Summer 07 Que Paso?

[DrAkbar]

I also find it humorous (rather than angering) that you all remain anonymous while everyone knows my identity

Yo, Luvable One ~

I'm Doc...that's the Nurse. We're not hiding, just hangin' out somewhere in Buckeye until Mc12 blows our cover! Don't fret...we'll continue to call it as we see it.

xox

D.A. & N.J.

 

[Lil Birdie]

Dr. Akbar & Nurse Jeff's address is 550.

 

[Legend City]

Legend City

Thanks for the comments

I had Rick Romley on Sunday. He was particulary critical of the present county attorney. BY the way, I don't believe the New Times ever should have published the Sheriff's address on line no matter what they felt about it being public. There are those who reallyt do threaten him and his family.

It was everything that happened after that with which the former county attorney took excception.


Thanks again

Jay

Well, I don't think Norberg or Agster should have died at the hands of Joe's men.

Or that Joe Arizona should have been arrested by Arpaio.

Or that diabetic prisoners should have had their medicine withheld from them.

The addresses have been there for over 15 years, I've seen them for a long time. I saved a friend of mine once, she was gonna date a former pro athlete, and she pulled him up and saw that he had liens on all his property and was broke. She dumped him.

The data is there, I'd prefer that everyone can get their names off it, but evidently only cops and politicians can remove it, how fair is that?

Its the beginning of the end for Arpaio and Thomas, I can't wait.

 

[KCIR]

Its the beginning of the end for Arpaio and Thomas, I can't wait.


I certainly hope so! It really is scary when you get into some of the crap that has gone on. Sad thing is, most of the people aren't informed and don't know.

But wait, this is a radio board!

 

[DrAkbar]

They're both elected officials and serve at the will of the voters. Good luck on a recall. We'll just have to wait for the next election and let the people decide. Nurse Jeff and I think they'll have no problem keeping their jobs.

But back to topic: anyone think it strange that Movin' 97 doesn't do a format that would be very successful where their signal goes? There's a lot of Levi's in Cottonwood, Prescott Valley, Anthem, New River, Payson, Camp Verde, etc. And there are a lot of businesses there who can't justify a buy on KNIX & CamelNation.

 

[KOHS]

They're both elected officials and serve at the will of the voters. Good luck on a recall. We'll just have to wait for the next election and let the people decide. Nurse Jeff and I think they'll have no problem keeping their jobs.

But back to topic: anyone think it strange that Movin' 97 doesn't do a format that would be very successful where their signal goes? There's a lot of Levi's in Cottonwood, Prescott Valley, Anthem, New River, Payson, Camp Verde, etc. And there are a lot of businesses there who can't justify a buy on KNIX & CamelNation.

Heck, if Ye Old Pipe and Tobacco can afford to advertise on KTAR, what's to prevent Olsen's Grain from advertising on KNIX or Camel? Think big, people. Think big!! ;D

 

[dudeguy]

Yeah, back to topic.
1) KTAR is certainly not a failure. For a station to move to a completely new band, and then, in the last 4 month, completely change their line-up outside of AM drive......it's amazing that a good portion of their audience is still with them. KTAR AM and FM combined cumed 600,000 in the Summer book. That's huge. And I would guess higher than the combined cume of KTAR AM and KMVP ever were prior to the changes.
2) Check out the numbers for the Movin' format in Seattle. Very successful. #2 A18-34 and a player in both 18-49 and 25-54. You gotta start thinking that it might be the signal holding them back here.
3) How about KEZ! Their summer book beat their Christmas music book last year. Explain that! Seriously, I can't stand listening to the station and so I don't. Are they doing something different?
4) Rush Limbaugh is unstoppable. KTAR isn't going to beat Rush.
5)The biggest local radio show that never gets discussed here is John Holmberg on KUPD. Huge numbers in all the significant demos.

 

[justthenumbers]

2) Check out the numbers for the Movin' format in Seattle. Very successful. #2 A18-34 and a player in both 18-49 and 25-54. You gotta start thinking that it might be the signal holding them back here.

I disagree...there are numerous other markets in which Movin' has been tried on a full signal, and it's been a massive failure. It has more to do with the station/format just not fitting into this market. Here's what I mean...

KQMV/Seattle is one of only TWO stations having any sort of consistent, notable success with the Movin’ format. (The other is WKSL in Raleigh-Durham – more on that below).

KQMV is successful for a number of reasons:

- The music mix is custom-tailored for that market. Unfortunately, the other Movin’ stations, at least early on, essentially copied the KQMV playlist. Some of the stations’ playlists have evolved, but they still don’t sound like they necessarily belong in their markets. For example, KMVA is playing some songs that weren’t hits in Phoenix, yet leaving out other selections that were big.

- Seattle is a very non-ethnic market, with only a 5.3% Black & 5.6% Hispanic population (according to the Seattle Arbitron page on R&R). In many of the other markets where the Movin’ format has been attempted, the Black and/or Hispanic population is much higher. And, as I said above, the playlists have seemingly been copy-and-pasted from KQMV. A Movin’ format with a non-ethnic-oriented playlist is not going to work in markets with high ethnic populations.

- There has been only one Rhythmic CHR in Seattle for a number of years: KUBE – and it’s still that way. (Seattle’s KBKS, until very recently, has been a Rock-leaning Mainstream CHR). With only one station dabbling in the format, the songs haven’t been burned out in the market. On the other hand, Phoenix has had numerous Rhythmic-oriented stations over the years that have played Movin’ type music. In the early 90's, it was Power 92 and Y95. In the mid to late 90’s, it was Power 92 and KBZR/KPTY (Arizona’s Party Station/103-9 the Party); more recently and now, it’s been Power 98.3, 101.5 Jamz, 104-7 Kiss-FM, and Mega 104.3.

- KBKS (Kiss 106.1) has been an underperforming Mainstream CHR for a number of years. This gives KQMV a chance to succeed. A solid Mainstream CHR – or, as is the case in Phoenix, a trio of Rhythmic-leaning Mainstream & Rhythmic CHRs – prevents the Movin’ format from getting much attention.

With regards to WKSL in Raleigh-Durham…this is a Clear Channel “Kiss” station with the Movin’ Rhythmic AC format. I don’t know much about the market, but glancing at their station lineup (on R&R), I believe there are three reasons as to why WKSL has been relatively successful...and it's all related to lack of competition:

- The Mainstream CHR (WDCG “G105” – also owned by Clear Channel) is Rock-leaning, and has been that way for a long time
- While there is a Mainstream Urban and Urban AC station, there is no Rhythmic CHR in the market
- There is no Hot AC in the market.

 

[ajhenderson]

<< 4) Rush Limbaugh is unstoppable. KTAR isn't going to beat Rush. >>

But you can beat them in billing. That's what matters. Although Beck does beat Rush 12+ and 25-54 in some markets. Last time I looked, his one hour against Rush in St. Louis (same band matchup, Beck on FM, Rush on AM) he was winning. He consistently got bigger 25-54 and 35-54 shares than Rush on CC's Ohio talkers (WTAM, WTVN). Now that they finally have a product that appeals to someone under 90, ie someone that actually listens to FM, there is no reason they couldn't beat Rush in the demos that matter. KFYI will always be #1 65+. So what?

 

[KMGX]

<< 4) Rush Limbaugh is unstoppable. KTAR isn't going to beat Rush. >>

But you can beat them in billing. That's what matters. Although Beck does beat Rush 12+ and 25-54 in some markets. Last time I looked, his one hour against Rush in St. Louis (same band matchup, Beck on FM, Rush on AM) he was winning. He consistently got bigger 25-54 and 35-54 shares than Rush on CC's Ohio talkers (WTAM, WTVN). Now that they finally have a product that appeals to someone under 90, ie someone that actually listens to FM, there is no reason they couldn't beat Rush in the demos that matter. KFYI will always be #1 65+. So what?

You're saying KFYI goes after the old demos compared to KTAR? This is laughable!

Which station held onto Pat McBland, Paul Harvey and snewzblocks for years and years? Which station has done the toaster-talk consistently, where such titillating issues are discussed like "what is your favorite restaurant?"

Looking at the recent trends, it seems that KFYI in M25-54 in the 6am-10am slot has a HUGE advantage over KTAR (over a 7). While it's nice to talk about other markets where Rush loses in the ratings, that really is not at all applicable to PHOENIX.

KTAR better hope they do well in billing after investing all of that money for a move to FM which has panned out to not be a success SO FAR. Free-FM wasn't billing terribly, with their five sponsors... but at some point the listeners have to be there.

 

[ajhenderson]

KMGX:

My comparisons show that Rush is beatable. People are people, even in Phoenix. However, it may help for you to pick up an Arbitron survey - KFYI leads KTAR in the 65+ demo, and has since KTAR was on 620. My comments about their beating KFYI in younger demos referred in particular to Beck, not McMahon, et al. Beck has barely been on long enough for a month's trend.

I have yet to say KTAR-FM is or will be a success. It was a success on AM in that it outbilled its competition, lower ratings or not. And no, the listeners don't have to be there... 1010, 1100, 1190, 1280, 1540, and particularly 1440 demonstrate this... oh, and 1510, too (a little different). Sure, they have smaller nuts to crack to reach profitability, but none of them are nipping on KTAR's heels and they seem to be doing fine.