Super Hits of the 60's, 70's, and 80's

[Apollo7979]

I have to agree with Unplugged with this one. Mark is the boss. He controls who stays and who goes. He's just blessed with a solid, heritage line-up, and a station that's entrenched in the market and has stayed loyal to it's format for 30+ years. Also, if you have ever read any of Mark's posts here and elsewhere on the Radio-info site, you'll see that this guy knows his stuff. He's not just some idiot allowing the station to run on autopilot. Ever since Mark has been PD, he's made K105 bigger and better than it has been in years and from the looks of the numbers, people are still digging the station as a whole, not just the jocks.

 

[Lafayette Unplugged]

I'd like to make a request:

Please tell Dan Sommers to put a different music bed in the automation. Every time his voice track comes on, you hear it kick into that pseuda/faux Beach Boys-type mx bed. I know radio is all about branding and shoving it down people's throats until they "get it", but that's overkill.

Also, the "OOOooooooh, Love'em!" liner that plays only at night and over and over has got to go.

Thanks!!!

 

[donkeypuncher]

I have to agree with Unplugged with this one that squeelygirl sound just grates on the nerves very quickly!

 

[Lafayette Unplugged]

I'd like to make a request:

Please tell Dan Sommers to put a different music bed in the automation. Every time his voice track comes on, you hear it kick into that pseuda/faux Beach Boys-type mx bed.

Nobody's listening. I still hear it.

 

[radiolover78]

Uh no pally...sorry to upset your lovely outlook on the world...but I haven't found a SINGLE bright spot outside of high cume for ANY Jack type station. Its like any station or format, done well it can work....but sweepers and AC/DC into Timbuk 3 ain't gonna cut it. (especially after hearing that combo for the 4th time)

There are a lot of Jack and Adult Hits stations (The Arch, Bob, etc) that are actually doing very well. Nice try though.

And Steppenwolf, we get it. You hate Jack. You don't have to say it everytime there's a discussion on it.

 

[Steppenwolf]

There are a lot of Jack and Adult Hits stations (The Arch, Bob, etc) that are actually doing very well. Nice try though.

And Steppenwolf, we get it. You hate Jack. You don't have to say it everytime there's a discussion on it.
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Kev, I think you need stronger glasses. This is the Indiana board, not the 80s/90s board. And oh, before I forget to mention it, the Jack format stinks. That's because it's not radio, it's a jukebox. You and two others are the only ones who submit posts to support the format. You must be related to someone who consults a station with the Jack approach.

 

[radiofriend1]

And oh, before I forget to mention it, the Jack format stinks. That's because it's not radio, it's a jukebox. You and two others are the only ones who submit posts to support the format. You must be related to someone who consults a station with the Jack approach.

millions are listening to it nationwide.

just becuz u don't like it doesn't mean **IT STINKS**. doesn't matter if it is not your style of radio, people are listening to it in droves in dozens markets around america

it IS radio becuz (see if u can follow this) it is................................ON THE RADIO.

what if some people don't want deejays???? do they not have the right to freely choose what they like and not have it dissed [EDIT]???????????

[EDIT-personal attack]

 

[Lafayette Unplugged]

I always thought the concept of "Jack" and similar formats was funny.

"We play everything!" Yeah, it's called "radio before the 90's came around and owners/programmers/consultants/FCC/Clear Channel homogenized everything and stunk it up and killed the spontanaity". Nothing new.

Having said that, Jack is still run by lifelong radio people who will still feel the need to have a "clock" for every hour or "consult" it to death. We expected that to change? "So 'Jack' is totally random?" "Why, yes, randomly but yet tightly formatted like other stations". Huh?
You even hear that on satellite radio with stupid liners using TV and movie bits and a breathy sexy chick who sounds like she's trying to be cool (just watch the "Family Guy" episode from a couple weeks ago with "Weenie and the Butt" for a dead-on assessment of what's wrong with radio).

Even escaping to satellite you still have to put up with traditional ways to do liners, branding, etc. because it's run by radio "lifers" who can't do it any other way.
Different won't sell so nobody's buying.

"Jack" is better than jack squat, I guess. So I begrudginly support it for at least trying, okay?

 

[Steppenwolf]

"Jack" is better than jack squat, I guess.

I wish I'd thought of that "image liner"...Jack Squat.

 

[Lafayette Unplugged]

Good jock name, too!

Feel free to use either at no charge...

 

[Apollo7979]

Dibs on "Jack Squat"!

 

[KillerOldiesJock]

Well if the powers that be would stop paying consultants the station would change to a more 70s 80s line-up, they got the PD over there hog tied every time he makes a positive move.

 

[Lafayette Unplugged]

Well if the powers that be would stop paying consultants the station would change to a more 70s 80s line-up, they got the PD over there hog tied every time he makes a positive move.

I lost track, Killer.

Are you talking about WASK or Jack?

And what consultanting firm are they using if they are indeed using one?

 

[OldiesCat]

the consultants

Well if the powers that be would stop paying consultants the station would change to a more 70s 80s line-up, they got the PD over there hog tied every time he makes a positive move.

I have several questions for you:

1) what "consultant" are you referring to?

2) what "consultant" hog-ties the PD and why would they supposedly do so when he makes positive moves? I assume by "positive move" you mean ratings results (?)


I just love these shake & bake "blame the consultants" accusations. You may find this hard to believe, but few stations in large to major markets even hire "consultants" anymore. But I believe the major inferrence here is the typical "how can anybody from outside your local market possibly have anything worth contributing in another market". Mostly, we hear that from uninformed disc jockeys who've been fed that line by management as an excuse why their station isn't doing so well (the "blame the consultant" is pretty easy) OR it's from bitter, frustrated radio hacks who've never really made it in the biz and have to have somebody to blame.

I'll leave you with one last thought on the whole "the consultants" thing: does it ever occour to the anti-consultant crowd that the consultant actually works FOR the radio station? They don't own the stations, they are not higher on the food chain than GMs or corporate executives and, on top of it all, it is in any consultant's best interest that the stations they work with become successful.

This whole "the consultant flushed the station down the drain" is nearly impossible and almost always the result of a station tanking for a ton of other reasons and blaming "the consultant" as a way to c.y.a.

 

[Timewarp]

Many DJs think they have a right to their freedom of artistic expression by saying and playing
what they want on the air. They don't understand that the boss is paying them to do a job
and that is the job they should be doing. It is this kind of attitude from employees that has
made automation so popular today.
The boss is tired of fighting with big fat egos and the computer will do what I tell it to do
and it won't bad mouth me around town while I am paying it a check. And it won't steal
from me either.

 

[Lafayette Unplugged]

Re: the consultants

Well if the powers that be would stop paying consultants the station would change to a more 70s 80s line-up, they got the PD over there hog tied every time he makes a positive move.

Mostly, we hear that from uninformed disc jockeys who've been fed that line by management as an excuse why their station isn't doing so well (the "blame the consultant" is pretty easy) OR it's from bitter, frustrated radio hacks who've never really made it in the biz and have to have somebody to blame.

I'll leave you with one last thought on the whole "the consultants" thing: does it ever occour to the anti-consultant crowd that the consultant actually works FOR the radio station? They don't own the stations, they are not higher on the food chain than GMs or corporate executives and, on top of it all, it is in any consultant's best interest that the stations they work with become successful.

This whole "the consultant flushed the station down the drain" is nearly impossible and almost always the result of a station tanking for a ton of other reasons and blaming "the consultant" as a way to c.y.a.

You make some strong points here. Here's the other side of the coin:

There are going to be cases where the consultant makes the GM happy and to do that becomes the "henchman" for the GM telling the PD what to do and how to do it rather than the GM having the sack to do it himself.
Then the PD can damn the consultant all to hell all he wants, but he'd better not complain to the owner or GM who hired the consultant. That's how the PD paints himself in a corner and then both the GM and owner can say, "Well, he didn't follow the consultant's advice and we failed". OR they have great results and praise the consultant and send the PD packing as if he didn't have anything to do with the management of the airstaff or the station's day-to-day successes.

In this scenario, the GM can play both sides: "Yes, I hired the consultant but the PD wouldn't listen" whatever the outcome.
The consultant keeps his job by doing the GM's bidding.
If the PD is a good leader, the airstaff will be loyal to him and if a consultant who just got off the plane and wants to dictate what direction the station is going to go based on a couple of days and aircheck sessions, that same airstaff will say, "We're the home team. We know what the community wants to hear. We trust the PD to know the market based on his years of BEING HERE, not you visiting twice a year on the company's credit card".

Consulting is desparately needed by certain radio stations and absolutely NOT needed by others.

Just giving another side.

 

[donkeypuncher]

Re: the consultants

and i helped! shake and bake!

Who ever said that the jocks don't do what the owner wants and thats why their is tracking is really missing the point its plain and simple ninty-nine percent of the time just a cost cutter plain and simple if you dont have to pay those hours its a way too save money/ its got nothing to do with egos or djs getting out of line on the raydeeoo!