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Telemundo Displaced By Telefutura As 2nd Place Spanish Network

DToTheJ said:
Details and press release here:
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/03/0...roadcast-primetime-with-total-viewers-2/43610

A commenter on the above link has it spot-on: "Even in Spanish channels, NBC loses!"

Wow, this really says a lot about what a poor job NBC Universal has done in promoting Telemundo! For those who don't know, Telefutura is a second broadcast network brought to you by Univision. It compliments UNI by showing lots of kids shows during the day, younger-skewing soaps (telenovelas) on weekday evenings and plenty of Hollywood movies dubbed into Spanish. They do have a national newscast, but most of their local affiliates are either second-tier full powered signals or are low powered. Very few have local news. Their cable/broadcast penetration is still behind that of Telemundo, though Univision has worked hard to narrow that gap.

That it is beating Telemundo already should be VERY disturbing to the eggheads at NBC-U. Telemundo supposedly competes head-to-head with Univision and they've spent plenty of money. Yet they just cant get any traction, beyond Al Rojo Vivo (thanks to Maria Celeste). Even her sell-by date may be near. This network getting clobbered so badly that soon it may have to worry about the likes of Azteca America!!
 
MarcB said:
Part of Telemundo's problem is they have infomercials as part of their line-up. Univision does not. And I don't think Telefutura does either. Here the Hartford Market Telefutura is WUTH-CA Channel 47 which is simulcast on WUVN Channel 18.3. Its on COMCAST on Channel 296.

Marc, I believe that's a local affiliate issue. Telemundo in a larger market like Chicago or LA doesn't program any more infomercials than you'd see on Univision, Telefutura or even a network O&O during the night. They have a full programming schedule unlike, say, Pax.
 
In Atlanta, both Univision and Telefutura share Univision O&O WUVG's digital signal. In most places, they are on seperate stations.

As for the link...It is a press release. It needs independent verification from another source, not a press release regurgutating website.
 
MarcB said:
Part of Telemundo's problem is they have infomercials as part of their line-up. Univision does not. And I don't think Telefutura does either. Here the Hartford Market Telefutura is WUTH-CA Channel 47 which is simulcast on WUVN Channel 18.3. Its on COMCAST on Channel 296.

That's no lie about infomercials. Telemundo owned WSNS in Chicago shows infomercials around 12:30 - 1am. Some infomercials have been in English instead of Spanish. Univision & Telefutura in Chicago don't have any infomercials. Both stations are adding HD programming that's becoming noticeable (at least in Chicago) & more so on Telefutura than Univision. Both Telefutura & Univision are on separate broadcast channels & not on subchannels (WGBO being Univision & WXFT being Telefutura). Not only that, Univision owns both stations in Chicago. I don't know how much the stations are cross promoted between O&O stations. That may have a factor in why Univision & Telefutura are clobbering Telemundo since NBC can't easily cross promote Telemundo & NBC due to NBC being English & Telemundo being Spanish.
 
In Chicago, I stand corrected in that the Telemundo affiliate shows infomercials while the Univision and Telefutura outlets do not. However, that's not until the hours of 12:30 am to roughly 5:00 am and they actually toss a 2 hour movie in there for good measure. So, it's hardly abusive - and it's unlikely to have any impact with ratings. Heck, our Fox and CBS affiliates probably air more hours of infomercials here during the course of a week as WSNS (TEL) does! What WSNS doesn't do is air infomercials during the day or during prime time. So that's clearly not the issue here.

The issue at hand (IMO) is a combination of Univision snagging the best shows and Univision being so adept at marketing the Latino audience. They also do a lot of cross-promotion amongst their various TV and radio holdings. Like them or hate 'em, Univision does a heck of a job serving their target audience - using all of their platforms. That's something Telemundo can't match at this point. At one point a few years ago, they posing more of a challenge to Univision; now, under NBC Universal, they are a joke.

Oddly, here in Chi-town, the Telemundo affiliate has a much better local news product than the Univision affiliate does. I have watched them both a number of times, and it's not even close. WSNS has the best Spanish language local newscast in this market. But, the lead-in and lead-out shows are so much weaker for Telemundo that those newscasts just don't retain the viewership. The local newscast on Univision is followed by a national newscast (both at 5:30 PM and 10:30 PM CT) that is better and more well received than Telemundo's early evening national newscast. It's not bad, but it lacks the "star" power of Univision's offerings. Including that socialist (self proclaimed) Jorge Ramos.
 
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