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Taylor Swift - done at country?

The answer: perhaps.

It's been six years, and if you put your ear to the ground you can hear and feel the oncoming backlash - especially among country programmers. Song after song that burns quickly, researches with high negatives, and an increasingly short shelf-life from single to single tells me that programmers' (and listeners) patience with this artist is wearing thin.

To be fair, she has done everything and more an artist can from the promotional and business side to get and maintain friends at radio, but I submit that had she not gone above and beyond in these areas her viability within the format would have been nil by 2010.

She's a huge pop star, no doubt. And her music reflects that, with more and more of each album aimed at pop airplay, regardless of the fact that she continues to swear that she will always be country. The proof is right there in every release.

Combine the above with the fact that her songs, country, pop or whatever, are aimed at a demographic that the standard country station doesn't consider a primary target, and the interest from single to single to get on - and continue to play - the latest Taylor Swift is waning.

Do we want to give her concert tickets away? Her cd's? Absolutely! But as time passes it gets to be more a case of jumping on what's hot in pop culture as opposed to what's hot in the country lifegroup. The country radio station I worked for in 2000 tried hard to secure and give away N'Sync tickets when they came to town. Taylor Swift is more like that now than if we were giving away Tim McGraw tickets.

Also, one gets the impression the listeners are getting tired of the one-trick pony that is "Guess who I'm writing about in THIS song?". That was interesting for the first album, but after that, not so much.

Finally, the format cannot keep relying on a young woman writing and singing songs aimed at the teen female crowd. When we first met Taylor she was 15 and singing songs that a 15 year old girl could relate to. Six years later, it seems like that will "never, ever, ever" change. While that song may be selling through the roof, I doubt very much the core demos we aim at as programmers are the ones buying it.

The weird thing about her is that consultants continue to rave about her, calling her "a treasure" (Jaye Albright) while at the same time watching single after single burn quickly and test itself off playlists in less and less time.

So - is Taylor Swift done at country? Perhaps. Or maybe the ship can be righted again.

Thoughts?
 
To me, her song "Begin Again" couldn't be more country. :) :) :)

God bless you and Taylor always!!! :) :) :)

Holly
 
Taylor's songs all sound the same. They may have different words, yet they are very noticeably written by her. It is not surprise people are not as crazy about them. As far as being country, I would say after the second album country was no longer a concern of hers.

Personally, I never liked her all that much. But I never disliked her until lately. Her and her record company's decision to limit access to the latest album digitally exclusively to itunes is ridiculous. I cannot think of a bigger anti-fan move. Forcing streaming services, Amazon, 7Digital, etc. to not sell it. It was purely a money grab. She got strong promotion and no doubt a better payout from iTunes. The outcome will be that she makes millions in sales and will make money again in the form of streams from sites like Spotify, Rdio, Etc. Milking fans twice. That's not right. Make no doubt she would have restricted access to internet radio stations too if she and her label had the legal means of doing so.
 
She's the biggest star in the world.

Who would walk away from the biggest star in the world?

A fool.

Who cares if she's country?

She's the biggest star in the world, and she thanks country radio every time she wins an award. She doesn't than Pandora. She doesn't thank pop radio. She thanks country radio.

Yes, pop radio plays a song ot two, and they burn quickly there too. But the place people can hear Taylor Swift is country radio. She fills stadiums. That's a lot of people. Keep that in mind. If programmers think radio is about them, they're in the wrong business.
 
Song after song that burns quickly, researches with high negatives, and an increasingly short shelf-life from single to single

This is the new norm in all formats. The days of a song hanging out on the charts for 3+ months are over (in most cases).

PPM says, more repetition, short playlists, very few (if any) recurrents.

Play the so called hits, burn em out, and move on to the next short attention span song.

That's just the way it is....
 
musiconradio.com said:
That's just the way it is....

The funny part is that the music industry sort of brought this upon themselves by making the music more disposable, turning TV talent contest winners into "artists," and pumping music through the system faster and faster. There is no shortage of new music or new artists, so why dwell on certain songs? Enjoy them for a few weeks, and move on. There'll be more to take their place.
 
.....and the Artists are more disposable in some cases. Ask Vanilla Ice, and Milli Vanilli. Yes you know it's true........ ;D

Now, what did I do with that Mungo Jerry record?

WAIT! The website LOL.

http://www.mungojerry.com/
 
musiconradio.com said:
.....and the Artists are more disposable in some cases.

In some cases. The one hit wonders are totally disposable. But once an artist has established himself or herself as a brand, as Taylor has done, radio would be smart to attach itself to her.
 
Taylor Swift has only done what Faith Hill and LeAnn Rimes before her have done: using country music as a stepping stone to larger success, albeit with more talent. Taylor at least writes her own songs. Faith "went Hollywood," while LeAnn just became a karaoke queen, singing too many songs that had already been hits for others.
 
^^^ LeAnn doesn't just cover other singers' songs. She has written a good deal of her own material as well. She wrote 12 of the songs on her album named Family, 10 of the songs on her album named Whatever We Wanna, and 3 songs on her album named This Woman. :) :) :)

God bless you and LeAnn always!!! :) :) :)

Holly

P.S. She wrote 3 songs on her Christmas album as well too. :) :) :)
 
Her "We're Never Ever Getting Back Together" song fits better on CHR/Pop and hot AC stations than on country, in my opinion.

About the "stepping stone" thing, yes, that's a possibility. I wouldn't be surprised if some artists do get the idea to try to get their songs played on top 40 and AC, yet stay just country enough to be played on country stations too. So then there will be something like six or eight local FM stations all playing songs from one artist.

Slightly off topic: Back when r&b music and rap music (without the dance/techno beat) was more mainstream, it wasn't unusual for the same song to be in the top 10 on Urban, CHR/Rhythmic, and CHR/Pop. So if country ever becomes the next big thing on CHR/Pop, I'm sure that the same song will be heard on Country, AC, Hot AC, and CHR/Pop.
 
Keep in mind that one of Taylor's musical heroes is Shania Twain, who proved you could get airplay on multiple formats and still get country airplay. What she's doing now is simply a page out of Shania's playbook. Shania took it from Dolly and Mandrell.
 
Shania is more of the Faith Hill mold than anyone else. Should note, however, that her songs were remixed for airplay on different formats, not the same mix on all formats.

Glad to learn that LeAnn is writing at least some of her own songs now. Still, I believe that she has "jumped the shark."

Don't recall Mandrell ever getting any "pop" airplay, this despite the fact that the height of her career was during the previous crossover wave back in the '70s and early '80s.
 
^^ LeAnn is also said to have written a good deal of what is to be on her next album named Spitfire as well. :) :) :)

God bless you and her always!!! :) :) :)

Holly (a day one fan of her)

P.S. She has co-written her new song that has just been sent to radio named "Borrowed". :) :) :)
 
Olivia Newton-John bailed out of country music in the late 1970's and early 1980's with the hit Physical.Olivia recorded some newer country tunes awhile back but they never got up on the country charts.Taylor is testing the field .She's young and she will continue with new country tunes.Since today's country sounds like rock and roll so if the artists drift off either way which it does not matter what they sing.
 
firepoint525 said:
Don't recall Mandrell ever getting any "pop" airplay, this despite the fact that the height of her career was during the previous crossover wave back in the '70s and early '80s.
I once heard "I Don't Want to Be Right" on a soft AC.
 
WPPCProductions said:
Olivia Newton-John bailed out of country music in the late 1970's and early 1980's with the hit Physical.Olivia recorded some newer country tunes awhile back but they never got up on the country charts.Taylor is testing the field .She's young and she will continue with new country tunes.Since today's country sounds like rock and roll so if the artists drift off either way which it does not matter what they sing.
Where does "A Little More Love" stand?

I was shocked to hear that one on a so-called "easy listening" station which still had instrumentals.

I haven't heard "Deeper Than The Night" in many years but it's more country than that one.
 
I shudder to think of the day when a true music artist makes a song or album solely for the idea that it will suit radio programmers and/or fit a format. Yes, there will always be artists willing to cash in and sell out and make a record just to make money.

True artists, and yes I'm lumping in Taylor Swift here, will always make a record that reflects their life, their sensibilities and what may be popular at the given moment in time. "Red" features decidely non-country hits like "I Knew You Were Trouble" that even has somewhat of a dubstep-lite sound to it, but I highly doubt it was Swift's attempt to become a huge player in the EDM scene. Her music is reflective of what she is experiencing in life (which judging by her music is break up after break up).

If artists never evolve, formats never evolve and we'd all essentially be listening to the exact same country music our grandparents listened to in the 1950s. It may be exagerration, but playing something a little outside of the box lends diversity and credibility to a music format and/or genre.

The same things were said about Faith Hill, and Shania Twain, and so on and so forth and I imagine they'll be said about the next artist would decides to stray a little outside of country. Regardless, though, Taylor Swift is a country artist for the time being. The format may not play every song and thats fine, too.

I think the greatest argument in her favor as a country artist is that few people (especially someone so young) can write and perform a song and give it true emotion. That alone makes it country. This is essentially the argument Blake Shelton made for Cassadee Pope on "the Voice"- no one can emote a song better than you, and thats country at its heart.
 
vchimpanzee said:
firepoint525 said:
Don't recall Mandrell ever getting any "pop" airplay, this despite the fact that the height of her career was during the previous crossover wave back in the '70s and early '80s.
I once heard "I Don't Want to Be Right" on a soft AC.

Correct...I remember hearing "(If Loving You is Wrong) I Don't Wanna Be Right" on my local Top 40 Station in the late 70s. According to Wikipedia, the song peaked at #31 on Billboard's Hot 100 and at the top of the country charts in 1978. I do believe that was Barbara's only crossover hit. Dolly was also mentioned earlier in this thread as "crossover" though I believe she only had two songs to achieve that among her vast number of strictly-country hits: "Here You Come Again", and "9 to 5". Also, "Islands in the Stream" crossed-over, but that was a duet with Kenny Rogers.

Eric
 
werecat said:
Her "We're Never Ever Getting Back Together" song fits better on CHR/Pop and hot AC stations than on country, in my opinion.
They actually played it on the People's Choice Awards to represent country music as she went up on stage. Nothing about what I heard was country.
 
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