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Sunny in Dallas bites the dust Thurs.

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R&R reports CC's Sunny in Dallas will change to a regional Mexican format on Thursday.
If you go to stoneage.yes.com, you'll see that the Dallas Sunny playlist is pretty close to the Philly one.
Dallas and Philly are different markets, of course. Anyone think Philly's 104.5 is ripe for a change?
 
> R&R reports CC's Sunny in Dallas will change to a regional
> Mexican format on Thursday.
> If you go to stoneage.yes.com, you'll see that the Dallas
> Sunny playlist is pretty close to the Philly one.
> Dallas and Philly are different markets, of course. Anyone
> think Philly's 104.5 is ripe for a change?
>
As you say, these are 2 much different markets. CC has been converting FMs in different areas to their format which is apparently Regional Mexican Oldies. Is this a format that would work with the Spanish audience in Philadelphia? My guess would be that if an FM went Spanish, it would be the "Hurban" type format to a younger more urban Spanish audience. I work with a professional woman from Columbia now living here who speaks English better than most of us but can't believe this area doesn't have a decent contemporary FM Spanish station as say New York does. But will Sunny be the one to go? We'll see, but I'm hoping for another Christmas season first, which of course is weeks away!
 
> R&R reports CC's Sunny in Dallas will change to a regional
> Mexican format on Thursday.
> If you go to stoneage.yes.com, you'll see that the Dallas
> Sunny playlist is pretty close to the Philly one.
> Dallas and Philly are different markets, of course. Anyone
> think Philly's 104.5 is ripe for a change?
>


yea I think sunny need's to go to an all oldies format just like wpen just not the info crap you get on wpen if sunny went all 50's and 60's they would beat out wogl sunny would probley be #3 in philly
 
> R&R reports CC's Sunny in Dallas will change to a regional
> Mexican format on Thursday.
> If you go to stoneage.yes.com, you'll see that the Dallas
> Sunny playlist is pretty close to the Philly one.
> Dallas and Philly are different markets, of course. Anyone
> think Philly's 104.5 is ripe for a change?
>
Didn't Dallas lose dance station KDL when it flipped to Hurban? What's the point of having more than one station with the same niche format?<P ID="signature">______________
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> > R&R reports CC's Sunny in Dallas will change to a regional
>
> > Mexican format on Thursday.
> > If you go to stoneage.yes.com, you'll see that the Dallas
> > Sunny playlist is pretty close to the Philly one.
> > Dallas and Philly are different markets, of course. Anyone
>
> > think Philly's 104.5 is ripe for a change?
> >
> Didn't Dallas lose dance station KDL when it flipped to
> Hurban? What's the point of having more than one station
> with the same niche format?
>

Gee, look how well Mega did In Philly.....CC knows Spanish here would fail miserably. Most Southern states, especiall Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and Nevada have large populations of Hispanic listeners. There's an audience built in, not here in Philly.

And, BTW, who really cares about Dallas.....except for the two times a year the Eagles have to play them? KDL.....nevermind, won't even go there.<P ID="signature">______________
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> Didn't Dallas lose dance station KDL when it flipped to
> Hurban? What's the point of having more than one station
> with the same niche format?

Hurban is nothing like the Regional Mexican format. Hurban targets 18-34 Hispanics of all nationalities. Regional Mexican targets 25-54, exclusively Mexicans.

While Hurban is a niche format, Regional Mexican is far from a niche in the Southwest. It's currently the #1 format in Dallas, so it makes sense that Clear Channel would want a piece of it.
 
> As you say, these are 2 much different markets. CC has been
> converting FMs in different areas to their format which is
> apparently Regional Mexican Oldies. Is this a format that
> would work with the Spanish audience in Philadelphia?

No. The Philadelphia Hispanic audience tends to be Puerto Rican, much like the New York Hispanic audience. There aren't that many Mexicans in the area, and certainly not enough to support a full-powered FM station.


> My
> guess would be that if an FM went Spanish, it would be the
> "Hurban" type format to a younger more urban Spanish
> audience. I work with a professional woman from Columbia
> now living here who speaks English better than most of us
> but can't believe this area doesn't have a decent
> contemporary FM Spanish station as say New York does. But
> will Sunny be the one to go?

It's possible, but I think CC would be wary of giving Q102 another competitor. The Hurban format has taken Hispanic listeners away from CHR and Rhythmic in other markets. Wired would probably be the station most hurt, but Q would fall too. CC's other option would be to do a Tropical format similar to the one on 1310 now. That format would aim a little older and not hurt Q as much. Still, I'd be surprised to see CC flip 104.5. It's doing a lot better than Dallas's Sunny was, and I'm sure it still brings in big bucks around Christmas time.

I don't think CC is going to give up on Q yet either. They still have respectable numbers 18-34.
 
> R&R reports CC's Sunny in Dallas will change to a regional
> Mexican format on Thursday.
> If you go to stoneage.yes.com, you'll see that the Dallas
> Sunny playlist is pretty close to the Philly one.
> Dallas and Philly are different markets, of course. Anyone
> think Philly's 104.5 is ripe for a change?
>

I've already made twenty Novenas to the Virgin of Guadeloupe to change SUNNY into a Regional Mexican-formatted station. Otherwise, how will I be able to unload that tractor-trailer full of those gold crown air fresheners for the dashboard or those cases of ceramic dogs with the heads that go up and down for the back windows? I'll sell them all to that new station for giveaways!

Now...where did I put my "Speedy Gonzalez For Presidente" giveaway sweatshirts?
 
I might be in the minority as far as Sunny goes, but...........I like the station just the way it is. They have added more variety of late and I don't want to see it change.

> > R&R reports CC's Sunny in Dallas will change to a regional
>
> > Mexican format on Thursday.
> > If you go to stoneage.yes.com, you'll see that the Dallas
> > Sunny playlist is pretty close to the Philly one.
> > Dallas and Philly are different markets, of course. Anyone
>
> > think Philly's 104.5 is ripe for a change?
> >
> As you say, these are 2 much different markets. CC has been
> converting FMs in different areas to their format which is
> apparently Regional Mexican Oldies. Is this a format that
> would work with the Spanish audience in Philadelphia? My
> guess would be that if an FM went Spanish, it would be the
> "Hurban" type format to a younger more urban Spanish
> audience. I work with a professional woman from Columbia
> now living here who speaks English better than most of us
> but can't believe this area doesn't have a decent
> contemporary FM Spanish station as say New York does. But
> will Sunny be the one to go? We'll see, but I'm hoping for
> another Christmas season first, which of course is weeks
> away!
>
 
Nothing against any ethnic group, but I think owners are going out of their way in this country to cater to the Hispanic/Mexican population, more than any other group. To signify one group, this country was heavily German in the 50's/60's, but no German outlets were springing up like Hispanic. My cable has over 25 Hispanic music outlets out of 45. I personally don't understand nor care to learn Spanish, music or otherwise, why must I be subjected to it. In the immortal words of Rodney King, can't we all get along and speak one language, English.
 
> I might be in the minority as far as Sunny goes,
> but...........I like the station just the way it is. They
> have added more variety of late and I don't want to see it
> change.

I'll join your minority. With the exception of the Barney-esque voice on that irritating Glenn Hollis, I'd like Sunny to stay as-is for years and years.
 
> > I might be in the minority as far as Sunny goes,
> > but...........I like the station just the way it is. They
>
> > have added more variety of late and I don't want to see it
>
> > change.
>
> I'll join your minority. With the exception of the
> Barney-esque voice on that irritating Glenn Hollis, I'd like
> Sunny to stay as-is for years and years.
>

Count me in too. I really enjoy Sunny. I will also agree with you on Glenn Hollis, but I bet the women listeners don't mind.<P ID="signature">______________
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> R&R reports CC's Sunny in Dallas will change to a regional
> Mexican format on Thursday.
> If you go to stoneage.yes.com, you'll see that the Dallas
> Sunny playlist is pretty close to the Philly one.
> Dallas and Philly are different markets, of course. Anyone
> think Philly's 104.5 is ripe for a change?
>

I think (and hope) that Sunny will be safe. They make a lot of money and it is cheaply run. Plus Sunny is a big money maker during the holidays. Speaking of holidays, who beats it to the punch for holiday music, B101 or Sunny?<P ID="signature">______________
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'Minority' population surge...

> Nothing against any ethnic group, but I think owners are
> going out of their way in this country to cater to the
> Hispanic/Mexican population, more than any other group. To
> signify one group, this country was heavily German in the
> 50's/60's, but no German outlets were springing up like
> Hispanic. My cable has over 25 Hispanic music outlets out
> of 45. I personally don't understand nor care to learn
> Spanish, music or otherwise, why must I be subjected to it.
> In the immortal words of Rodney King, can't we all get along
> and speak one language, English.
>


http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8902484/

Not that the article has anything directly to do with this thread, but I figured the article would interest you anyway.

'Owners' are catering to Hispanics they're now the largest ethnic cultural group (not a racial group) in the country. Now, they all aren't fans of regional Mexican music and reggaeton, but there's plenty of them that are to make corporations take them seriously.

You might wanna change your stance about NOT wanting to learn Spanish--I can't speak it myself, but I'd wager it'd be much more fruitful (and personally lucrative in terms of your career) if more people learned fluent Spanish instead of English being insisted upon. <P ID="signature">______________
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Re: 'Minority' population surge...

> > Nothing against any ethnic group, but I think owners are
> > going out of their way in this country to cater to the
> > Hispanic/Mexican population, more than any other group.
> To
> > signify one group, this country was heavily German in the
> > 50's/60's, but no German outlets were springing up like
> > Hispanic. My cable has over 25 Hispanic music outlets out
>
> > of 45. I personally don't understand nor care to learn
> > Spanish, music or otherwise, why must I be subjected to
> it.
> > In the immortal words of Rodney King, can't we all get
> along
> > and speak one language, English.
> >
>
>
> http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8902484/
>
> Not that the article has anything directly to do with this
> thread, but I figured the article would interest you anyway.
>
>
> 'Owners' are catering to Hispanics they're now the largest
> ethnic cultural group (not a racial group) in the country.
> Now, they all aren't fans of regional Mexican music and
> reggaeton, but there's plenty of them that are to make
> corporations take them seriously.
>
> You might wanna change your stance about NOT wanting to
> learn Spanish--I can't speak it myself, but I'd wager it'd
> be much more fruitful (and personally lucrative in terms of
> your career) if more people learned fluent Spanish instead
> of English being insisted upon.
>

So we have to give up the language we have been speaking for hundreds of years? Hopefully it won't go that far. Well, I will be learning Spanish anyway, mainly for business.<P ID="signature">______________
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"Para Ingles..."

> So we have to give up the language we have been speaking for
> hundreds of years? Hopefully it won't go that far. Well, I
> will be learning Spanish anyway, mainly for business.
>

Ummm...

What sheltered area have you been in for the last few years? You don't speak Spanish in America just for business purposes anymore...you speak it for survival! When was the last time you called a business and DIDN'T hear "For English, press one; para Espanol, marque el dos"?

Any decent job in the Miami/Ft. Lauderdale area requires...REQUIRES...you to be bi-lingual...Espanol y Ingles! If you REALLY want to be considered, add Creole as a third language for the huge Haitian community there.

Hispanics/Latinos are not only the largest minority in the US (African-Americans are now third), but, by 2050, will be the MAJORITY racially and/or ethnically due to their large birth-rate.

Personally, I believe that in about two hundred years...give or take a decade...we will all have interbred to the point that everyone on earth will be sort of a tan color and speak a language that sounds like Desi Arnaz, Pepe LePew and James Earl Jones all combined.

Plus, that's gonna be one helluva tasty cuisine!
 
Re: 'Minority' population surge...

> So we have to give up the language we have been speaking for
> hundreds of years? Hopefully it won't go that far. Well, I
> will be learning Spanish anyway, mainly for business.
>
Well, neither our founding fathers nor the politicians that came after them could ever get around to making English the "official" language of the United States--and it only be a huge can of worms (politically and socially) to do so now with so many new Americans from other lands. So what can you do but learn another language?

Besides, we'd never 'give up' English anyway--it's pretty much the unofficial buisness language. And don't forget, learning Spanish here in the States would be like the Japanese or citizens of Spain learning English as a second language. The rest of the world is already speaking more than one language, so the United States really shouldn't be that different, IMO. <P ID="signature">______________
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Re: "Para Ingles..."

> > So we have to give up the language we have been speaking
> for
> > hundreds of years? Hopefully it won't go that far. Well, I
>
> > will be learning Spanish anyway, mainly for business.
> >
>
> Ummm...
>
> What sheltered area have you been in for the last few years?
> You don't speak Spanish in America just for business
> purposes anymore...you speak it for survival! When was the
> last time you called a business and DIDN'T hear "For
> English, press one; para Espanol, marque el dos"?
>
> Any decent job in the Miami/Ft. Lauderdale area
> requires...REQUIRES...you to be bi-lingual...Espanol y
> Ingles! If you REALLY want to be considered, add Creole as a
> third language for the huge Haitian community there.
>
> Hispanics/Latinos are not only the largest minority in the
> US (African-Americans are now third), but, by 2050, will be
> the MAJORITY racially and/or ethnically due to their large
> birth-rate.
>
> Personally, I believe that in about two hundred years...give
> or take a decade...we will all have interbred to the point
> that everyone on earth will be sort of a tan color and speak
> a language that sounds like Desi Arnaz, Pepe LePew and James
> Earl Jones all combined.
>
> Plus, that's gonna be one helluva tasty cuisine!
>

The key words in my post were "mainly for business purposes". I go down to South Florida often and lots of the streets are named in Spanish. I will be learning Spanish for survival also, lol. It will take a while for Spanish to dominate past English, if it gets that far.
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