Sub Channels on DISH and Directv

[Kenny Atkinson]

II hav'nt had Directv in awhile and loved it.I cant because of rules in my new apartment.Just curious.Does Directv or Dish carry any digital sub channels in any markets.(METV,COOL,RTV etc..).
What are the rules in MUST CARRY on subs.I heard that in a must carry whether on cable or sat is one or the other.Most cable companies do carry the secondary channels and not thirds forths.

 

[anotherguyTN]

In Jackson, TN WBBJ added CBS to 7.3 with ME-TV for filler, and it was picked up by DirecTV. I'm not sure what they do on full subchannels though. DirecTV viewers are howling though because WREG in Memphis was dropped to make room for it. Along with that, 7.3 is at 480 resolution where WREG had been 1080 HD. I'm on Charter cable, but if I had DirecTV I'd be howling as well. This is an example of why satellite systems should be allowed to carry more than one network affiliate. I haven't heard yet about what Dish has done, but they probably dropped WREG in favor of 7.3 as well.

 

[kg4cyb]

Due to the Home Satellite Viewing act of I believe 1996, no apartment of homeowners association can prevent you from viewing television with an 18 inch dish. Research the law

 

[sandiegoinexile]

Due to the Home Satellite Viewing act of I believe 1996, no apartment of homeowners association can prevent you from viewing television with an 18 inch dish. Research the law

I was just going to post the same thing. The issue often is access to southern sky. Apparently some apartment management companies will allow you to have a dish within X feet of your actual residence. If you can only get southern sky from the roof or from around the corner, your outta luck.

 

[EricStein]

The satcos used to put digital over-the-air tuners in their HD boxes, but eliminated them once they started to carry HD local channels. They didn't imagine the appetite for the current subchannel choices.

 

[eskipper411]

The satcos used to put digital over-the-air tuners in their HD boxes, but eliminated them once they started to carry HD local channels. They didn't imagine the appetite for the current subchannel choices.

Dish Network still offers an OTA tuner on their HD models. Just separate and it requires you to put it in. http://www.amazon.com/Dish-Network-287-DISH-MODULE/dp/B003UQOVXI

 

[gbranch]

Directv offers an add-on AM21 ATSC tuner that can be added to the HR2x HDDVR's. The tuner integrates the local OTA channels into the program guide and allows recording of the channels.

 

[recto101]

Directv for the San Francisco Market aired subchannels for KOFY 20.2 TV Azteca prior to their 2011 move to KEMO 50.

 

[ShawtyBlack_ATL]

DirecTV here in ATLanta doesn't have any sub channels. I have the standard receivers.

 

[NHRadio]

Here in the Boston DMA DirecTV carries no subchannels even with an HD receiver.

 

[taylorjsdad]

Here in the Boston DMA DirecTV carries no subchannels even with an HD receiver.

Same thing in the Burlington/Plattsburgh DMA.... if we want the CW for example we have to subscribe to the Superstation package since they do not carry WFFF-DT2. The shame of it is, if I lived one town south of here I would be in a county which is part of the Boston DMA and we could get WMUR.

 

[ansky212]

Isn't the issue that Directv receives all of its networks via satellite, and the networks don't distribute their subchannels via satellite? I remember reading that years ago. Cable companies can do it because they have local headend offices which Directv/Dish do not.

 

[gbranch]

Isn't the issue that Directv receives all of its networks via satellite, and the networks don't distribute their subchannels via satellite? I remember reading that years ago. Cable companies can do it because they have local headend offices which Directv/Dish do not.

Dish and Directv do have local headends in the cities in which they offer locals. The headends are typically located at one of the local tv stations. The local channels are sent to their uplink facilities via a combination of fiber, satellite and terrestrial microwave. So, it is possible for them to carry sub-channels, and they do in some limited instances. The satellites just don't have the bandwidth to carry every sub-channel in every city.

 

[mnradiofan]

Due to the Home Satellite Viewing act of I believe 1996, no apartment of homeowners association can prevent you from viewing television with an 18 inch dish. Research the law

Unfortunately, there are often other regulations HOA's and Apartments use to get out of this law, which at least in this state are completely legal. Mine, as an example, states that no such Dish can be mounted on common property, which covers everything but potting it and putting it on a deck or patio. They got out of THAT requirement by adding a stipulation that decks and patios are ONLY to be used for "Seasonally Appropriate Furniture". So, they don't disallow or allow, but there is nowhere to install them.

 

[tripinva]

Unfortunately, there are often other regulations HOA's and Apartments use to get out of this law, which at least in this state are completely legal. Mine, as an example, states that no such Dish can be mounted on common property, which covers everything but potting it and putting it on a deck or patio. They got out of THAT requirement by adding a stipulation that decks and patios are ONLY to be used for "Seasonally Appropriate Furniture". So, they don't disallow or allow, but there is nowhere to install them.

That restriction, as regards antennas and dishes, is illegal.

http://www.fcc.gov/guides/over-air-reception-devices-rule

"The rule prohibits restrictions that impair a person's ability to install, maintain, or use an antenna covered by the rule. The rule applies to state or local laws or regulations, including zoning, land-use or building regulations, private covenants, homeowners' association rules, condominium or cooperative association restrictions, lease restrictions, or similar restrictions on property within the exclusive use or control of the antenna user where the user has an ownership or leasehold interest in the property. A restriction impairs if it: (1) unreasonably delays or prevents use of; (2) unreasonably increases the cost of; or (3) precludes a person from receiving or transmitting an acceptable quality signal from an antenna covered under the rule. The rule does not prohibit legitimate safety restrictions or restrictions designed to preserve designated or eligible historic or prehistoric properties, provided the restriction is no more burdensome than necessary to accomplish the safety or preservation purpose."

- Trip

 

[Gregg]

Taylorjsdad says: >>>Same thing in the Burlington/Plattsburgh DMA.... if we want the CW for example we have to subscribe to the Superstation package since they do not carry WFFF-DT2. The shame of it is, if I lived one town south of here I would be in a county which is part of the Boston DMA and we could get WMUR.<<<

I think you mean you could get WLVI 56, the Boston CW affiliate. WMUR is the New Hampshire ABC affiliate, which I suppose is also included in the Boston DMA.

Oddly enough, Sunbeam TV, which owns WLVI and NBC affiliate WHDH 7, is locked in a fee battle with DirecTV, so both stations are currently off the DirecTV line up in the Boston DMA.

By the way Taylorjsdad... do you get the subchannels for WPTZ 5 NBC (This TV) or WCAX 3 CBS (their own weather channel)? Or do you get any of the Montreal channels? Does DirecTV or Dish carry any Canadian channels for border DMAs? How about Mexican channels? I assume they've got to carry XETV 6 and other Mexican channels in the San Diego area.



Gregg
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[wrsg915fm]

Dish and Directv do have local headends in the cities in which they offer locals. The headends are typically located at one of the local tv stations. The local channels are sent to their uplink facilities via a combination of fiber, satellite and terrestrial microwave. So, it is possible for them to carry sub-channels, and they do in some limited instances. The satellites just don't have the bandwidth to carry every sub-channel in every city.

On Dish, we have a channel that says you have Dish (forget the wording), and other worthless wastes of bandwidth. Certainly these can be replaced.