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Summer Book is out
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foreverchanges
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> and Hallelujah is back on top. I would link, but they won't
> let me!
>
Looks like the Max is finally starting to move up...and at least PT680 showed up this time!!
> let me!
>
Looks like the Max is finally starting to move up...and at least PT680 showed up this time!!
> > and Hallelujah is back on top. I would link, but they
> won't
> > let me!
> >
>
> Looks like the Max is finally starting to move up...and at
> least PT680 showed up this time!!
>
And once again Flinn's WHBQ-FM is losing ground. The Pig had better ratings than Q107.5 when Flinn's wife was pulling the music.
WGSF-AM, the station Flinn LMA's to the Spanish group is beating them with regional mexican! Sport Talk WHBQ is up while Q107.5 goes down.
Go Figure. It's not about local ownership versus corporate. Take a look at WLOK, locally owned and an AM hanging with the big boys.
Hot 107.1 continues to do well with Hip Hop.
The gurus at Citadel gotta be scratching their heads about that one.
> won't
> > let me!
> >
>
> Looks like the Max is finally starting to move up...and at
> least PT680 showed up this time!!
>
And once again Flinn's WHBQ-FM is losing ground. The Pig had better ratings than Q107.5 when Flinn's wife was pulling the music.
WGSF-AM, the station Flinn LMA's to the Spanish group is beating them with regional mexican! Sport Talk WHBQ is up while Q107.5 goes down.
Go Figure. It's not about local ownership versus corporate. Take a look at WLOK, locally owned and an AM hanging with the big boys.
Hot 107.1 continues to do well with Hip Hop.
The gurus at Citadel gotta be scratching their heads about that one.
Summer Book and a Global View
This is all very interesting.
Sure, it is impossible to get the full picture about what is going on with these stations with just the throw-away 12+ numbers. But, we can get a general, global view as to how these stations might be doing.
And, when you stand back and look at the big picture here, it is surprising to see how many “problem children” we have here, stations living well below expectations and perhaps even profitability.
Two Class Cs:
WMPW and WXMX – Both 100kw stations with transmitters in-town. OK, ‘XMX has a little time left. And, sure, they got a small blip in this book, but, they’re still suckin’. So, maybe Citadel will let this coast for a bit, and hope that their team can fix the train wreck. But, Power 99 may be a different story. This is a tough format to be so low in and there is little reason to expect things to change; one might expect Citadel’s patience to run short soon.
Class C2
WMBZ? Something’s gotta’ change here. I have heard some interesting information about this station’s future, but won’t repeat it, as it is so speculative. But, come on, just how long can they live with these numbers?
Class As
WMFS. Still living on low numbers. But, with Stern in flux, and the announcement as to his replacements, there may be a few ticks left on the clock. Still, the station has a nice signal for an A (nice transmitter placement), and we have seen with WHAL that Class As, when a niche is found, can find an audience.
WHBQ-FM. OK, there are different issues here than just numbers. But, at some point, the good doctor will tire of this.
Big AMs.
It really is a shame to see huge, heritage stations like 790 and 680 in just throw-away status. Surely, there is something can be done with these big signals.
Wow… that’s a lot of stations in flux. Perhaps interesting things might happen in 2006. Will any of these stations make the jump to all-Christmas soon, and emerge with a new format in the New Year? Who knows?
DE
This is all very interesting.
Sure, it is impossible to get the full picture about what is going on with these stations with just the throw-away 12+ numbers. But, we can get a general, global view as to how these stations might be doing.
And, when you stand back and look at the big picture here, it is surprising to see how many “problem children” we have here, stations living well below expectations and perhaps even profitability.
Two Class Cs:
WMPW and WXMX – Both 100kw stations with transmitters in-town. OK, ‘XMX has a little time left. And, sure, they got a small blip in this book, but, they’re still suckin’. So, maybe Citadel will let this coast for a bit, and hope that their team can fix the train wreck. But, Power 99 may be a different story. This is a tough format to be so low in and there is little reason to expect things to change; one might expect Citadel’s patience to run short soon.
Class C2
WMBZ? Something’s gotta’ change here. I have heard some interesting information about this station’s future, but won’t repeat it, as it is so speculative. But, come on, just how long can they live with these numbers?
Class As
WMFS. Still living on low numbers. But, with Stern in flux, and the announcement as to his replacements, there may be a few ticks left on the clock. Still, the station has a nice signal for an A (nice transmitter placement), and we have seen with WHAL that Class As, when a niche is found, can find an audience.
WHBQ-FM. OK, there are different issues here than just numbers. But, at some point, the good doctor will tire of this.
Big AMs.
It really is a shame to see huge, heritage stations like 790 and 680 in just throw-away status. Surely, there is something can be done with these big signals.
Wow… that’s a lot of stations in flux. Perhaps interesting things might happen in 2006. Will any of these stations make the jump to all-Christmas soon, and emerge with a new format in the New Year? Who knows?
DE
C
classicradionut
Guest
Re: Summer Book and a Global View
> Two Class Cs:
>
> WMPW and WXMX – Both 100kw stations with transmitters
> in-town.
Total agreement here. I can tell you that when WMPW was launched, the expectation in the building was it was going to be #1 in town. Ummmm, okay. I figured, especially after the grand staff meeting 3 hours before launch, that it might have done at least top 4, but who woulda thunk? Problem with Power is they pull from the national charts, and care less about local. As they say, Power ain't 'crunk'.
WXMX - Music mix is a trainwreck, apparently by design. Had these boys decided to play classic 'progressive' rock instead of stuff like James Brown, I think they'd do much better... but sorry gang, (and I know the PD reads this) you may not like the same old cuts AOR radio played 20 years ago but more Rush and less Aretha will work a hell of a lot better. I *don't* want to hear Ozzy into the Supremes!!! And nobody else that is a rock connisour does either. Pull your head out of your behind! This shoulda been a real honest-to-God AOR station with a library to destroy Rock 103. It aint. Woulda Coulda Shoulda... but there's still time, boys!
>
> Class C2
>
> WMBZ? Something’s gotta’ change here.
Buzz is as lame-duck as you can get. Yes, something is afoot. Sadly I'll be outta the market and won't get to hear it. Someone keep the aircheck machine rolling, will ya?
Since I'm leaving, let me give my personal assessment. Buzz always had potential. The station as it was launched back in '01 sounded great, although more like 'MFS's little brother. From day one I thought it could have gone one of two directions once the market settled down (Kiss gone and FM 100 in reactionary mode in late '01): Either they stay mainly alternative, with some hard AC stuff thrown in just to keep the AC format intact (and keep it very dayparted), or if in danger, stay with what they were good at... being HARD. They coulda creamed 93X if they'd wanted to (although alternative numbers stink in Memphis, this ain't a rock town.) Kramer did a great job with the music direction, and one thing the Buzz was when it arrived was a station dedicated to local bands. Shoulda stayed that way. Once Kramer was removed, the whole station began to disintegrate. Kramer was the glue that held that place together. Anyway, it's too late now, and of late, it's been BUZZ that's reacted to everything FM 100 does. Strange, funny and we're mighty glad over on Union ave to see it happen! (Sorry... nothing personal we just have fun watching the implosion)
>
> Class As
>
> WMFS. Still living on low numbers. But, with Stern in
> flux, and the announcement as to his replacements, there may
> be a few ticks left on the clock. Still, the station has a
> nice signal for an A (nice transmitter placement), and we
> have seen with WHAL that Class As, when a niche is found,
> can find an audience.
>
Read All Access's news today about Infinity's plans for some of the stations carrying Stern. Could be an interesting format. And, no, I don't know if it's coming to 92.9 - but I could guess.
> WHBQ-FM. OK, there are different issues here than just
> numbers. But, at some point, the good doctor will tire of
> this.
When Doc decides he wants to try something else, it'll happen, and not before. Hey, 107.5 could become all medical talk for all we know... or maybe he'll simulcast WGSF (that wouldn't be such a bad thing considering the ratings). Who knows. It IS kinda a waste, though. Yet, despite the horror stories of some of my friends who've escaped from there, there's always hope that a sort of common sense will prevail. Heads or tails, anyone?
>
> Big AMs.
>
> It really is a shame to see huge, heritage stations like 790
> and 680 in just throw-away status. Surely, there is
> something can be done with these big signals.
My guess is Entercom will stay with AAR until the network itself goes out of business. As for 790, don't think for a minute that Infinity doesn't have a plan. Things will pan out for the station, don't worry about that. Perhaps they will return to N/T and dethrone WREC. Wouldn't hurt my feelings.
>
> Wow… that’s a lot of stations in flux. Perhaps interesting
> things might happen in 2006. Will any of these stations
> make the jump to all-Christmas soon, and emerge with a new
> format in the New Year? Who knows?
>
Eeeeeewww... Christmas? Well, my bet is 103.5 WRBO - on Tuesday November 1. Remember I said it first. (and I don't have any information, just a gut feeling.). WRVR goes Thanksgiving day as always.
There's my final market comments before I go. Don't sugar coat it now, tell me what y'all think. One more lively exchange before I head to snow country.... and those guys on the Boston board already hit me over the head regularly LOL....<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
> Two Class Cs:
>
> WMPW and WXMX – Both 100kw stations with transmitters
> in-town.
Total agreement here. I can tell you that when WMPW was launched, the expectation in the building was it was going to be #1 in town. Ummmm, okay. I figured, especially after the grand staff meeting 3 hours before launch, that it might have done at least top 4, but who woulda thunk? Problem with Power is they pull from the national charts, and care less about local. As they say, Power ain't 'crunk'.
WXMX - Music mix is a trainwreck, apparently by design. Had these boys decided to play classic 'progressive' rock instead of stuff like James Brown, I think they'd do much better... but sorry gang, (and I know the PD reads this) you may not like the same old cuts AOR radio played 20 years ago but more Rush and less Aretha will work a hell of a lot better. I *don't* want to hear Ozzy into the Supremes!!! And nobody else that is a rock connisour does either. Pull your head out of your behind! This shoulda been a real honest-to-God AOR station with a library to destroy Rock 103. It aint. Woulda Coulda Shoulda... but there's still time, boys!
>
> Class C2
>
> WMBZ? Something’s gotta’ change here.
Buzz is as lame-duck as you can get. Yes, something is afoot. Sadly I'll be outta the market and won't get to hear it. Someone keep the aircheck machine rolling, will ya?
Since I'm leaving, let me give my personal assessment. Buzz always had potential. The station as it was launched back in '01 sounded great, although more like 'MFS's little brother. From day one I thought it could have gone one of two directions once the market settled down (Kiss gone and FM 100 in reactionary mode in late '01): Either they stay mainly alternative, with some hard AC stuff thrown in just to keep the AC format intact (and keep it very dayparted), or if in danger, stay with what they were good at... being HARD. They coulda creamed 93X if they'd wanted to (although alternative numbers stink in Memphis, this ain't a rock town.) Kramer did a great job with the music direction, and one thing the Buzz was when it arrived was a station dedicated to local bands. Shoulda stayed that way. Once Kramer was removed, the whole station began to disintegrate. Kramer was the glue that held that place together. Anyway, it's too late now, and of late, it's been BUZZ that's reacted to everything FM 100 does. Strange, funny and we're mighty glad over on Union ave to see it happen! (Sorry... nothing personal we just have fun watching the implosion)
>
> Class As
>
> WMFS. Still living on low numbers. But, with Stern in
> flux, and the announcement as to his replacements, there may
> be a few ticks left on the clock. Still, the station has a
> nice signal for an A (nice transmitter placement), and we
> have seen with WHAL that Class As, when a niche is found,
> can find an audience.
>
Read All Access's news today about Infinity's plans for some of the stations carrying Stern. Could be an interesting format. And, no, I don't know if it's coming to 92.9 - but I could guess.
> WHBQ-FM. OK, there are different issues here than just
> numbers. But, at some point, the good doctor will tire of
> this.
When Doc decides he wants to try something else, it'll happen, and not before. Hey, 107.5 could become all medical talk for all we know... or maybe he'll simulcast WGSF (that wouldn't be such a bad thing considering the ratings). Who knows. It IS kinda a waste, though. Yet, despite the horror stories of some of my friends who've escaped from there, there's always hope that a sort of common sense will prevail. Heads or tails, anyone?
>
> Big AMs.
>
> It really is a shame to see huge, heritage stations like 790
> and 680 in just throw-away status. Surely, there is
> something can be done with these big signals.
My guess is Entercom will stay with AAR until the network itself goes out of business. As for 790, don't think for a minute that Infinity doesn't have a plan. Things will pan out for the station, don't worry about that. Perhaps they will return to N/T and dethrone WREC. Wouldn't hurt my feelings.
>
> Wow… that’s a lot of stations in flux. Perhaps interesting
> things might happen in 2006. Will any of these stations
> make the jump to all-Christmas soon, and emerge with a new
> format in the New Year? Who knows?
>
Eeeeeewww... Christmas? Well, my bet is 103.5 WRBO - on Tuesday November 1. Remember I said it first. (and I don't have any information, just a gut feeling.). WRVR goes Thanksgiving day as always.
There's my final market comments before I go. Don't sugar coat it now, tell me what y'all think. One more lively exchange before I head to snow country.... and those guys on the Boston board already hit me over the head regularly LOL....<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
D
desechado
Guest
sometimes WRVR does OK too.<P ID="signature">______________
Leonard Lawrence</P>
Leonard Lawrence</P>
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DeltaKing
Guest
Re: Summer Book and a Global View
More big stories out of this one could be the month from h e l l that KIX 106 had, the MONSTER books for both WEGR and 98.1 in AM Drive (WXMX is now #2 with Men 25-54...right behind 103), and that FM100 topped WRVR with persons 25-54. Can't recall the last time that happened.
Also, WMBZ...whoa. They've just rolled over, given up and died. I think I hear steel guitars or a guy named "Jack" coming to 94.1.
More big stories out of this one could be the month from h e l l that KIX 106 had, the MONSTER books for both WEGR and 98.1 in AM Drive (WXMX is now #2 with Men 25-54...right behind 103), and that FM100 topped WRVR with persons 25-54. Can't recall the last time that happened.
Also, WMBZ...whoa. They've just rolled over, given up and died. I think I hear steel guitars or a guy named "Jack" coming to 94.1.
M
meepmeep
Guest
Re: Summer Book and a Global View
> > Two Class Cs:
> >
> > WMPW and WXMX – Both 100kw stations with transmitters
> > in-town.
>
> Total agreement here. I can tell you that when WMPW was
> launched, the expectation in the building was it was going
> to be #1 in town. Ummmm, okay. I figured, especially after
> the grand staff meeting 3 hours before launch, that it might
> have done at least top 4, but who woulda thunk? Problem
> with Power is they pull from the national charts, and care
> less about local. As they say, Power ain't 'crunk'.
>
> WXMX - Music mix is a trainwreck, apparently by design. Had
> these boys decided to play classic 'progressive' rock
> instead of stuff like James Brown, I think they'd do much
> better... but sorry gang, (and I know the PD reads this) you
> may not like the same old cuts AOR radio played 20 years ago
> but more Rush and less Aretha will work a hell of a lot
> better. I *don't* want to hear Ozzy into the Supremes!!!
> And nobody else that is a rock connisour does either. Pull
> your head out of your behind! This shoulda been a real
> honest-to-God AOR station with a library to destroy Rock
> 103. It aint. Woulda Coulda Shoulda... but there's still
> time, boys!
>
> >
> > Class C2
> >
> > WMBZ? Something’s gotta’ change here.
>
> Buzz is as lame-duck as you can get. Yes, something is
> afoot. Sadly I'll be outta the market and won't get to hear
> it. Someone keep the aircheck machine rolling, will ya?
>
> Since I'm leaving, let me give my personal assessment. Buzz
> always had potential. The station as it was launched back
> in '01 sounded great, although more like 'MFS's little
> brother. From day one I thought it could have gone one of
> two directions once the market settled down (Kiss gone and
> FM 100 in reactionary mode in late '01): Either they stay
> mainly alternative, with some hard AC stuff thrown in just
> to keep the AC format intact (and keep it very dayparted),
> or if in danger, stay with what they were good at... being
> HARD. They coulda creamed 93X if they'd wanted to (although
> alternative numbers stink in Memphis, this ain't a rock
> town.) Kramer did a great job with the music direction, and
> one thing the Buzz was when it arrived was a station
> dedicated to local bands. Shoulda stayed that way. Once
> Kramer was removed, the whole station began to disintegrate.
> Kramer was the glue that held that place together. Anyway,
> it's too late now, and of late, it's been BUZZ that's
> reacted to everything FM 100 does. Strange, funny and we're
> mighty glad over on Union ave to see it happen! (Sorry...
> nothing personal we just have fun watching the implosion)
> >
Wow,Steve!
Is Kramer programming a station in the market you're moving to?
(jus' giggin' ya once for the road!)
> > Class As
> >
> > WMFS. Still living on low numbers. But, with Stern in
> > flux, and the announcement as to his replacements, there
> may
> > be a few ticks left on the clock. Still, the station has
> a
> > nice signal for an A (nice transmitter placement), and we
> > have seen with WHAL that Class As, when a niche is found,
> > can find an audience.
> >
> Read All Access's news today about Infinity's plans for some
> of the stations carrying Stern. Could be an interesting
> format. And, no, I don't know if it's coming to 92.9 - but
> I could guess.
>
> > WHBQ-FM. OK, there are different issues here than just
> > numbers. But, at some point, the good doctor will tire of
>
> > this.
>
> When Doc decides he wants to try something else, it'll
> happen, and not before. Hey, 107.5 could become all medical
> talk for all we know... or maybe he'll simulcast WGSF (that
> wouldn't be such a bad thing considering the ratings). Who
> knows. It IS kinda a waste, though. Yet, despite the
> horror stories of some of my friends who've escaped from
> there, there's always hope that a sort of common sense will
> prevail. Heads or tails, anyone?
> >
> > Big AMs.
> >
> > It really is a shame to see huge, heritage stations like
> 790
> > and 680 in just throw-away status. Surely, there is
> > something can be done with these big signals.
>
> My guess is Entercom will stay with AAR until the network
> itself goes out of business. As for 790, don't think for a
> minute that Infinity doesn't have a plan. Things will pan
> out for the station, don't worry about that. Perhaps they
> will return to N/T and dethrone WREC. Wouldn't hurt my
> feelings.
> >
> > Wow… that’s a lot of stations in flux. Perhaps
> interesting
> > things might happen in 2006. Will any of these stations
> > make the jump to all-Christmas soon, and emerge with a new
>
> > format in the New Year? Who knows?
> >
> Eeeeeewww... Christmas? Well, my bet is 103.5 WRBO - on
> Tuesday November 1. Remember I said it first. (and I don't
> have any information, just a gut feeling.). WRVR goes
> Thanksgiving day as always.
>
> There's my final market comments before I go. Don't sugar
> coat it now, tell me what y'all think. One more lively
> exchange before I head to snow country.... and those guys on
> the Boston board already hit me over the head regularly
> LOL....
>
> > Two Class Cs:
> >
> > WMPW and WXMX – Both 100kw stations with transmitters
> > in-town.
>
> Total agreement here. I can tell you that when WMPW was
> launched, the expectation in the building was it was going
> to be #1 in town. Ummmm, okay. I figured, especially after
> the grand staff meeting 3 hours before launch, that it might
> have done at least top 4, but who woulda thunk? Problem
> with Power is they pull from the national charts, and care
> less about local. As they say, Power ain't 'crunk'.
>
> WXMX - Music mix is a trainwreck, apparently by design. Had
> these boys decided to play classic 'progressive' rock
> instead of stuff like James Brown, I think they'd do much
> better... but sorry gang, (and I know the PD reads this) you
> may not like the same old cuts AOR radio played 20 years ago
> but more Rush and less Aretha will work a hell of a lot
> better. I *don't* want to hear Ozzy into the Supremes!!!
> And nobody else that is a rock connisour does either. Pull
> your head out of your behind! This shoulda been a real
> honest-to-God AOR station with a library to destroy Rock
> 103. It aint. Woulda Coulda Shoulda... but there's still
> time, boys!
>
> >
> > Class C2
> >
> > WMBZ? Something’s gotta’ change here.
>
> Buzz is as lame-duck as you can get. Yes, something is
> afoot. Sadly I'll be outta the market and won't get to hear
> it. Someone keep the aircheck machine rolling, will ya?
>
> Since I'm leaving, let me give my personal assessment. Buzz
> always had potential. The station as it was launched back
> in '01 sounded great, although more like 'MFS's little
> brother. From day one I thought it could have gone one of
> two directions once the market settled down (Kiss gone and
> FM 100 in reactionary mode in late '01): Either they stay
> mainly alternative, with some hard AC stuff thrown in just
> to keep the AC format intact (and keep it very dayparted),
> or if in danger, stay with what they were good at... being
> HARD. They coulda creamed 93X if they'd wanted to (although
> alternative numbers stink in Memphis, this ain't a rock
> town.) Kramer did a great job with the music direction, and
> one thing the Buzz was when it arrived was a station
> dedicated to local bands. Shoulda stayed that way. Once
> Kramer was removed, the whole station began to disintegrate.
> Kramer was the glue that held that place together. Anyway,
> it's too late now, and of late, it's been BUZZ that's
> reacted to everything FM 100 does. Strange, funny and we're
> mighty glad over on Union ave to see it happen! (Sorry...
> nothing personal we just have fun watching the implosion)
> >
Wow,Steve!
Is Kramer programming a station in the market you're moving to?
(jus' giggin' ya once for the road!)
> > Class As
> >
> > WMFS. Still living on low numbers. But, with Stern in
> > flux, and the announcement as to his replacements, there
> may
> > be a few ticks left on the clock. Still, the station has
> a
> > nice signal for an A (nice transmitter placement), and we
> > have seen with WHAL that Class As, when a niche is found,
> > can find an audience.
> >
> Read All Access's news today about Infinity's plans for some
> of the stations carrying Stern. Could be an interesting
> format. And, no, I don't know if it's coming to 92.9 - but
> I could guess.
>
> > WHBQ-FM. OK, there are different issues here than just
> > numbers. But, at some point, the good doctor will tire of
>
> > this.
>
> When Doc decides he wants to try something else, it'll
> happen, and not before. Hey, 107.5 could become all medical
> talk for all we know... or maybe he'll simulcast WGSF (that
> wouldn't be such a bad thing considering the ratings). Who
> knows. It IS kinda a waste, though. Yet, despite the
> horror stories of some of my friends who've escaped from
> there, there's always hope that a sort of common sense will
> prevail. Heads or tails, anyone?
> >
> > Big AMs.
> >
> > It really is a shame to see huge, heritage stations like
> 790
> > and 680 in just throw-away status. Surely, there is
> > something can be done with these big signals.
>
> My guess is Entercom will stay with AAR until the network
> itself goes out of business. As for 790, don't think for a
> minute that Infinity doesn't have a plan. Things will pan
> out for the station, don't worry about that. Perhaps they
> will return to N/T and dethrone WREC. Wouldn't hurt my
> feelings.
> >
> > Wow… that’s a lot of stations in flux. Perhaps
> interesting
> > things might happen in 2006. Will any of these stations
> > make the jump to all-Christmas soon, and emerge with a new
>
> > format in the New Year? Who knows?
> >
> Eeeeeewww... Christmas? Well, my bet is 103.5 WRBO - on
> Tuesday November 1. Remember I said it first. (and I don't
> have any information, just a gut feeling.). WRVR goes
> Thanksgiving day as always.
>
> There's my final market comments before I go. Don't sugar
> coat it now, tell me what y'all think. One more lively
> exchange before I head to snow country.... and those guys on
> the Boston board already hit me over the head regularly
> LOL....
>
C
classicradionut
Guest
Re: Summer Book and a Global View
> Wow,Steve!
> Is Kramer programming a station in the market you're moving
> to?
> (jus' giggin' ya once for the road!)
Naaa. All kidding aside, Kramer was the brains behind da Buzz. All other things notwithstanding, that station wouldn't have done crap if it sounded then like it does now. Freakin' brilliant move by Entercom Memphis, don't ya think?
Station's doomed. I say bring back the Frog.<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
> Wow,Steve!
> Is Kramer programming a station in the market you're moving
> to?
> (jus' giggin' ya once for the road!)
Naaa. All kidding aside, Kramer was the brains behind da Buzz. All other things notwithstanding, that station wouldn't have done crap if it sounded then like it does now. Freakin' brilliant move by Entercom Memphis, don't ya think?
Station's doomed. I say bring back the Frog.<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
C
classicradionut
Guest
Re: Summer Book and a Global View
> Also, WMBZ...whoa. They've just rolled over, given up and
> died. I think I hear steel guitars or a guy named "Jack"
> coming to 94.1.
>
They won't go Jack. They'd be eaten alive by FM 100. Steel guitars would be a much better choice, IF the folks on Ridgeway are thinking straight.
I've made this call every year for the last several... Entercom doesn't do country to speak of, except in certain markets where their country station is basically number one. But, had they thought things through, Froggy woulda, coulda and SHOULDA changed its slogan and imaging to something like 'Today's Country Y-94.1' and got rid of all the frog-isms instead of a drastic format flip back in '01. The station did it's job of keeping Kix from beating WRVR for the AC numbers. It was a DUMB ASS MOVE on Entercom's part to go ModernAC, and they know it. If they don't, they're run by people who really DON'T have a clue. But, you know what? The time is still right, and they STILL could do the above country format and inflict massive damage on Kix. Hey guys, want me to consult it?
Now, look what they've got. Four years after the flip and WMBZ is headed for the toilet. But, hey, they squeezed a year more life out of the format than I thought they would, but probably only because they don't really know what to do with it now. I will say that without Argo & Nikki, the station lacks character and the music... well, why go mainstream the way they did? Sounds like they are doing a poor job of trying to be FM 100.
It's gotta be a stressful time over there. 680 hasn't done what they had hoped (although there's a bit of progress seen this time around, at least it showed up) and 94.1 has GOTTA be hard to sell... at least WRVR is holding it's own.
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> Also, WMBZ...whoa. They've just rolled over, given up and
> died. I think I hear steel guitars or a guy named "Jack"
> coming to 94.1.
>
They won't go Jack. They'd be eaten alive by FM 100. Steel guitars would be a much better choice, IF the folks on Ridgeway are thinking straight.
I've made this call every year for the last several... Entercom doesn't do country to speak of, except in certain markets where their country station is basically number one. But, had they thought things through, Froggy woulda, coulda and SHOULDA changed its slogan and imaging to something like 'Today's Country Y-94.1' and got rid of all the frog-isms instead of a drastic format flip back in '01. The station did it's job of keeping Kix from beating WRVR for the AC numbers. It was a DUMB ASS MOVE on Entercom's part to go ModernAC, and they know it. If they don't, they're run by people who really DON'T have a clue. But, you know what? The time is still right, and they STILL could do the above country format and inflict massive damage on Kix. Hey guys, want me to consult it?
Now, look what they've got. Four years after the flip and WMBZ is headed for the toilet. But, hey, they squeezed a year more life out of the format than I thought they would, but probably only because they don't really know what to do with it now. I will say that without Argo & Nikki, the station lacks character and the music... well, why go mainstream the way they did? Sounds like they are doing a poor job of trying to be FM 100.
It's gotta be a stressful time over there. 680 hasn't done what they had hoped (although there's a bit of progress seen this time around, at least it showed up) and 94.1 has GOTTA be hard to sell... at least WRVR is holding it's own.
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> > > and Hallelujah is back on top. I would link, but they
> > won't
> > > let me!
> > >
> >
> > Looks like the Max is finally starting to move up...and at
>
> > least PT680 showed up this time!!
> >
> And once again Flinn's WHBQ-FM is losing ground. The Pig
> had better ratings than Q107.5 when Flinn's wife was pulling
> the music.
>
> WGSF-AM, the station Flinn LMA's to the Spanish group is
> beating them with regional mexican! Sport Talk WHBQ is up
> while Q107.5 goes down.
>
> Go Figure. It's not about local ownership versus corporate.
> Take a look at WLOK, locally owned and an AM hanging with
> the big boys.
>
> Hot 107.1 continues to do well with Hip Hop.
> The gurus at Citadel gotta be scratching their heads about
> that one.
>
all the while when we all knew that they should have had their dj's on the air scratching 3-six & project pat records.
> > won't
> > > let me!
> > >
> >
> > Looks like the Max is finally starting to move up...and at
>
> > least PT680 showed up this time!!
> >
> And once again Flinn's WHBQ-FM is losing ground. The Pig
> had better ratings than Q107.5 when Flinn's wife was pulling
> the music.
>
> WGSF-AM, the station Flinn LMA's to the Spanish group is
> beating them with regional mexican! Sport Talk WHBQ is up
> while Q107.5 goes down.
>
> Go Figure. It's not about local ownership versus corporate.
> Take a look at WLOK, locally owned and an AM hanging with
> the big boys.
>
> Hot 107.1 continues to do well with Hip Hop.
> The gurus at Citadel gotta be scratching their heads about
> that one.
>
all the while when we all knew that they should have had their dj's on the air scratching 3-six & project pat records.
Summer Book...
> They won't go Jack. They'd be eaten alive by FM 100. Steel
> guitars would be a much better choice, IF the folks on
> Ridgeway are thinking straight.
I doubt it too, on the Jack concept. Jack's got an 18 month life span, (See Denver) if Denver tells an accurate tale. If they did go "JackFM", I seriously doubt 100 would impact them more than is already the case.
> It was a DUMB ASS MOVE on Entercom's part to go
> ModernAC, and they know it. If they don't, they're run by
> people who really DON'T have a clue.
Come on, Steve. You know that ModernAC was smart, and so did everyone else. Remember when 100 was swirling the bowl? Was staying Hot AC a dumb move for them? The Buzz that Jerry and Kramer put on the air, was a smart move. Currently, well...
> Now, look what they've got. Four years after the flip and
> WMBZ is headed for the toilet. But, hey, they squeezed a
> year more life out of the format than I thought they would,
> but probably only because they don't really know what to do
> with it now. I will say that without Argo & Nikki, the
> station lacks character and the music... well, why go
> mainstream the way they did? Sounds like they are doing a
> poor job of trying to be FM 100.
Ironic, isn't it? The copier getting copied, by the once, original? (Going crosseyed having written that...) Other than the obvious success of "Whatever", FM 100 should send WMBZ a Christmas card. Seriously, one for every new slogan, every dumb*ss show change, every firing, Once for every hour that Kelly Clarkson plays twice in 59 minutes! It's only fair, I would! They are better than any contest, or tv campaign, at this point.
Sadly, the guy who currently runs the show at WMBZ, in 2001 probably wouldn't have been hired, as a part timer. What once was a powerhouse, is now racing downhill without an engine, and having it's a** handed to it, by a rusted out Sh*tbox. Sad, but who, since december, hasn't seen this outcome?
Getting rid of Nikki, Argo, and Tripp, were only further proof. Now Deltaking relished in the fact that buzz tanked.
But Delta, Steve, anyone, did you see, even despite the engineless station, what Middays, Afternoons and nights did in Summer? (W 18-34) Hell Argo did very well, despite the flaws of his station. (congratulations are in order for him BTW, he's now nationwide.)
Sadly, who can celebrate it, NO ONE! Nothing is the same, as it was, even in Summer. A small upward movement, now dulled by all the new changes. Going Mainstream AC in 2001, was smart, continuing to call it Buzz, when only 1 real element of the Buzz still exists, that's the crime. A strong wind could knock it down, and that's a crime, to all the original staff, and the guys who started it.
If that's a bit harsh, sorry, but to sugarcoat, when good folks like Argo, Nikki, and Tripp, are tossed out, so the SUCKZONE can be further increased. That's just STUPID! I will end on that rant. And, Congratulations again to Argo, that's a sweet gig! CFKane
> They won't go Jack. They'd be eaten alive by FM 100. Steel
> guitars would be a much better choice, IF the folks on
> Ridgeway are thinking straight.
I doubt it too, on the Jack concept. Jack's got an 18 month life span, (See Denver) if Denver tells an accurate tale. If they did go "JackFM", I seriously doubt 100 would impact them more than is already the case.
> It was a DUMB ASS MOVE on Entercom's part to go
> ModernAC, and they know it. If they don't, they're run by
> people who really DON'T have a clue.
Come on, Steve. You know that ModernAC was smart, and so did everyone else. Remember when 100 was swirling the bowl? Was staying Hot AC a dumb move for them? The Buzz that Jerry and Kramer put on the air, was a smart move. Currently, well...
> Now, look what they've got. Four years after the flip and
> WMBZ is headed for the toilet. But, hey, they squeezed a
> year more life out of the format than I thought they would,
> but probably only because they don't really know what to do
> with it now. I will say that without Argo & Nikki, the
> station lacks character and the music... well, why go
> mainstream the way they did? Sounds like they are doing a
> poor job of trying to be FM 100.
Ironic, isn't it? The copier getting copied, by the once, original? (Going crosseyed having written that...) Other than the obvious success of "Whatever", FM 100 should send WMBZ a Christmas card. Seriously, one for every new slogan, every dumb*ss show change, every firing, Once for every hour that Kelly Clarkson plays twice in 59 minutes! It's only fair, I would! They are better than any contest, or tv campaign, at this point.
Sadly, the guy who currently runs the show at WMBZ, in 2001 probably wouldn't have been hired, as a part timer. What once was a powerhouse, is now racing downhill without an engine, and having it's a** handed to it, by a rusted out Sh*tbox. Sad, but who, since december, hasn't seen this outcome?
Getting rid of Nikki, Argo, and Tripp, were only further proof. Now Deltaking relished in the fact that buzz tanked.
But Delta, Steve, anyone, did you see, even despite the engineless station, what Middays, Afternoons and nights did in Summer? (W 18-34) Hell Argo did very well, despite the flaws of his station. (congratulations are in order for him BTW, he's now nationwide.)
Sadly, who can celebrate it, NO ONE! Nothing is the same, as it was, even in Summer. A small upward movement, now dulled by all the new changes. Going Mainstream AC in 2001, was smart, continuing to call it Buzz, when only 1 real element of the Buzz still exists, that's the crime. A strong wind could knock it down, and that's a crime, to all the original staff, and the guys who started it.
If that's a bit harsh, sorry, but to sugarcoat, when good folks like Argo, Nikki, and Tripp, are tossed out, so the SUCKZONE can be further increased. That's just STUPID! I will end on that rant. And, Congratulations again to Argo, that's a sweet gig! CFKane
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Argo
> But Delta, Steve, anyone, did you see, even despite the
> engineless station, what Middays, Afternoons and nights did
> in Summer? (W 18-34) Hell Argo did very well, despite the
> flaws of his station. (congratulations are in order for him
> BTW, he's now nationwide.)
>
> Sadly, who can celebrate it, NO ONE! Nothing is the same,
> as it was, even in Summer. A small upward movement, now
> dulled by all the new changes. Going Mainstream AC in 2001,
> was smart, continuing to call it Buzz, when only 1 real
> element of the Buzz still exists, that's the crime. A
> strong wind could knock it down, and that's a crime, to all
> the original staff, and the guys who started it.
>
> If that's a bit harsh, sorry, but to sugarcoat, when good
> folks like Argo, Nikki, and Tripp, are tossed out, so the
> SUCKZONE can be further increased. That's just STUPID! I
> will end on that rant. And, Congratulations again to Argo,
> that's a sweet gig! CFKane
>
So what exactly is Argo doing now?? He sounded good the few times I heard him.
> But Delta, Steve, anyone, did you see, even despite the
> engineless station, what Middays, Afternoons and nights did
> in Summer? (W 18-34) Hell Argo did very well, despite the
> flaws of his station. (congratulations are in order for him
> BTW, he's now nationwide.)
>
> Sadly, who can celebrate it, NO ONE! Nothing is the same,
> as it was, even in Summer. A small upward movement, now
> dulled by all the new changes. Going Mainstream AC in 2001,
> was smart, continuing to call it Buzz, when only 1 real
> element of the Buzz still exists, that's the crime. A
> strong wind could knock it down, and that's a crime, to all
> the original staff, and the guys who started it.
>
> If that's a bit harsh, sorry, but to sugarcoat, when good
> folks like Argo, Nikki, and Tripp, are tossed out, so the
> SUCKZONE can be further increased. That's just STUPID! I
> will end on that rant. And, Congratulations again to Argo,
> that's a sweet gig! CFKane
>
So what exactly is Argo doing now?? He sounded good the few times I heard him.
Re: Argo
> I hear, he's doing a steady gig on Sirius now, on the Elvis
> Channel. CFKane
Mornings, to be exact.
He's live 8am to 1pm Central -- or as it is called there, "Elvis Time."
They have a couple of new faces there, or so I am told. It's an interesting place to work, and it pays well. Or so, I'm told.
DE
> I hear, he's doing a steady gig on Sirius now, on the Elvis
> Channel. CFKane
Mornings, to be exact.
He's live 8am to 1pm Central -- or as it is called there, "Elvis Time."
They have a couple of new faces there, or so I am told. It's an interesting place to work, and it pays well. Or so, I'm told.
DE
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Re: Summer Book...
Yes, Kane those were heady days. First the long-awaited departure of the little deacon, then the arrival of the Vegas rockers. I could smell that frog frying all the way from Burma. Smelled like..... victory! Like Martha Stewart says..."It's a good thing"... Unfortunately all good things must come to an end, although any sane critically thinking person would have to ask, especially in this case, WHY??? I agree with the assumption that Jack is not in the cards for MBZ. I will also add my degree of veracity to your idea that FM-100 can attribute the newborn adhesion of their dentures to the afforementioned suckzone. Nice book for them, but Eaten alive???!! They were simply grazing upon carrion. In an enviornment like this they could have gummed their way through the steak dinner that DK seems to think they earned on a level table. You could suck that kind of steak through a straw. It's already been chewed. Besides how full can you get on a tenth of a point? I anxiously await the next flop of the cards. Argo lands upon his feet again as will all true talent in this often turbulent game. Congrats to the winners of the summer book. Hey, at least we aren't in sales.
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Yes, Kane those were heady days. First the long-awaited departure of the little deacon, then the arrival of the Vegas rockers. I could smell that frog frying all the way from Burma. Smelled like..... victory! Like Martha Stewart says..."It's a good thing"... Unfortunately all good things must come to an end, although any sane critically thinking person would have to ask, especially in this case, WHY??? I agree with the assumption that Jack is not in the cards for MBZ. I will also add my degree of veracity to your idea that FM-100 can attribute the newborn adhesion of their dentures to the afforementioned suckzone. Nice book for them, but Eaten alive???!! They were simply grazing upon carrion. In an enviornment like this they could have gummed their way through the steak dinner that DK seems to think they earned on a level table. You could suck that kind of steak through a straw. It's already been chewed. Besides how full can you get on a tenth of a point? I anxiously await the next flop of the cards. Argo lands upon his feet again as will all true talent in this often turbulent game. Congrats to the winners of the summer book. Hey, at least we aren't in sales.
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Argo at Elvis Radio???
Oh Lord...I'm gonna say a prayer for Argo. He is now working for Tony Yoken, and I know there are a bunch of us hovering around this board that could comment on that! JP...you want to start?
Oh Lord...I'm gonna say a prayer for Argo. He is now working for Tony Yoken, and I know there are a bunch of us hovering around this board that could comment on that! JP...you want to start?
Re: Argo at Elvis Radio???
Trust me, and I don't know Tony's tactics, but I doubt he could hold a candle to ARGO's most recent GM. Again, I don't know, but I think, anything would be a relief after that. Maybe. CFKane
> Oh Lord...I'm gonna say a prayer for Argo. He is now
> working for Tony Yoken, and I know there are a bunch of us
> hovering around this board that could comment on that!
> JP...you want to start?
>
Trust me, and I don't know Tony's tactics, but I doubt he could hold a candle to ARGO's most recent GM. Again, I don't know, but I think, anything would be a relief after that. Maybe. CFKane
> Oh Lord...I'm gonna say a prayer for Argo. He is now
> working for Tony Yoken, and I know there are a bunch of us
> hovering around this board that could comment on that!
> JP...you want to start?
>
Re: Summer Book...
> > They won't go Jack. They'd be eaten alive by FM 100.
> Steel
> > guitars would be a much better choice, IF the folks on
> > Ridgeway are thinking straight.
>
> I doubt it too, on the Jack concept. Jack's got an 18 month
> life span, (See Denver) if Denver tells an accurate tale.
> If they did go "JackFM", I seriously doubt 100 would impact
> them more than is already the case.
>
>
> > It was a DUMB ASS MOVE on Entercom's part to go
> > ModernAC, and they know it. If they don't, they're run by
>
> > people who really DON'T have a clue.
>
> Come on, Steve. You know that ModernAC was smart, and so
> did everyone else. Remember when 100 was swirling the bowl?
> Was staying Hot AC a dumb move for them? The Buzz that
> Jerry and Kramer put on the air, was a smart move.
> Currently, well...
>
> > Now, look what they've got. Four years after the flip and
>
> > WMBZ is headed for the toilet. But, hey, they squeezed a
> > year more life out of the format than I thought they
> would,
> > but probably only because they don't really know what to
> do
> > with it now. I will say that without Argo & Nikki, the
> > station lacks character and the music... well, why go
> > mainstream the way they did? Sounds like they are doing a
>
> > poor job of trying to be FM 100.
>
> Ironic, isn't it? The copier getting copied, by the once,
> original? (Going crosseyed having written that...) Other
> than the obvious success of "Whatever", FM 100 should send
> WMBZ a Christmas card. Seriously, one for every new slogan,
> every dumb*ss show change, every firing, Once for every hour
> that Kelly Clarkson plays twice in 59 minutes! It's only
> fair, I would! They are better than any contest, or tv
> campaign, at this point.
>
> Sadly, the guy who currently runs the show at WMBZ, in 2001
> probably wouldn't have been hired, as a part timer. What
> once was a powerhouse, is now racing downhill without an
> engine, and having it's a** handed to it, by a rusted out
> Sh*tbox. Sad, but who, since december, hasn't seen this
> outcome?
>
> Getting rid of Nikki, Argo, and Tripp, were only further
> proof. Now Deltaking relished in the fact that buzz tanked.
>
>
> But Delta, Steve, anyone, did you see, even despite the
> engineless station, what Middays, Afternoons and nights did
> in Summer? (W 18-34) Hell Argo did very well, despite the
> flaws of his station. (congratulations are in order for him
> BTW, he's now nationwide.)
>
> Sadly, who can celebrate it, NO ONE! Nothing is the same,
> as it was, even in Summer. A small upward movement, now
> dulled by all the new changes. Going Mainstream AC in 2001,
> was smart, continuing to call it Buzz, when only 1 real
> element of the Buzz still exists, that's the crime. A
> strong wind could knock it down, and that's a crime, to all
> the original staff, and the guys who started it.
>
> If that's a bit harsh, sorry, but to sugarcoat, when good
> folks like Argo, Nikki, and Tripp, are tossed out, so the
> SUCKZONE can be further increased. That's just STUPID! I
> will end on that rant. And, Congratulations again to Argo,
> that's a sweet gig! CFKane
I find it amazing that you keep your job with the amount of hate you throw on your boss people at Ridgeway.
>
> > They won't go Jack. They'd be eaten alive by FM 100.
> Steel
> > guitars would be a much better choice, IF the folks on
> > Ridgeway are thinking straight.
>
> I doubt it too, on the Jack concept. Jack's got an 18 month
> life span, (See Denver) if Denver tells an accurate tale.
> If they did go "JackFM", I seriously doubt 100 would impact
> them more than is already the case.
>
>
> > It was a DUMB ASS MOVE on Entercom's part to go
> > ModernAC, and they know it. If they don't, they're run by
>
> > people who really DON'T have a clue.
>
> Come on, Steve. You know that ModernAC was smart, and so
> did everyone else. Remember when 100 was swirling the bowl?
> Was staying Hot AC a dumb move for them? The Buzz that
> Jerry and Kramer put on the air, was a smart move.
> Currently, well...
>
> > Now, look what they've got. Four years after the flip and
>
> > WMBZ is headed for the toilet. But, hey, they squeezed a
> > year more life out of the format than I thought they
> would,
> > but probably only because they don't really know what to
> do
> > with it now. I will say that without Argo & Nikki, the
> > station lacks character and the music... well, why go
> > mainstream the way they did? Sounds like they are doing a
>
> > poor job of trying to be FM 100.
>
> Ironic, isn't it? The copier getting copied, by the once,
> original? (Going crosseyed having written that...) Other
> than the obvious success of "Whatever", FM 100 should send
> WMBZ a Christmas card. Seriously, one for every new slogan,
> every dumb*ss show change, every firing, Once for every hour
> that Kelly Clarkson plays twice in 59 minutes! It's only
> fair, I would! They are better than any contest, or tv
> campaign, at this point.
>
> Sadly, the guy who currently runs the show at WMBZ, in 2001
> probably wouldn't have been hired, as a part timer. What
> once was a powerhouse, is now racing downhill without an
> engine, and having it's a** handed to it, by a rusted out
> Sh*tbox. Sad, but who, since december, hasn't seen this
> outcome?
>
> Getting rid of Nikki, Argo, and Tripp, were only further
> proof. Now Deltaking relished in the fact that buzz tanked.
>
>
> But Delta, Steve, anyone, did you see, even despite the
> engineless station, what Middays, Afternoons and nights did
> in Summer? (W 18-34) Hell Argo did very well, despite the
> flaws of his station. (congratulations are in order for him
> BTW, he's now nationwide.)
>
> Sadly, who can celebrate it, NO ONE! Nothing is the same,
> as it was, even in Summer. A small upward movement, now
> dulled by all the new changes. Going Mainstream AC in 2001,
> was smart, continuing to call it Buzz, when only 1 real
> element of the Buzz still exists, that's the crime. A
> strong wind could knock it down, and that's a crime, to all
> the original staff, and the guys who started it.
>
> If that's a bit harsh, sorry, but to sugarcoat, when good
> folks like Argo, Nikki, and Tripp, are tossed out, so the
> SUCKZONE can be further increased. That's just STUPID! I
> will end on that rant. And, Congratulations again to Argo,
> that's a sweet gig! CFKane
I find it amazing that you keep your job with the amount of hate you throw on your boss people at Ridgeway.
>
Re: Summer Book...
I'd agree with you, but no one in that post, I "hated" on is, in any way, a boss of mine. You claim to know me, but I now doubt it, if you think this is the case. My actual boss, probably got a kick out of that post.(Yes, he knows who I am on this board.) If speaking my mind, on this board gets me canned, so be it. If you truly worked with me recently,(something you claimed once) you'd know how little concern this is for me. CFKane
> I find it amazing that you keep your job with the amount of
> hate you throw on your boss people at Ridgeway.
I'd agree with you, but no one in that post, I "hated" on is, in any way, a boss of mine. You claim to know me, but I now doubt it, if you think this is the case. My actual boss, probably got a kick out of that post.(Yes, he knows who I am on this board.) If speaking my mind, on this board gets me canned, so be it. If you truly worked with me recently,(something you claimed once) you'd know how little concern this is for me. CFKane
> I find it amazing that you keep your job with the amount of
> hate you throw on your boss people at Ridgeway.
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