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talking over into and outtro

I realize that it is a standard practice at some stations, to talk over instrumental intro and outtros of songs. As a listener, it is annoying! Is it the job of radio to annoy? If you need a music bed, get a generic one...I wanna hear the whole song. Maybe you "pros" can explain to me the thinking behind doing this?! Ipods are popular as they have no such annoyances as do some stations also play the whole song.
 
Re: talking over intro and outro

I agree that it's annoying to hear people - with little or nothing substantive to say - talking at length anyway between practically every song. Unless you're WLNG, then personality, entertainment and information do not mean frequent time checks after 9:00 AM, lottery numbers from 3 states, partial ball scores and various other crutches between every song. The PDs and consultants hear that and the pendulum then swings the other way, resulting in generic talkovers all of 7 seconds every 10 minutes.

On the other hand, there are people out there doing a great job keeping things moving, injecting brief bits of content and rolling with the music flow. In most formats, 2-3 songs get played with jingles, sweepers, etc. between them and no DJ talk. That's fine, but is it radio's job to be an MP3 player? As an article on this website said nicely, earlier attempts by radio to emulate the latest audio trend didn't exactly work. Sure, know when to shut up, but let radio be radio.
 
It's been standard practice for a long time because it sounds tighter than an intro with dead air, even 1/2 second.

If you want to hear the song without the DJ, you like it enough to go buy the record.

The best stations would sometimes talk-up, sometimes run the song "free" with little or no overlap.
Early FM was the first place where "respect" for the recording kept the DJ "out of the way".
It sounded quite different from AM production where DJs were even heard in the middle of songs sometimes.

Back when cassette taping off-air was seen as a threat to record sales, (70's-80's) I believe extended intros were encouraged.

College radio is still generally done the way you might prefer. Whether you can find a college station serving your musical
interests is another problem.
 
The best sound is when the DJ "hits the post", talking right up to the point the lyrics start. You have to know the music well, and not rely on the intro countdown timer all the time, as it could be wrong.
 
If you're finding the DJ chatter over an intro or outro "annoying" then the jock, in my opinion, isn't doing his job!
It's supposed to be informative or entertaining to make the listener want to hear what the DJ is going to say next.
Considering it's only the Hartford market we're talking about here, some of the on air talent probably can't acheive that goal.
Not to knock all the jocks in Hartford, some really are pretty damn good! I listen to the jocks from LA and NY on Satellite Radio and find more of them to be entertaining!
If you don't want to hear any DJ chatter then may I suggest an IPOD, Zune, or those ole fashioned CD's?
 
Radioman40 said:
If you're finding the DJ chatter over an intro or outro "annoying" then the jock, in my opinion, isn't doing his job!
It's supposed to be informative or entertaining to make the listener want to hear what the DJ is going to say next.
Considering it's only the Hartford market we're talking about here, some of the on air talent probably can't acheive that goal.
Not to knock all the jocks in Hartford, some really are pretty damn good! I listen to the jocks from LA and NY on Satellite Radio and find more of them to be entertaining!
If you don't want to hear any DJ chatter then may I suggest an IPOD, Zune, or those ole fashioned CD's?


Yes I have to agree, I think song introduction are the most important thing to do in radio.If you hear a tune and like it, The song name or album info from the jock is noted down on an napkin,now you can go to buy a copy of it.jock morning shows
are funny and entertaining at times,or they can get boring as they talk about crap
that does not interest the listener.I miss the 70's AM station like WAVZ,WPOP,WCDQ,WDRC,WNBC in New York just to name a few.Yeah again I have to agree here,If you don't like the DJ's chatting up a storm, fire up the ole Ipod with 3000 songs in the shuffle mode.
 
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