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I know this board tends to focus on Eastern WA, but I didn't see it appropriate to put it on the SeaTac board. I didn't hear any personalities on the NNB stations in Astoria, and I didn't realize how big of a mistake they made when they took KAST off the air. Hot AC is already served in that region by KJET. What should happen is Bill W could flip KLSY to oldies/classic hits, and NNB could flip KLMY to KAST and restore AC to that area. Any thoughts? I stil can't figure out what KQCB's format is.
 
I thought KLSY 107.9 was classic rock. With those heritage calls, I always thought a mainstream/soft AC would be the ticket (and KJET should be an alternative rocker), like the original Seattle bearers of those famed sets of call letters.

Kurt Cobain once said KJET (the legendary Seattle AM alternative rock station) was his favorite radio station. And now the KJET letters now grace a radio station in Cobain's hometown of Aberdeen.

Indie-leaning Alternative somehow only seems right on 105.7 MHz, if not downright natural. Maybe not in the eyes of Mr. Wolfenbarger. But it would really be SUPER cool if it actually were......

I think KQCB is AAA.....
 
Where's Bill W when you need him? I didn't think about that, and he probably didn't want to take the AC format due to Sunny 102.1 having a similar format. KLSY is a classic rock, but it has competition on both ends of its signal, from KDUX in the north and KCRX in the south, but stil no oldies format. You bring up a good point about KJET, but I'd sure miss the jet as it currently is, really like that station. In that case, CHR on 98.1 would that work? There is just enough radio in that area to have one station in each format, with the exception of rhythmic contemporary and adult hits. The problem with that area is that there are quite a few signals that don't cover the broadcast area from Seaside to Long Beach. KJET's signal does appear to do so, as it appears to be beamed directly north to south, the signal appears to go out as you get farther inland. To be clear, what we've come up with so far is KQCB keeps its format, 98.1 (I forget the calls) flips to CHR, KDDS, KLMY, KCRX, and KVAS sstay the same, KJET goes alternative, and KLSY goes AC. We're stil missing an oldies format, where would that come in? Someone constructs a station on 95.9?
 
There is oldies, but very little. 100.7 out of Lincoln City (KPPT) gets out well to the North. Heard them in Pacific Beach, over 150 miles away. Then you have Brian Spencer's tiny xlators of KGHO-LP on 92.7 and 107.3.

-crainbebo
 
I picked up KPPT in Long Beach, but it was extremely weak, and I couldn't get any of the translators on my IPod. Actually though, I remember that there was an oldies station on AM in Astoria.
 
Ah, the good old days when the closest transmitters to Long Beach were in Astoria.
Think your Ipod was overloaded by the FMs on the hill south of Seaview (Cape Dissapointment).
 
Overloaded? what gives you that idea? KPPT beeing extremely weak? It doesn't seem like 3 transmittors in close proximity would cause that kind of interfeerance. The little radio I took when I was living in the University District was probably overloaded, I could only pick up a few stations clearly.
 
An iPod's radio is pretty bad for long-range (distant) listening. I use a Grundig G5 portable AM/FM/LW/SW for my logs and trips. KPPT comes in pretty good, with slight fuzz and interference from KKWF, at Pacific Beach, WA; at least 150 miles from Depoe Bay; KCRF 96.7, KSHL 97.5 and 102.7 KYTE also came in, former and latter best. K-Shell was hammered by KOMO splatter in most areas but sometimes I could null it and hear an OK KSHL. One occasion, heard All Classical (KQAC)'s satellite in Gleneden Beach (KQOC 88.1). I think the power is quite low IIRC.

-crainbebo
 
I think a smooth jazz type station would do well on the coast. played for Tourists relaxing at their beach houses and in restaurants and stores. Like the station in Coos Bay at 105.9. There is no station to relax to in the Long Beach or Hoquim areas.
 
No chance at Coos Bay 105.9 due to distance, and KFBW. Smooth Jazz should be added to the coast! Maybe Brian Spencer can put Smooth Jazz somewhere...

-crainbebo
 
JakeMott said:
I think a smooth jazz type station would do well on the coast. played for Tourists relaxing at their beach houses and in restaurants and stores. Like the station in Coos Bay at 105.9. There is no station to relax to in the Long Beach or Hoquim areas.
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That, or I've always thought that a station similar to 105.5 WDUV in Tampa would be perfect for the coast. 60's, 70's, 80's, and 90's AC, chill enough to relax to, but not too chill to put people to sleep.

As someone who visits Ocean Shores quite regularly I'd say the most relaxing station (as far as presentation goes anyway) is Mixx 96.1 KXXO, which has a pretty good signal out there. From what I've experienced though in my many years scouting out the coastal radio scene is that people (at least in Gray Harbor/Ocean Shores area) is that most stores, businesses, and hotel lobbies, etc seem to have either on 104.7 KDUX, Sunny 102.1, Mixx 96.1 or KYAO 89.5. Not that these are official studies by any means, but just what I've happened to noticed over the years.

As for an oldies format (as mentioned above) I remember whan KGHO was alive and well on 95.3 and, as opposed to cluttering the coastal FM scene with all these damn LP's and translators, it would be cool if it could be put on one bigger solid signal.

Just my thoughts for what they're worth, as someone who frequents the coast alot.
 
butlin said:
JakeMott said:
I think a smooth jazz type station would do well on the coast. played for Tourists relaxing at their beach houses and in restaurants and stores. Like the station in Coos Bay at 105.9. There is no station to relax to in the Long Beach or Hoquim areas.
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That, or I've always thought that a station similar to 105.5 WDUV in Tampa would be perfect for the coast. 60's, 70's, 80's, and 90's AC, chill enough to relax to, but not too chill to put people to sleep.

As someone who visits Ocean Shores quite regularly I'd say the most relaxing station (as far as presentation goes anyway) is Mixx 96.1 KXXO, which has a pretty good signal out there. From what I've experienced though in my many years scouting out the coastal radio scene is that people (at least in Gray Harbor/Ocean Shores area) is that most stores, businesses, and hotel lobbies, etc seem to have either on 104.7 KDUX, Sunny 102.1, Mixx 96.1 or KYAO 89.5. Not that these are official studies by any means, but just what I've happened to noticed over the years.

As for an oldies format (as mentioned above) I remember whan KGHO was alive and well on 95.3 and, as opposed to cluttering the coastal FM scene with all these damn LP's and translators, it would be cool if it could be put on one bigger solid signal.

Just my thoughts for what they're worth, as someone who frequents the coast alot.
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You're not the only one who's heard KYAO blaring from a radio somewhere down there. They're pretty popular.
 
I was in the Pacific Beach area in July and noticed KYAO 89.5 off. With that, I logged KTCB Tillamook, OR and KNHC Seattle (never knew C89.5 would come in THAT west, but it was VERY weak).

-crainbebo
 
Thanks for the programming tips, guys. The funny thing is I never asked for KJET or KLSY call letters.

KJET was part of a call letter swap a dozen years ago with KSWW, KFMY, KAPV. The idea was that KJET was parked on my unbuilt 105.7 CP, moving KFMY to 97.7 and KSWW to 102.1, replacing KAPV. And KJET began as oldies. We had trouble selling it. KJET didn't really take off until we a)hired Johnny Manson to do mornings, and b) added an on-channel booster in Aberdeen, and c) added a 93.1 translator in East Grays Harbor County.

KLSY calls were on 107.9 when we bought it. KLSY is moving to 107.3 and coming north about 20 miles. This will hurt us towards Long Beach, but put us in market for Grays Harbor.
 
Bill, watch out, KLSY won't be listenable in the Ocean Shores area due to one of Brian Spencer's translators on 107.3. Best to stay where it's at.

Another question: Has KSWW always been on the Hits and Favorites sat-fed network since it's inception (except for Rhys Davis?)

-crainbebo
 
No. Translators are "secondary service". I have the CP to move to 107.3 and to Cosmopolis. Brian has already a CP to move to 107.9 when I move to 107.3. If he hadn't filed for the change, he'd be toast.

KSWW - we tossed out ABC/Citadel/Cumulus when they pulled the old "fire everybody" trick two or three years ago. Citadel let almost everybody go right around Thanksgiving, including some I had become friends with, like Peter Stewart. We terminated Hits and Favorites and also their Hot AC service, same story. Having been to Dallas and visited the ABC studios a couple of times, I can only imagine how empty that building is now. When we were out there, we saw a couple dozen studios all with live people doing shows. Citadel canned all but a few, then their affiliate reps left, now Cumulus is chopping even more.
 
Still, after you tossed ABC's HF and Today's Best Hits network out, what network are you using now? Is it Dial Global?

-crainbebo
 
Yessir. AC, Hot AC, Hot Country, Classic Rock. At the moment.
 
Bill, Thanks for jumping in here. Interesting that you use Dial Global's network rather than Today's Best Hits for The Jet, as it uses that slogan. Also, has anyone started a wikipedia article for KLSY yet? Is streaming a part of the plan for any of your stations other than KBKW Bill?
 
On all the Dial-Global formats we use, I prefer the music mix as well as the talent. And, for all our FMs, we prefer live network programming than voice-tracked local. We can take the network or we can VT, but it's refreshing to hear an up-to-date sports score or news item on a Sunday afternoon, while our competition is running tracks from Friday.

As far as streaming, I'm still on the fence. I'm not real interested in paying for someone from upstate New York to hear my stream, and my local clients wouldn't see any benefit either. On the other hand, it would be nice to fill in a few gaps in coverage. Then there's the issue of agency spots that cannot run on a stream, due to AFTRA. It's cool to say "on the world wide web", but it's not cheap if you have significant listenership. And if you don't, why bother? My guess is we'll start doing some streaming, but not simply the OTA transmission.

KBKW stream is cheap because music is incidental bumper music for the most part.
 
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