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T.I. Rihanna Live your life
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Major Chr/R add this week ( Top add this week ).htowler said:
Major Spin on JAMN-94.5 Boston ( Over 70 spins this week ).
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This song has the same melody of a dance song from a few years backmm I dont remember the name of the song,, but it was well known as the Nuna Nuna song,, Look it up on youtube... Anyway,,, I dont really care for this song as of now,, Its not Rhianna's best work by far, but it might grow on me,,, It might get some rhythmic attention, but I dont see it being a big CHR hit.... I could be wrong.
Mid West Clubber said:
*consults wikipedia for spelling* "Dragostea Din Tei" by O-Zone?
This song's a smash... and it's a pair of artists that works really nicely.
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Yeah your right,, thats the song it samples,,, but I cant spell it without looking it up.
I have no idea why I still don't really like this song (as one of my favorites) yet because it sounds exactly like something I would like. I don't mind hearing it, and I don't hate it, but I just can't rhythmically feel it, even though I know it's a good song. I should like it more than I do...
Well, I'm just glad a SENSIBLE hip hop song was put out to reach the top of the charts. I'm glad that TI is one of the very few that have come to their senses and decided "enough with the stupidity that has been taking place for the past two-three years. Lets bring back the REAL hip hop, but in a modernized way." Too bad he's going to jail because this gives Lil Wayne a chance to bounce back to number one.
Well... I guess it doesn't matter, as long as pop and electro-pop / dance continues to be the next new trend as hip hop continues to fall from the peak it reached quite some time ago. Not too long ago, but a while a go. I don't know if Eminem, 50 Cent, and Dr Dre can save it alone with TI. As you may have noticed, many of the other (true) hip hoppers have been pushed back to underground, or are no longer part of the mainstream. However, there is still hope for hip hop if people continue to move more into a sensible direction and start producing more quality lyrics. Look at Mims now with "move"! This is closer to what rhyming was all about to begin with, but combined with the dance movement style chorus of today's version of hits.
Well anyway, glad to see this T.I. and Rihanna song topping the charts for this long. Maybe it's a sign of things to come. Then Dr Dre and Eminem and 50 trying to step back in after some time? It may never be what it once was, but at least there's hope for the evolution of hip hop, even though I still doubt that hip hop will continue to dominate the charts. It will eventually be a thing of the past, just like Jazz, rock & Roll, Disco, The short lived multiple boy/girl band group pop phase, and reggaeton phase. It will still be around, but not dominating the charts. I have to admit I do like rhythmic radio now that they've recently gone more r&b/pop, and even dance. Classic Hip Hop stations? Well, the smart people will start jumping on that format soon. You'll one day be flipping through the dials and BAM! Classic Rock, Lite Rock, Oldies, Classic hip ho... what? Classic Hip Hop? Oh no - I'm getting old!!!
Rap will not die, but may live on through other styles of music. Rapping on pop, house, electro-pop, or only in portions of songs may be the next big move. This does not mean it's lost it's style, because remember, in the beginning, this was done on rock, breakbeats, and freestyle and even some house music. Then we evolved into different phases of story telling from just making rhymes to being hard and gangsta to love song rap to dance moves and talking about nothing, and we're once again in the next transitional phase. Back in the day, it started with electronic encoded voices. That disappeared for most of the 90's, but when you flash forward to the future and look back on today's hip hop/pop, you'll see how the voice encoding today will all sound alike, just like "planet rock, don't stop" or "freestyle's rocking in the house tonight" or "egyptian lover".
Certain songs by Rihanna, Missy Elliott, Chris Brown, Fergie, Flo-Rida, Katy Perry and Timbaland will eventually begin to sound like the CeCe Penniston, Freak Nasty, New Order, Robin S, Real McCoy, Sir Mix A Lot of this generation.. and before you know it, "Live your life" will be playing in your old school at noon mixshows, ....if the future of radio still decides to do this at noon.
Well, I certainly went on a little journey, although all that I've written is still only a brief summary of the whole story.... but I'll let you all get back to your "Live your life" by TI and Rihanna.
Well, I'm just glad a SENSIBLE hip hop song was put out to reach the top of the charts. I'm glad that TI is one of the very few that have come to their senses and decided "enough with the stupidity that has been taking place for the past two-three years. Lets bring back the REAL hip hop, but in a modernized way." Too bad he's going to jail because this gives Lil Wayne a chance to bounce back to number one.
Well... I guess it doesn't matter, as long as pop and electro-pop / dance continues to be the next new trend as hip hop continues to fall from the peak it reached quite some time ago. Not too long ago, but a while a go. I don't know if Eminem, 50 Cent, and Dr Dre can save it alone with TI. As you may have noticed, many of the other (true) hip hoppers have been pushed back to underground, or are no longer part of the mainstream. However, there is still hope for hip hop if people continue to move more into a sensible direction and start producing more quality lyrics. Look at Mims now with "move"! This is closer to what rhyming was all about to begin with, but combined with the dance movement style chorus of today's version of hits.
Well anyway, glad to see this T.I. and Rihanna song topping the charts for this long. Maybe it's a sign of things to come. Then Dr Dre and Eminem and 50 trying to step back in after some time? It may never be what it once was, but at least there's hope for the evolution of hip hop, even though I still doubt that hip hop will continue to dominate the charts. It will eventually be a thing of the past, just like Jazz, rock & Roll, Disco, The short lived multiple boy/girl band group pop phase, and reggaeton phase. It will still be around, but not dominating the charts. I have to admit I do like rhythmic radio now that they've recently gone more r&b/pop, and even dance. Classic Hip Hop stations? Well, the smart people will start jumping on that format soon. You'll one day be flipping through the dials and BAM! Classic Rock, Lite Rock, Oldies, Classic hip ho... what? Classic Hip Hop? Oh no - I'm getting old!!!
Rap will not die, but may live on through other styles of music. Rapping on pop, house, electro-pop, or only in portions of songs may be the next big move. This does not mean it's lost it's style, because remember, in the beginning, this was done on rock, breakbeats, and freestyle and even some house music. Then we evolved into different phases of story telling from just making rhymes to being hard and gangsta to love song rap to dance moves and talking about nothing, and we're once again in the next transitional phase. Back in the day, it started with electronic encoded voices. That disappeared for most of the 90's, but when you flash forward to the future and look back on today's hip hop/pop, you'll see how the voice encoding today will all sound alike, just like "planet rock, don't stop" or "freestyle's rocking in the house tonight" or "egyptian lover".
Certain songs by Rihanna, Missy Elliott, Chris Brown, Fergie, Flo-Rida, Katy Perry and Timbaland will eventually begin to sound like the CeCe Penniston, Freak Nasty, New Order, Robin S, Real McCoy, Sir Mix A Lot of this generation.. and before you know it, "Live your life" will be playing in your old school at noon mixshows, ....if the future of radio still decides to do this at noon.
Well, I certainly went on a little journey, although all that I've written is still only a brief summary of the whole story.... but I'll let you all get back to your "Live your life" by TI and Rihanna.
KDM 7000 said:
Wow, great post... deserving of its own separate topic in fact... 8)
Although I can't really argue with ANYTHING you said... I WILL add Jay-Z to your list of "old-school" rappers still kicking around who can/will "save" hip-hop... (THAT IS, if he even cares anymore)...
Also I would add Kanye West as well, but has he made the full-fledged cross-over to POP with his latest album? His previous release "Graduation" was FIRE that kept his street cred intact but also managed to score some MAJOR hits on the Pop chart... also his first "hit" back in 2003, "Through The Wire", was pure GENIUS.
It seems as though every generation, as it ages, claims that "their music" was better than the current offering of the present. As I am now well into my 30's I tell anyone who will listen that that the hip-hop I remember from 1994-2004 (Especially the late 90's-early 2000's) was/is FAR superior than what is being offered today. Of course, the people now in their late teens/early 20's would probably disagree with me.
Also, as I touched on in a post from awhile back, OVERSATURATION is killing the format as well. Back in the day on a certain track, you had a "main version" of a song, then an "official remix" that the label would put out, and an odd-off remix that say, x-mix would put out. Now you could have between 6-10 "official" remixes of any given track. Also there are more acts out there then ever before (many with basement studios), and most of these "unknowns" are not that good...
However I think what has REALLY killed the format over the past few years especially, is the slowed-down "dirrrty south" womp-womp sound... IMO 75% of those records all sound the same and none are that good... however again it may be just because I am getting too old.
As for those "electronic encoded voices" that you speak of, (which I believe is present on EVERY track on Kanye West's latest album), I could do without them... I think "that" Cher song has me jaded toward the effect...
The evolution of music, and how events may have lead up to "live your life" by T.I. and Rihanna
I think the (slow) dirty south sound was good and had begun to reach it's peak, ever since Timbaland and Missy kicked off a whole new "futuristic" style sound of beats in the late 90's. It all started with "one in a million" by Aaliyah (which was way more advanced than ginuwine's "pony"), then next thing you know, once people began to figure out how to create those complicated style beats, almost everyone was sounding "futuristic". Pop and hip hop also began to jump on this sound, and this is when pop, hip hop, and r&b began to fuse together and dance and booty bass were at it's very beginning stages of dying. People would rather use beats half the speed of dance music, and make it with that futuristic beat style arrangement, such as in "shut up" by Trick Daddy, "silly ho" by TLC, "I can't stand the rain" by Missy...."girls all pause" - Kurupt, "Jigga what" - Jay-Z ..... Ginuwine....Total....702....etc. Yes, there were some people who still managed to make dance/bass songs, but also threw in that futuristic style by making their songs half fast, half slow (Jordan Knight "give it to you", Sammie "I like it" Blaque "I do"..etc). It wasn't until we hit 1999/2000 that people in the south useing these beats also decided to start "shouting on the track" giving birth to a new sound in dirty south music. The multiple boy/girl band groups and the latin pop phase was still around, but beginning to fade away as they also started to use these beats.... This entire futuristic style lasted 1997 to about 2003.
Fast forward to 2003 past the Daniel Beddingfield, Craig David, IIO,...etc and you'll notice how ironically, not only did dance music "die" (with exception to "toxic" and the new Nina Sky and Pitbull that hit shortly before the big reggaeton phase), but the futuristic beats of the slower style everyone moved on to did as well, to make room for more simple boring less creative beats, as if we started evolving backwards once the new millennium passed. With exception to Twista holding on a bit to that futuristic style, the very simple Lil Jon "yeah" style beat was the next big thing (before reggaeton popped up) and this is where the new style dirty south (trance) sounds officially kicked off for the next dance music trend that no one saw coming back a few years down the road... but that's later on. Right now, we're at 2003, where hip hop slowly began to lose it's lyrical talent and the dance/club style dance movements were in it's early stages. The reggaeton probably distracted a lot of people from noticing the fact that the creative styled beats were pretty much gone and probably also help get people into more of a "dance routine mood". Just about no dance/electronic music was present in top 40/rhythmic radio at this point...... until Missy got creative and brave enough to change the game with "lose control". Little did anyone realize a new evolution in the sound of music was born...Next thing you know, people see the success and say "hey, this will work!" and you get LL Cool J "control myself", "my humps" Black Eyed Peas"...etc. The breakbeat/freestyle sound was back in and starting back up. Then Timbaland drops "sexy back" and once again, a new trend of house style beats pop up! Now we have songs with breakbeat and house style beats emerging as more and more people continue to slowly jump on it (Fergie- fergalicious, Britney- gimmie more, Rihanna- sos, Nelly furtado- maneater...Hilary Duff - with love..etc). Dance (electronic) music is slowly making it's come back. In the meantime, hip hop is becoming more and more meaningless as the lyrics begin to "fall apart". It all starts with the hip hop hits of 2004; "if you don't give a damn gone throw it up" and the "snap yo fingaz" and "it's going down"...etc. The story telling and gangsta/being hard style rap is transitioning from hardness to dance moves, and "lean with it rock with it" and the entire "snap" era is a sign of that. "Laffy Taffy" is the first real sign of the ridiculous Ay Bay Bay, Soulja Boy, and other crap that's just a few years down the road.
Flash forward to now, and you see how after 2007 and 2008 passed, a lot of the dumb stuff like Ay bay bay and soulja boy and pop lock and drop it pretty much come and go from rhythmic top 40 radio and more r&b and pop/dance have taken over as more people move towards rhythmic and top 40 rather than urban/hip hop. You look back, you'll see Timbaland and Missy changed the sound of music TWICE, and with all the right elements and ingredients to play out together at the perfect times, the possibility for dance/pop to knock hip hop off the top of the charts was achieved. Timbaland and Missy re-jump started the dance trend (and also picked up on some trancy sounds as well, similar to Lil Jon sounds), while silly rappers killed hip hop. Now as a result, we're back to how things pretty much were in the late 80's early 90's, but in a modernized way. The BPM's are all over the place once again mainstream radio. Only difference, less music, less on air personality, more strict rules. You listen to "womanizer" and other stuff similar to it and you'll realize you can thank the success of Rihanna's "sos" for that, despite the fact it took an unusually long time for songs with that style beat to follow, unlike how quick the Missy and Timbaland beats were imitated. NOW, add in that trancy sound Lil Jon loved to use on songs like Yeah or Goodies or freek-a-leek with the dance beats of today and you get a new, modernized style of dance.
I bet without the successful release of "lose control" by Missy becoming a hit and "get up" by Ciara, then Akon, Flo Rida, Fergie, Will-I-Am, Snoop Dogg (sensual seduction)...etc wouldn't have advanced as far as they did in breakdance/freestyle-bass styled music today. I bet if it weren't for "sexy back" and "the way I are" to be successful, we would've never reached the house styled beats of "gimmie more" by Britney, "let it rock" by kevin Rudolph, "Feedback" by Janet, ...damaged - danity kane....when i grow up - pussycat dolls... "closer" by Ne-yo, "forever" by Chris Brown,...etc. and David Guetta probably would've never charted with "love is gone" and there would be no successful Lady GaGa today. Pitbull would have probably also not have gone as far as he did, or end up stuck in the latin hip hop / pop category with some of his recent hits. I truly believe Timbaland and Missy were responsible for a lot more influences in music than people realize. The Neptunes and their early 2000's sound probably would've never kicked off the way it did if it weren't for that entire era of futuristic beats. "Kiss kiss" by Chris Brown, although late, probably would've never had the beat it has now... But anyway, now, thanks to the new sound of dance and people using more rhythmic sounds and electronic style backgrounds, today's music is heavily filled with melody's, as you can see in Rihanna and TI's recent songs. "Live your life" along with many other songs today are electro-pop influenced and heavily filled with a melodic background. You rarely hear people using just dry beats and bass lines anymore.
If it wasn't for all this to play out the way it did, "Live your life" may have never had the chance to be everything that it is now.
(Just wait until the day someone decides to use an acid electro sound with today's style of dance, and we'll have a modernized version of Jocelyn Enriquez, Planet Soul, Angelina styled hits. Jessica Mauboy has already touched on this with her up coming hit "burn". it's like a Jocelyn Enriquez meets Britney "womanizer" style.)
With all that has happened, it just leaves me to wonder what it would be like if Aaliyah were still around today? Would she be willing to advance to dance beats? Or would she be like Mariah and stick with the same typical slow to moderate bpm sound through her entire career? Would all these phases have even taken place the way they did if Aaliyah was here? And if so, is it possible that it would be T.I. and Aaliyah with Timbaland behind "live your life" instead? Would "the way I are" even exist? What about if Tupac and Biggie were around with Aaliyah? I'm sure all this would've affected the outcome of "live your life".
Imagine what type of beat "live your life" could have had if it were released 10 years ago, today!
I think the (slow) dirty south sound was good and had begun to reach it's peak, ever since Timbaland and Missy kicked off a whole new "futuristic" style sound of beats in the late 90's. It all started with "one in a million" by Aaliyah (which was way more advanced than ginuwine's "pony"), then next thing you know, once people began to figure out how to create those complicated style beats, almost everyone was sounding "futuristic". Pop and hip hop also began to jump on this sound, and this is when pop, hip hop, and r&b began to fuse together and dance and booty bass were at it's very beginning stages of dying. People would rather use beats half the speed of dance music, and make it with that futuristic beat style arrangement, such as in "shut up" by Trick Daddy, "silly ho" by TLC, "I can't stand the rain" by Missy...."girls all pause" - Kurupt, "Jigga what" - Jay-Z ..... Ginuwine....Total....702....etc. Yes, there were some people who still managed to make dance/bass songs, but also threw in that futuristic style by making their songs half fast, half slow (Jordan Knight "give it to you", Sammie "I like it" Blaque "I do"..etc). It wasn't until we hit 1999/2000 that people in the south useing these beats also decided to start "shouting on the track" giving birth to a new sound in dirty south music. The multiple boy/girl band groups and the latin pop phase was still around, but beginning to fade away as they also started to use these beats.... This entire futuristic style lasted 1997 to about 2003.
Fast forward to 2003 past the Daniel Beddingfield, Craig David, IIO,...etc and you'll notice how ironically, not only did dance music "die" (with exception to "toxic" and the new Nina Sky and Pitbull that hit shortly before the big reggaeton phase), but the futuristic beats of the slower style everyone moved on to did as well, to make room for more simple boring less creative beats, as if we started evolving backwards once the new millennium passed. With exception to Twista holding on a bit to that futuristic style, the very simple Lil Jon "yeah" style beat was the next big thing (before reggaeton popped up) and this is where the new style dirty south (trance) sounds officially kicked off for the next dance music trend that no one saw coming back a few years down the road... but that's later on. Right now, we're at 2003, where hip hop slowly began to lose it's lyrical talent and the dance/club style dance movements were in it's early stages. The reggaeton probably distracted a lot of people from noticing the fact that the creative styled beats were pretty much gone and probably also help get people into more of a "dance routine mood". Just about no dance/electronic music was present in top 40/rhythmic radio at this point...... until Missy got creative and brave enough to change the game with "lose control". Little did anyone realize a new evolution in the sound of music was born...Next thing you know, people see the success and say "hey, this will work!" and you get LL Cool J "control myself", "my humps" Black Eyed Peas"...etc. The breakbeat/freestyle sound was back in and starting back up. Then Timbaland drops "sexy back" and once again, a new trend of house style beats pop up! Now we have songs with breakbeat and house style beats emerging as more and more people continue to slowly jump on it (Fergie- fergalicious, Britney- gimmie more, Rihanna- sos, Nelly furtado- maneater...Hilary Duff - with love..etc). Dance (electronic) music is slowly making it's come back. In the meantime, hip hop is becoming more and more meaningless as the lyrics begin to "fall apart". It all starts with the hip hop hits of 2004; "if you don't give a damn gone throw it up" and the "snap yo fingaz" and "it's going down"...etc. The story telling and gangsta/being hard style rap is transitioning from hardness to dance moves, and "lean with it rock with it" and the entire "snap" era is a sign of that. "Laffy Taffy" is the first real sign of the ridiculous Ay Bay Bay, Soulja Boy, and other crap that's just a few years down the road.
Flash forward to now, and you see how after 2007 and 2008 passed, a lot of the dumb stuff like Ay bay bay and soulja boy and pop lock and drop it pretty much come and go from rhythmic top 40 radio and more r&b and pop/dance have taken over as more people move towards rhythmic and top 40 rather than urban/hip hop. You look back, you'll see Timbaland and Missy changed the sound of music TWICE, and with all the right elements and ingredients to play out together at the perfect times, the possibility for dance/pop to knock hip hop off the top of the charts was achieved. Timbaland and Missy re-jump started the dance trend (and also picked up on some trancy sounds as well, similar to Lil Jon sounds), while silly rappers killed hip hop. Now as a result, we're back to how things pretty much were in the late 80's early 90's, but in a modernized way. The BPM's are all over the place once again mainstream radio. Only difference, less music, less on air personality, more strict rules. You listen to "womanizer" and other stuff similar to it and you'll realize you can thank the success of Rihanna's "sos" for that, despite the fact it took an unusually long time for songs with that style beat to follow, unlike how quick the Missy and Timbaland beats were imitated. NOW, add in that trancy sound Lil Jon loved to use on songs like Yeah or Goodies or freek-a-leek with the dance beats of today and you get a new, modernized style of dance.
I bet without the successful release of "lose control" by Missy becoming a hit and "get up" by Ciara, then Akon, Flo Rida, Fergie, Will-I-Am, Snoop Dogg (sensual seduction)...etc wouldn't have advanced as far as they did in breakdance/freestyle-bass styled music today. I bet if it weren't for "sexy back" and "the way I are" to be successful, we would've never reached the house styled beats of "gimmie more" by Britney, "let it rock" by kevin Rudolph, "Feedback" by Janet, ...damaged - danity kane....when i grow up - pussycat dolls... "closer" by Ne-yo, "forever" by Chris Brown,...etc. and David Guetta probably would've never charted with "love is gone" and there would be no successful Lady GaGa today. Pitbull would have probably also not have gone as far as he did, or end up stuck in the latin hip hop / pop category with some of his recent hits. I truly believe Timbaland and Missy were responsible for a lot more influences in music than people realize. The Neptunes and their early 2000's sound probably would've never kicked off the way it did if it weren't for that entire era of futuristic beats. "Kiss kiss" by Chris Brown, although late, probably would've never had the beat it has now... But anyway, now, thanks to the new sound of dance and people using more rhythmic sounds and electronic style backgrounds, today's music is heavily filled with melody's, as you can see in Rihanna and TI's recent songs. "Live your life" along with many other songs today are electro-pop influenced and heavily filled with a melodic background. You rarely hear people using just dry beats and bass lines anymore.
If it wasn't for all this to play out the way it did, "Live your life" may have never had the chance to be everything that it is now.
(Just wait until the day someone decides to use an acid electro sound with today's style of dance, and we'll have a modernized version of Jocelyn Enriquez, Planet Soul, Angelina styled hits. Jessica Mauboy has already touched on this with her up coming hit "burn". it's like a Jocelyn Enriquez meets Britney "womanizer" style.)
With all that has happened, it just leaves me to wonder what it would be like if Aaliyah were still around today? Would she be willing to advance to dance beats? Or would she be like Mariah and stick with the same typical slow to moderate bpm sound through her entire career? Would all these phases have even taken place the way they did if Aaliyah was here? And if so, is it possible that it would be T.I. and Aaliyah with Timbaland behind "live your life" instead? Would "the way I are" even exist? What about if Tupac and Biggie were around with Aaliyah? I'm sure all this would've affected the outcome of "live your life".
Imagine what type of beat "live your life" could have had if it were released 10 years ago, today!
Wow, a lot to digest there!
I WILL say that Missy's "The Rain" DID have that slow Timbo beat, however (and AGAIN, I may be old and jaded), there was much thought, creativity and SKILL to that track... The beat... the style... 8) it was very much new at the time and thus, compelling...FRESH... MUCH MORE so than the Soulja Boy/Huey/Dem Franchize Boyz generic's that came out recently, however oddly enough, I DID dig "Pop Lock And Drop It" for some strange reason... it kind of grew on me, maybe because it was a "Summer Jam"?
EDIT: I will add one to your list of "What If's"... what about if Biggie were alive today? Would he have changed up HIS style, or would his stuff sound more like his last proper album and/or 2005's "Nasty Girl"? And futhermore, would he have saved Bad Boy from the eventual freefall it experienced in the early 2000's?
I WILL say that Missy's "The Rain" DID have that slow Timbo beat, however (and AGAIN, I may be old and jaded), there was much thought, creativity and SKILL to that track... The beat... the style... 8) it was very much new at the time and thus, compelling...FRESH... MUCH MORE so than the Soulja Boy/Huey/Dem Franchize Boyz generic's that came out recently, however oddly enough, I DID dig "Pop Lock And Drop It" for some strange reason... it kind of grew on me, maybe because it was a "Summer Jam"?
EDIT: I will add one to your list of "What If's"... what about if Biggie were alive today? Would he have changed up HIS style, or would his stuff sound more like his last proper album and/or 2005's "Nasty Girl"? And futhermore, would he have saved Bad Boy from the eventual freefall it experienced in the early 2000's?
Pop lock & drop it did have a good beat and was better than many of the other stuff around its time. I liked that one the most out of the other club songs. Party like a rockstar was better than all of it though.
If Biggie were still around, it would probably be similar to the results of what LL Cool J's and Snoop Dogg's work is getting today. The death I believe added an incredible amount of extra hype, especially when it came to going out on a high note. Today's generation would still worship today's new artists the way we did the past artists. I don't know how it would of affected the Eminem era if Biggie were still here, but I'm sure today it wouldn't knock Lil Wayne or TI off the charts. A lot of the 2007 2008 hits may have turned out differently, but I'm sure a Lil Jon and Biggie style collaboration would've taken place at some point between 2003 and 2007. Pitbull would've probably had the same success, however, I believe it would've affected 50 Cent is some way. They would've had similar beats, which in itself changes all the dynamics because this possibility could lead to more of a west coast dr dre beats trend that may have prevented or pushed back the Lil Jon sound. Whether or not it would have changed the reggaeton, who knows, but I'm sure one of his tracks wold've been given a reggaeton beat at it's time. It's also very likely that Biggie would have at least rapped on one boy band group project, most likely NSYNC and also do something with Justin. The entire Enrique Iglesias, Jennifer Lopez, Marc Anthony, Ricky Martin...etc era I think would have remained unaffected. As far as Flo Rida and Biggie being in the same game, that would be interesting to see. I'm sure he would've collaborated with Britney at least once at some point and also one day use a Neptunes or Lil Jon beat, and make an appearance on a Chris Brown track. I wonder if he would've teamed up with Outkast at all at any time? And if he didn't touch dance music or beats back when dance was big first time around, then who knows if he would've gone in that direction today. Maybe, at the most, he'd do something at 120 bpm and also consider at least one song with the voice encoder. These are all theories. His presence also could've possibly prevented these series of events from ever taking place now, making none of this possible, and "live your life" could have been pushed back a few decades, perhaps 2070 or 2080, and the 2090 generation would play it as the best of the 70's and 80's. But who knows how they'd do their charts and ratings? Some things may chart on Earth, but not on the next planet, and the years would all be screwed up.
By the way, Stevie B's next album will also be voice encoded and feature the new style of r&b/dance. I heard a few of his new tracks being produced live over the phone with him in December. He's now producing, and has some major things on the way in 2009....
If Biggie were still around, it would probably be similar to the results of what LL Cool J's and Snoop Dogg's work is getting today. The death I believe added an incredible amount of extra hype, especially when it came to going out on a high note. Today's generation would still worship today's new artists the way we did the past artists. I don't know how it would of affected the Eminem era if Biggie were still here, but I'm sure today it wouldn't knock Lil Wayne or TI off the charts. A lot of the 2007 2008 hits may have turned out differently, but I'm sure a Lil Jon and Biggie style collaboration would've taken place at some point between 2003 and 2007. Pitbull would've probably had the same success, however, I believe it would've affected 50 Cent is some way. They would've had similar beats, which in itself changes all the dynamics because this possibility could lead to more of a west coast dr dre beats trend that may have prevented or pushed back the Lil Jon sound. Whether or not it would have changed the reggaeton, who knows, but I'm sure one of his tracks wold've been given a reggaeton beat at it's time. It's also very likely that Biggie would have at least rapped on one boy band group project, most likely NSYNC and also do something with Justin. The entire Enrique Iglesias, Jennifer Lopez, Marc Anthony, Ricky Martin...etc era I think would have remained unaffected. As far as Flo Rida and Biggie being in the same game, that would be interesting to see. I'm sure he would've collaborated with Britney at least once at some point and also one day use a Neptunes or Lil Jon beat, and make an appearance on a Chris Brown track. I wonder if he would've teamed up with Outkast at all at any time? And if he didn't touch dance music or beats back when dance was big first time around, then who knows if he would've gone in that direction today. Maybe, at the most, he'd do something at 120 bpm and also consider at least one song with the voice encoder. These are all theories. His presence also could've possibly prevented these series of events from ever taking place now, making none of this possible, and "live your life" could have been pushed back a few decades, perhaps 2070 or 2080, and the 2090 generation would play it as the best of the 70's and 80's. But who knows how they'd do their charts and ratings? Some things may chart on Earth, but not on the next planet, and the years would all be screwed up.
By the way, Stevie B's next album will also be voice encoded and feature the new style of r&b/dance. I heard a few of his new tracks being produced live over the phone with him in December. He's now producing, and has some major things on the way in 2009....
I must also add that I bet Biggie and Akon would have done something near the beginning of Akon's career, but that's easy to predict under "normal" circumstances.
Lets say that Biggie was around after 1999, BUT got all caught up and fascinated with the whole rock meets rap thing while Limp Bizkit and all of them were hot, and this was enough to make him go off in that direction. Then he releases a rock/hip hop song that was so big it set a majority of the urban community down a rock trend, bringing back a alternative/rap Aerosmith style during the new millennium. That would change and disrupt everything! Possibly, instead of a sudden reggaeton era, there would be a rock en espanol era. Akon would probably be doing alternative, and "live your life" by TI would have a rock guitar melody! Imagine how this alone would change the entire music evolution. Hip hop the way it was in 2001 could've been just preparing to break 20 years from today! This would probably be the CHR Rhythmic Rock section!
Lets say that Biggie was around after 1999, BUT got all caught up and fascinated with the whole rock meets rap thing while Limp Bizkit and all of them were hot, and this was enough to make him go off in that direction. Then he releases a rock/hip hop song that was so big it set a majority of the urban community down a rock trend, bringing back a alternative/rap Aerosmith style during the new millennium. That would change and disrupt everything! Possibly, instead of a sudden reggaeton era, there would be a rock en espanol era. Akon would probably be doing alternative, and "live your life" by TI would have a rock guitar melody! Imagine how this alone would change the entire music evolution. Hip hop the way it was in 2001 could've been just preparing to break 20 years from today! This would probably be the CHR Rhythmic Rock section!
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