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Tampa AM Station Buys Transmitter to Go All-Digital

How far does WMGG go at Night on Digital

Can it reach Orlando with a Good Signal?
I still don't think they are at full power yet. I have trouble through Pinellas County.

I have gone to Land O' Lakes to the North, Skyway to the SouthWest, Ruskin to the SouthEast and the signal is tight.

I seriously doubt it would even get to the Hillsborough/Polk County line right now.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
I am happy to report that the Sangean HDR-16 does in fact decode WMGG’s 1470! The stereo sounds like FM to me; at least on that radio, as I did some comparisons. It was interesting to tune a non-HD radio to 1470 at the same time and there was nothing; just sounded as though there was not a station on 1470; but there is still some slight hash on 1460 and 1480, though it doesn’t seem as bad as I recall the HASH when 620 WSUN/WDAE had IBOC. The problem with anyone going out of their way to test their HD radio is that 1470 still seems to be experimenting and they’re off the air almost as much as they are on the air and when the have a talk program on (English language) the HD is not on.
The AM analog signal was required to be turned off per FCC rules.
 
The AM analog signal was required to be turned off per FCC rules.
The analogue signal is off. The English language program drt refers to is probably WWNN, a 50kw from Pompano Beach.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
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We know that an AM station in hybrid mode can only run a single audio channel, but can it run extra subchannels in full digital?
Single channel as of now. Radio One petitioned for multi channel and was denied. More studies will be done before the FCC gives the green light.
 
The analogue signal is off. The English language program drt refers to is probably WWNN, a 50kw from Pompano Beach.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
Thanks, Jeff in Sa-ar-so-ta, I think you hit the nail on the head; when the English programming was on, I did suspect it was WWNN 1470 from Pompano Beach, as in the past 3 or 4 years, WWNN from Pompano Beach, would start to overrides the 1470 out of Dunedin (it’s tower location at the time). WWNN was a frequent guest anytime after 12 noon from about mid-November through March, and I guess WWNN continues to be a frequent guest! 😊 1470’S signal when their towers were in DunEdwin, was always weak during the day from just north of downtown SP southward and at night their signal was totally lost when they cut power.
 
Why are they not on full power?

Any guesses when that will come?

There's been no indication from Neal Ardman on Facebook when hes posted about it that they arent at full power.
 
With codec modifications It will eventually happen just not now.
I'm not so sure. HD on FM frequencies occupies 47kHz on each sideband (53kHz to 100kHz). That's a total of 94kHz. It's possible to squeeze one good quality stream and three much poorer quality streams in the 94kHz bandwidth. With only 20kHz bandwidth on medium wave frequencies, I don't see more than one stereo stream with reasonably good fidelity. At medium wave frequencies, lots of redundant data is required to help correct for impulse noise.
 
I'm not so sure. HD on FM frequencies occupies 47kHz on each sideband (53kHz to 100kHz). That's a total of 94kHz. It's possible to squeeze one good quality stream and three much poorer quality streams in the 94kHz bandwidth. With only 20kHz bandwidth on medium wave frequencies, I don't see more than one stereo stream with reasonably good fidelity. At medium wave frequencies, lots of redundant data is required to help correct for impulse noise.
As I said Radio One requested a waiver for a second HD channel during testing and was denied. So someone was working on something.
 
Do you think there is some format or programming that would be conducive to an "all digital" frequency?

I would imagine not a mass appeal format, but something with some niche appeal, where (potential) listeners would seek it out?

Also, what does this sound like to a person listening on an analog tuner?
 
There isn't enough bandwidth (20kHz) for more than one audio stream.
Actually WWFD has been testing running a second low bitrate stream with pretty good success. Of course the downside is; one louses the PAD data for artist/title/album cover art, and the second channel has to be mono and narrow response. Good for voice maybe. Personally, I wouldn't want to degrade my FM quality audio on my HD-1 channel by adding an HD-2, but it's good to know it's possible.
 
Do you think there is some format or programming that would be conducive to an "all digital" frequency?

I would imagine not a mass appeal format, but something with some niche appeal, where (potential) listeners would seek it out?

Classical or jazz are the obvious answers, but looks like WUSF programs jazz at night. Is there any classical music available on Tampa/St. Pete radio?
 
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Well, forgive me, if this shows up more than once, but yes there is a Classical music format in the Tampa/Sarasota area, WSMR is WUSF’s classical music station; due to spacing issues with Gainesville’s NPR WUFT at 89.1, WSMR’s antenna could not be in the Riverview antenna farm; antenna is in or near Nokomis, south of Sarasota; WUSF’s HD 89.2 HD broadcasts the WSMR programming as well as the translator (103.9 on or adjacent to the U.S.F. Campus) so a large part of Tampa and the southern part of the Tampa Bay Area are covered by a non HD radio; but the HD2 signal is pretty good, on my HD radios; the HD2 signal is better than the 89.1 in s.e. St. Petersburg.
 
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