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Telemundo to 39 Sunday (7/23)

Flipping by ch 48 last night, I saw that Telemundo was already running spots announcing the switch. There's a full version, which kinda has a 3TV feel to it, and a quick spot, lasting 5-10 seconds. I don't understand much Spanish (una palabra aquí; una palabra allí), but I did hear the word mueve (move) a lot in the full-length spot.

Nothing about the move on Daystar, as of last night.
 
dhett said:
Flipping by ch 48 last night, I saw that Telemundo was already running spots announcing the switch. There's a full version, which kinda has a 3TV feel to it, and a quick spot, lasting 5-10 seconds. I don't understand much Spanish (una palabra aquí; una palabra allí), but I did hear the word mueve (move) a lot in the full-length spot.

Nothing about the move on Daystar, as of last night.
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As of Saturday night, Daystar is running a continuous scroll that says "Daystar is moving to channel 48 and Cox cable ch 110 tonight at midnight." This means Daystar will no longer have analog cable carriage in Phoenix (unless there is enough viewer outrage), and an opening on Cox's Channel 56 (which they most likely will replace with another Spanish-lanuage channel - KEJR-LP or mun2, perhaps?).
 
I know a few people that might not be happy - they have cable, but not digital cable, and they do watch Daystar. This week is my church organization's biennial meetings, and Daystar is televising part of them.

I'm surprised that they're putting Daystar on digital-only. It's kind of a slap in the face, but I guess people will have to speak up - squeaky wheel and all. I don't have cable at all, so it's not an issue for me.
 
And it's done

Just in case anyone cares...

I brought a 2nd TV into the living room, curious to see how this would go down - one tuned to ch 39 and the other to ch 48.

At midnight, Daystar launched into its regular programming on ch 39 and Telemundo programming was still on ch 48; nothing happened. About 30 seconds later, ch 39 suddenly cut over to Telemundo and both stations had Telemundo programming for about half a minute. Then ch 48 went off the air, while ch 39 launched into special programming explaining the new, improved reach of Telemundo. About a minute later, ch 48 came back on with Daystar programming with no acknowledgement about what happened. Ch 39, OTOH, ran a 5-minute commercial about themselves, including the always sheepish-looking Mayor of Phoenix, Phil Gordon, welcoming Telemundo ch 39 in incredibly bad Spanish.
 
Cox Channel 56 just has a slide that says (in English and Spanish) that Telemundo has moved to Channel 20. And the channel-info bar that shows up whenever you change channels on a digital box is accurate on both 20 and 110, and is labeled "Sched" on 56.
 
My understanding is that Cox is now carrying the Daystar national feed on Channel 110 - not what's on over-the-air channel 48. Can anyone confirm/deny this?

The Channel 110 dial position makes sense given that it's next to INSP (112), EWTN (113), and BYUTV (114).

It's kinda interesting (I guess) to have KTAZ on Cox Channel 20 and KPAZ on Channel 21.
 
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dhett said:
Just in case anyone cares...

I brought a 2nd TV into the living room, curious to see how this would go down - one tuned to ch 39 and the other to ch 48.

At midnight, Daystar launched into its regular programming on ch 39 and Telemundo programming was still on ch 48; nothing happened. About 30 seconds later, ch 39 suddenly cut over to Telemundo and both stations had Telemundo programming for about half a minute. Then ch 48 went off the air, while ch 39 launched into special programming explaining the new, improved reach of Telemundo. About a minute later, ch 48 came back on with Daystar programming with no acknowledgement about what happened. Ch 39, OTOH, ran a 5-minute commercial about themselves, including the always sheepish-looking Mayor of Phoenix, Phil Gordon, welcoming Telemundo ch 39 in incredibly bad Spanish.
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I did record the "flip" on 39, and the new equipment installed really did improve the signal of Channel 39 compared to the five years that Daystar operated it as full-power (the chief engineer was interviewed during the promo piece welcoming the new Telemundo Arizona, and he was boasting his new Dielectric antenna and Thales transmitter). The over-the-air sound is now stereo as well.

It makes me wonder if Daystar was operating 39 at full-power all along, or did they just have inferior transmission equipment?
 
Probably both. That was the big part of the delay; when Telemundo got in there after the transaction was consummated, they found that the facilities were not what was authorized by the station's license. They were granted special temporary authorization (STA) last month to broadcast on the existing facilities while they upgraded.

I wonder if they missed that while doing due diligence before the purchase, or if they knew about it going in, but figured that they benefit of having the full-service license outweighed whatever issues they would find?

In either case, it really doesn't speak well for Daystar (this coming from one who supports Daystar in principle - but not financially). Maybe they should take their $25 million that they won't be using to buy KOCE in LA and put it into upgrading their existing facilities.
 
tenchances said:
My understanding is that Cox is now carrying the Daystar national feed on Channel 110 - not what's on over-the-air channel 48. Can anyone confirm/deny this?
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I can't, but I'll bet you're right. Dish Network dropped all local feeds in favor of the national feed, but IIRC, that was done with Daystar's permission.

The one time I know that KDTP carries local programming and not national is on Saturday mornings, when they broadcast Spanish-language services from local churches. One will be able to confirm local/national feed on Cox at that time.
 
I can't, but I'll bet you're right. Dish Network dropped all local feeds in favor of the national feed, but IIRC, that was done with Daystar's permission.

The one time I know that KDTP carries local programming and not national is on Saturday mornings, when they broadcast Spanish-language services from local churches. One will be able to confirm local/national feed on Cox at that time.
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Does/Did KDTP have some sort of legal ID? That might be another way to confirm it.

And, was/is KDTP carried by any other cable systems in the DMA?
 
tenchances said:
Does/Did KDTP have some sort of legal ID? That might be another way to confirm it.
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KDTP's ID was "KDTP 39 Phoenix" (and for a month, "KTAZ-TV 39 Phoenix") at the top of every hour, when Daystar would ID. I haven't checked 48 yet, but they're new ID should read "KDTP 11 Holbrook KDTP-CA 48 Phoenix"

tenchances said:
And, was/is KDTP carried by any other cable systems in the DMA?
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It was carried by all cable systems (Cox, Qwest, CableAmerica, etc.) in the Phoenix Metro as a "must-carry" station on 39. I'm not sure if any of the other cable systems besides Cox carries the "new" KDTP-TV/CA. DirecTV and DISH never carried 39 (or KPAZ 21, for that matter) because they carry the national feeds of Daystar and TBN, respectively.

As of right now, DirecTV has yet to add KTAZ to the Phoenix local channel lineup, as they do with other full-power Telemundo affiliates across the country. They did carry KPHZ 11 (via KPHZ-LP 58) for a while, so they do have the allocation for KTAZ ready to go. I can't say anything about DISH carrying KTAZ at this time.
 
dhett said:
Probably both. That was the big part of the delay; when Telemundo got in there after the transaction was consummated, they found that the facilities were not what was authorized by the station's license. They were granted special temporary authorization (STA) last month to broadcast on the existing facilities while they upgraded.

I wonder if they missed that while doing due diligence before the purchase, or if they knew about it going in, but figured that they benefit of having the full-service license outweighed whatever issues they would find?

In either case, it really doesn't speak well for Daystar (this coming from one who supports Daystar in principle - but not financially). Maybe they should take their $25 million that they won't be using to buy KOCE in LA and put it into upgrading their existing facilities.
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I thought when the FCC issued a station with a license, the station had to operate within the parameters of the license, and if not, they needed an STA. But, it never seemed like KDTP was running 1,070,000 watts on Channel 39, but more like the 348,300 watts with the antenna installed at a reduced height on the tower per the KTAZ STA. If so, they might have only just cared about the "must carry" cable status the full-power allocation gave them, but if they were running normal facilities per their license, then I hope that Daystar has found a new contract engineer for their next projects since building KDTP on 39 over five years ago.
 
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