM nighttime stations in Florida whose "effective" coverage is limited to a few miles at best. Sad, because there's really nothing that can be done about this.

That's true, Kevin. Many years ago, I was talking with the then-engineer of WINZ/Miami. He was very happy with how they got out in the day with 50,000 watts, but he thought they might as well shut down at night - their 10,000 watts couldn't be heard in the vast majority of the market. I believe their night pattern has changed since then to help with the problem they had (I believe it was a tight east-west back then) and this might not make sense looking at a map today, but I remember him saying something like "We've got about a dozen condo high-rises in North Miami Beach that hear us, and I imagine we give a bunch of alligators in the Everglades headaches every night, but almost no one else can hear us over the Cuban interference." WINZ was all-news back then, and, even though supposedly protected by the east-west pattern, Cuba didn't want one bit of it getting in. WINZ was a big target of on-channel, Spanish-language, propaganda-for-the-expatriates blocking.




Okay, subject pretty well covered. Can you stick to 96.5 now, Bandit?
 
LocalGuy said:
they're often connected to or the products of various gangs, and those gangs are walking into local businesses and "strongly encouraging" owners to "buy advertising" on the "stations." Extortion.

Really this is racketeering too, but it's not much different from what some of the major corporate broadcasters do. It's impossible for any recording artist to have a hit record now without the assistance of major broadcasting companies. There's basically a payola situation now.

If a station (pirate or not) is extorting ad dollars from businesses, it should really be dealt with under RICO.

The crap transmitters pirates use often have trouble staying on a frequency

Have you heard some of the regular non-pirate stations lately? There's at least 2 "legitimate" FM stations in Cincinnati that splatter all up and down the dial and even come through my computer speakers. And I'm not even that close to these stations' towers.

WINZ was all-news back then, and, even though supposedly protected by the east-west pattern, Cuba didn't want one bit of it getting in.

Gee, I wonder why.
 
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