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T-1 to do a remote/show with

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zach_morton

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Does anyone have any idea the costs and feasibility of doing a remote on T-1 so that we could do a complete show from location. Can't go into much detail about why I'm asking this, but just that I want to see if it is still being done!
 
In my experience T-1's are kind of long term commitments say as a studio to transmitter link that you plan to use a few years. I think they cost a bit of time and money to install.
If it's just a one time or several time remote location ISDN circuits are quite popular for that.
If it's even less lead time and less budget you can use a regular phone line and hookup one of the popular codecs to it to give you more audio bandwidth and quality.
As far as cost, I think there's a one time construction fee then a monthly recurring charge. If you are going T-1, there's companies that can put together the whole package, say local tail ends from your telco and maybe a longdistance provider link in the middle then they package the whole thing and become the point of contact if you need service.

I've used these people for long term T-1's with good results
http://www.amerinet.com/service_ad.htm
 
zach_morton said:
Does anyone have any idea the costs and feasibility of doing a remote on T-1 so that we could do a complete show from location. Can't go into much detail about why I'm asking this, but just that I want to see if it is still being done!
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Zach...

Is ISDN not a possiblity? What are you calling a complete show?

t123
 
Playing music and everything, in stereo, from the site.
 
I've done dozens of nightclub remotes for stations using a Zephyr at Layer 3 56/32 over an ISDN line. IF you need ancilliary data or LAN connections then you may need ot do something else, but for the audio portions and talkback I'd stay with an ISDN as the T-1 lines I've priced can go for as much as 1,100.00 a month in my area.
 
One other option is DSL. If you can get it, you may have as much bandwidth as a T-1 at a much lower price. Use a VPN link to secure the connection. If the connection is relatively local - which it would need to be for a T-1 - you'll probably have minimal latency. Latency would really only be a problem getting into and out of the show if everything is coming from the remote site. A little-known fact is that the phone company uses ADSL to provide "T-1" service to a lot of places within range of the Central Office. Many phone companies offer high-speed DSL for $50.00 / month.

The next problem is interfacing. Make sure you've got a box and/or codec on either end that use the bandwidth efficiently.
 
zach_morton said:
Does anyone have any idea the costs and feasibility of doing a remote on T-1 so that we could do a complete show from location. Can't go into much detail about why I'm asking this, but just that I want to see if it is still being done!
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Usually a T1 is priced on a year or two contract...if you plan to do this only once or twice, ISDN or dry audio pairs would be cheaper in the long run (after adding in the equipment and any toll charges, it may not be that much cheaper!)...to use a T1, you will need a channel bank at each end (or codec/decoder pair...) to digitize the 15kHz stereo audio on one end and then back to analog or AES on the other (Harris Intraplex, QEI or similar)..nothing different than a T1 STL but tis NOT cheap, Zach....(think about Joyner and other similar shows that use them ;)
 
As I research today, I'm finding new avenues. T-1 is almost out, due to price and length of time to install. But, I can install a VPN point-to-point link using my ISP, then some sort of stream. I am looking for a low cost method to do that, but on the studio end, I'll just use win-amp or some program similar to decode it. Getting into and out of breaks isn't a problem...the talent actually has to "think"...use a timer to time out their breaks. That way, from the second they quit talking, they have say...three minutes...using a bed to get in and out. When three minutes pass, they'll just start talking again, the board-op will rejoin them. It'll rock!
 
Grab a Barix Instreamer and Exstreamer combo and run them across an ADSL Internet connection.

Instreamer
http://www.smarthome.com/7666.html

Exstreamer
http://www.smarthome.com/7665.html

It will allow you to transfer Analog/AES Digital via MP3 VBR up to 192kbps over the Internet using RTP with very low latency (under 500ms) and great stability.

The Barix Streaming Client Update has a lot of functions specifically designed for STL / remote broadcast use. It doesn't come installed on the Exstreamer by default, but can be found here (bottom of page)
http://www.barix.com/index.php?option=com_docman&task=cat_view&gid=178&itemid=0

For US$690 plus shipping, you can't go wrong. Much better than relying on software solution! (very portable, you could run them off Gel Cells if you needed to) The Coaxial SPDIF Digital connection works fine with AES gear with a simple adaptor.
 
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