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Tampa Bay "Experience"

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WWBA is running a voice liner intro for the "Tampa Bay Experience" over Jimi Hendrix' "Are You Experienced". The liner says "Strung Tighter than a LEFT handed stratocaster, here is Dan York". Just a piece of small trivia. Hendrix, although left handed, played a right handed guitar and turned it upside down.
 
Other than Larsen and Miller, there is no longer much to listen to on WWBA. They foolishly dumped Boortz, WGUL picked him up and promptly buried him on late nites, same as WWBA picked up Ingraham and buried her late at nite. And then O'Reilly quit. Savage is just not listen at work material. Next ratings I wouldnt be surprised to see them sink even lower. That wonderful big signal doesnt seem to be helping much. They need some compelling programming. York, I'm sure a nice guy, is not ready for prime time. Should be doing nites or weekends for a couple years to see him improve his craft.
 
naughtytalker said:
inanely riveting... that reminds me, I'm still not listening to 820 WWBA or Dan York.
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Name one other local weekday call-in host that takes calls from listeners.
Just one.

You can't because your station chases away talent and takes everything off the bird.
 
When Dan started he sucked. Much like Larsen did when he started talk at FLA. Dan has improved. His timing has improved and he is getting better with callers.

He is LOCAL, he is LIVE.

It is SO much bettler than listening to Beck tell me how the world is going to end any second.
 
I've tried to listen again to Beck. He was great when he was local here. In my opinion, he has turned into Howard Beal from the movie "Network". Only thing missing is Sybil the Soothsayer. Personally, I listen to the last 2 hours of Boortz on 1220 in Sarasota, but their signal is really poor being only 200 watts. And since O'Reilly quit, I've rediscovered Rush, but he isnt as good as he once was. he used to have the greatest bits, no not very many anymore. So I've been looking for a place to park the radio during the workday. Now, sometimes I listen to 1450 with their combo oldies and standards. Not too bad. I've tried FM but there is nothing there that I can tolerate for very long. Both CC and Cox have blown up the beautiful music stations that used to be the Dove. Guess I need to improve my spanish so I can listen to the Cuban and Mexican stations.
 
Other than Larsen and Miller, there is no longer much to listen to on WWBA. They foolishly dumped Boortz, WGUL picked him up and promptly buried him on late nites, same as WWBA picked up Ingraham and buried her late at nite.
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If Boortz and Ingraham were such hot tickets, why are they buried?

Syndication politics, not actual performance, is driving a lot of what you hear on talk radio these days. Talk Radio Network (Ingraham's syndicator) seems to be a specialist in the "block booking" strategy -- you have to take two or three crummy hosts to get the show you want.

I think Dan York is improving and I hope the economy (or other factors) doesn't move Genesis to pull the plug. Three tips:

1. Encourage more caller interaction. 820 has streaming video and you can clearly see his caller bank is empty much of the time.

2. Work on endorsement sponsorships. Local talk show hosts are profit centers. Beck is doing a commercial for a local Tampa bank proclaiming how they're locally controlled and didn't take bailout money. ??? We have a SYNDICATED host doing a commercial touting localism? Shouldn't York be the one getting that gig?

3. York needs to stop imitating Larsen in one respect: constantly referencing the Uhurus. It's not 1996 anymore. Plenty of other local things to talk about.
 
I've listened to Dan a few times and he does seem to be working at it, which is good. For my ears, he just sounds too young and sounds like he is trying too hard. He is one of those guys who in the pre-corporate radio days would have had a chance to develop some real chops on nights and weekends. In this day and age, he gets a prime slot in a top 25 market. To me, he is not up to it.
 
zoneguy said:
In this day and age, he gets a prime slot in a top 25 market. To me, he is not up to it.
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I think it's great Dan's there. He has improved from when he first started.

Remember, today, big corporate radio has no room for any up-and-coming young talent, on talk or music radio.

Try naming any overnight host that's still around anymore. Those nighttime slots are filled by syndicated shows, voice-tracked or automated.

The gutless bean counters in corp. radio don't want to program radio anymore. Just plug in the numbers and everything else will flow along well...
 
Don, to link your comment to another thread, "Local Radio". "Local" stations once were the "minor leagues". They were a place were a person could learn their craft. Also as you point out, night shifts are generally syndicated which eliminates another training ground.
 
I agree. But, Tampa is still a top 20 market. If local stations are not going to allow local shifts during off hours, then the likes of Dan York needs to be doing 9 to noon in market number 75 or higher. Us being happy he is getting his training wheels now, just because he is local, shows just how bad it has become on the local airwaves.
 
zoneguy said:
I agree. But, Tampa is still a top 20 market. If local stations are not going to allow local shifts during off hours, then the likes of Dan York needs to be doing 9 to noon in market number 75 or higher. Us being happy he is getting his training wheels now, just because he is local, shows just how bad it has become on the local airwaves.
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And every other market where the big guys own most of the stations.
 
A historical note about young and relatively inexperienced talk hosts -- Drew Hayes was 22 or 23 when he was hired at WPLP in the early 1980's to do PM drive. I'm as against a callow, uninformed host as the next person, but let's be careful about defining the difference between being unqualified and speaking from the point of view of Gen Y as opposed to the baby boomer worldview.
 
Nobody can be more sentimental about the "lost sense of community" when everything was more personal than the so-called "left". These are the people who believe in cotton and bluegrass. WMNF is the closest thing to good old time local radio for this group that you can get. They sponsor continuous concerts and have a solid volunteer program. They are live over nights and are as close as you can get to the feel of "old time radio". Too bad nobody can do this for the entire area, not just us "Liberals". It is not the politics per se that makes WMNF good, it is the committment to live radio that makes them outstanding.
 
MsMusicRadio said:
Nobody can be more sentimental about the "lost sense of community" when everything was more personal than the so-called "left". These are the people who believe in cotton and bluegrass. WMNF is the closest thing to good old time local radio for this group that you can get. They sponsor continuous concerts and have a solid volunteer program. They are live over nights and are as close as you can get to the feel of "old time radio". Too bad nobody can do this for the entire area, not just us "Liberals". It is not the politics per se that makes WMNF good, it is the committment to live radio that makes them outstanding.
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Why are you bringing politics into this? This has nothing to do with right vs. left.
Many of the Progressive Talk stations are all automated or take everything off satellite, as the big leftist talker in Miami.

I think broadcasters of all stripes during the past decade have gutted staffs and taken the easy way automating their programming.
 
My only point in bringing up politics is to demonstrate the demographic that generally listens to WMNF. I did say that there should be no reason that this level of localism should just be confined to Garrison Keillor Liberals.
 
MsMusicRadio said:
My only point in bringing up politics is to demonstrate the demographic that generally listens to WMNF. I did say that there should be no reason that this level of localism should just be confined to Garrison Keillor Liberals.
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It isn't confined to that small niche.

Local stations in small towns throughout the country in tiny, non-rated markets such as Great Bend, Kan., and Vidalia, Ga., have small, community-oriented 5,000-watt a.m. stations that deliver news and community information, particularly in the mornings.

You'll hear "community calendars," "hospital admissions," "lost pets," "school cafeteria menus," obituaries, etc., like reading a local newspaper.

Of course, this isn't what you'll hear in the Top 100 or so markets, but it is done in smaller communities and there's nothing left or right about it.
 
Regardless, Jimi didn't play a left handed strat,,,,he WAS a left hander playing a strat....so the intro, although clever, is not factually correct...
 
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