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Sure Hot is playing Old Skool...but where's the new R&B?

R

Radiogeek500

Anyone like me noticing a LACK of new R&B on KHHT? They aren't even playing the new Mariah Carey song Shake It off. Seems like gold and re current city at KHHT.

I guess Mike Marino really is seeing gold. Gold as in Old Skool for both KHHT and KYSR.

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> Anyone like me noticing a LACK of new R&B on KHHT? They
> aren't even playing the new Mariah Carey song Shake It off.
> Seems like gold and re current city at KHHT.
>
> I guess Mike Marino really is seeing gold. Gold as in Old
> Skool for both KHHT and KYSR.

Seen the Hot numbers? It seems to be working. Solid, adult numbers and lots of nice growth. He's doing a good job, and I expect to see the same from Star, too.
 
Meanwhile, speaking of KYSR.....

.....The station was dropped from the Billboard Radio Monitor Adult Top 40 panel this week(October 7th).
 
Re: Meanwhile, speaking of KYSR.....

> .....The station was dropped from the Billboard Radio
> Monitor Adult Top 40 panel this week(October 7th).
>

I had a station dropped a few years ago, and we celebrated. The lobby miraculously emptied of quacking record ducks chanting a chorus of "play my record."
 
> > Anyone like me noticing a LACK of new R&B on KHHT? They
> > aren't even playing the new Mariah Carey song Shake It
> off.
> > Seems like gold and re current city at KHHT.
> >
> > I guess Mike Marino really is seeing gold. Gold as in Old
> > Skool for both KHHT and KYSR.
>
> Seen the Hot numbers? It seems to be working. Solid, adult
> numbers and lots of nice growth. He's doing a good job, and
> I expect to see the same from Star, too.
>

I've also noticed the lack of new R&B on Hot but I do agree with David. Regarding the new R&B, KJLH is focusing on it...just too bad their signal is weak.
 
>
> I've also noticed the lack of new R&B on Hot but I do agree
> with David. Regarding the new R&B, KJLH is focusing on
> it...just too bad their signal is weak.
>

In fact, I have been hearing Hot around town in stores and places... something that did not happen previously. The mix is pretty nice, actually.

Last place I heard it was while getting my hair trimmed... at a salon that was really LA. Some Asians, some Hispanics, some Blacks... all likeing Hot.
 
Re: Meanwhile, speaking of KYSR.....

> > .....The station was dropped from the Billboard Radio
> > Monitor Adult Top 40 panel this week(October 7th).
> >
>
> I had a station dropped a few years ago, and we celebrated.
> The lobby miraculously emptied of quacking record ducks
> chanting a chorus of "play my record."
>

Er... "Record Ducks?"

Help, I need a radio-to-english dickshoneary...
 
Re: Meanwhile, speaking of KYSR.....

> Er... "Record Ducks?"
>
> Help, I need a radio-to-english dickshoneary...
>

record ducks (noun) def: 1. The recording industry's version of vacuum cleaner salesmen, often come armed with useless crap and want to waste a good deal of your time. 2. The reason PD's have MD's and APD's.
 
Re: Meanwhile, speaking of KYSR.....

> > > .....The station was dropped from the Billboard Radio
> > > Monitor Adult Top 40 panel this week(October 7th).
> > >
> >
> > I had a station dropped a few years ago, and we
> celebrated.
> > The lobby miraculously emptied of quacking record ducks
> > chanting a chorus of "play my record."
> >
>
> Er... "Record Ducks?"
>
> Help, I need a radio-to-english dickshoneary...
>

Record promotors.

As the music director of one LA station had on his answering machine a few years ago, "If you are promoting a song, you can hang up now."
 
> >
> > I've also noticed the lack of new R&B on Hot but I do
> agree
> > with David. Regarding the new R&B, KJLH is focusing on
> > it...just too bad their signal is weak.
> >
>
> In fact, I have been hearing Hot around town in stores and
> places... something that did not happen previously. The mix
> is pretty nice, actually.
>
> Last place I heard it was while getting my hair trimmed...
> at a salon that was really LA. Some Asians, some Hispanics,
> some Blacks... all likeing Hot.
>

I've also been surprised hearing Hot in different businesses around LA. I went to a black owned BBQ restaurant in Van Nuys recently and was surprised to see a Hot sticker on the window and hearing Hot in the restaurant. And I noticed blacks, hispanics and whites enjoying Hot.

It would be nice to hear more current music on Hot especially since there is so much good new R&B out right now but musically, Hot does sound good. It just would be nice to have a station in LA with a good signal that focused on the current R&B. I just wonder how KJLH would be doing if they had a full market signal.
 
Re: I thought those were Parrots?

Thought Sony/BMG, Universal, and others had their parrots doing the annoying jobs?

Sony/BMG: Agh Agh, Polly want my record played

Universal: Agh Agh, David, can you play this record? Polly says your listeners will like it.

Heh heh.


> > > > .....The station was dropped from the Billboard Radio
> > > > Monitor Adult Top 40 panel this week(October 7th).
> > > >
> > >
> > > I had a station dropped a few years ago, and we
> > celebrated.
> > > The lobby miraculously emptied of quacking record ducks
> > > chanting a chorus of "play my record."
> > >
> >
> > Er... "Record Ducks?"
> >
> > Help, I need a radio-to-english dickshoneary...
> >
>
> Record promotors.
>
> As the music director of one LA station had on his answering
> machine a few years ago, "If you are promoting a song, you
> can hang up now."
>
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Re: Meanwhile, speaking of KYSR.....

heh heh... it's true!

- Doc

> 2. The reason PD's have MD's and APD's.
 
Funny you should say that because you’re basically describing what KKBT is supposed to be. I’ve constantly criticized KKBT for years ago chasing after being a churban and failing miserably. Management there is/has been so misguided. Ten years ago KKBT was a top five, 4.0-rating station. An award-winning mainstream urban with a diverse listenership. You would see “The Beat” stickers on cars all over LA. Hot didn’t exist and KJLH was struggling just to get and stay above a 0.9 rating. KIIS had abandoned its rhythmic sound of the early 90s. Harold Austin and Mariana Snider should get major kudos for their work there @ KKBT. Then, in the Steve Smith/Michelle Santuosso PD era they tried a more churban approach and the Beat fell off big time and has never truly recovered. KJLH with its weak signal gradually grew and has almost doubled its audience achieving a 2.1 for two books last year. A door opened allowing Mega/Hot to exist. Meanwhile Power has grown, totally leaving the Beat in its dust. And now there’s KDAY, KIIS is more rhythmic, The Wave has swung back to including more R&B (mainly gold). Even KBIG is playing more R&B crossover music. KKBT should be reasserting itself a true contemporary R&B station. They should own Usher, Alicia Keys, Beyonce, John Legend, Fantasia, R. Kelly, Mariah Carey, Kem, etc. Add more gold which it currently nonexistent in their programming. Drop most (not necessarily all) the hip-hop when you have Power and KDAY laying legitimate claim to that genre. Focus on females. The station seems to want to go in that direction but never commits to it. I don’t know if current management and PD Tom C. have the desire and/or ability to do so.

I live in the Valley and have heard Hot in several retail establishments where there is black management and/or there are mainly Latino or black workers. Their website’s photos definitely show that they have mass appeal. I don’t think it would hurt to add more current music or at least expand the library of gold that they do play. I liked the variety of the station when it first debuted.

IMO KJLH is unfocused now and I think that has contributed to its ratings drop. They’ll play an Usher or Destiny’s Child tune, then a gospel tune, then a hip-hop (?!) tune, then an old school, then a smooth jazz, then some obscure new artist, etc. It’s like their trying to grabs listeners simultaneously from 5 other stations. It would be nice if they refocused on the sound they had last year AND increased their signal [but then I woke up].

I think some programmers underestimate how many adults want to hear R&B without too much or any rap.
 
> KJLH with its weak signal
> gradually grew and has almost doubled its audience achieving
> a 2.1 for two books last year.

While this just barely keeps from breaking the rule on posting ratings numbers, I would still caution being this specific.

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