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ixnay said:MarcB said:
"Ehhh, ?que' es arriba, Doc?"
ixnay
LOL, nice try! More likely "que tal, doc?"
The scary thing is that some characters in shows that we know and love have totally different names in Spanish. One I can think of off the top of my head is the Muppets' Grover who is known as Avellardo en espanol. Another is Cousin It from the Adams Family - known as Uncle Thing (tio cosa)! Thing (in English) had a different name. There are many, many others.
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mrtexmex2007
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Like the movie Childs Play is named Chucky el muñeco diabolico, translated it means CHUCK THE DIABOLIC DOLL
Thanks for correcting me, BRNout. Shows I'm not fluent in Spanish (or Ukrainian, or Celtic [my ancestral tongues]), although I tried my hand at it in HS and college courses and watch (well tape, then watch) Televisa telenovelas on Univision.
David Michaelis's Schulz and Peanuts stated that Sparky's strip was called Carlitos (as in Charlie Brown) in the Spanish speaking world. And one of my Spanish professors told us that Woody Woodpecker is known in Spanish as "El Pajaro Loco" (The Crazy Bird) and that the Jaws flicks became Tiburon (Shark) in espanol.
ixnay
David Michaelis's Schulz and Peanuts stated that Sparky's strip was called Carlitos (as in Charlie Brown) in the Spanish speaking world. And one of my Spanish professors told us that Woody Woodpecker is known in Spanish as "El Pajaro Loco" (The Crazy Bird) and that the Jaws flicks became Tiburon (Shark) in espanol.
ixnay
ixnay said:Thanks for correcting me, BRNout. Shows I'm not fluent in Spanish (or Ukrainian, or Celtic [my ancestral tongues]), although I tried my hand at it in HS and college courses and watch (well tape, then watch) Televisa telenovelas on Univision.
David Michaelis's Schulz and Peanuts stated that Sparky's strip was called Carlitos (as in Charlie Brown) in the Spanish speaking world. And one of my Spanish professors told us that Woody Woodpecker is known in Spanish as "El Pajaro Loco" (The Crazy Bird) and that the Jaws flicks became Tiburon (Shark) in espanol.
ixnay
I was just having a little fun with you - hope I didn't come off as being a 'wise guy'!
Actually it was an excellent example of how literal translations often don't work. As were the additional examples of shows that you listed. To this day, most Hollywood movies released in Latin America have titles in Spanish that are not direct translations of their English titles.
There is another issue that has come up between Univision and Televisa and that is concerning the rights to show certain teams of the Mexican Football League (soccer to the rest of you). Last week was the first time in very long that no matches were shown on any of the Univision networks. Univision has always been the network that shows the matches of the more popular teams of the MFL. Only recently has there been an agreement to start showing MFL on Univision again, starting on Friday. Read: http://www.multichannel.com/article/445149-Shutout_Univision_Suffers_Soccer_Less_Weekend.php
Televisa licenses the rights to air matches of several teams outside Mexico and is the owner of one of the biggest ones, America CF.
To feed on the conspiracy theories, Telemundo has been steadily increasing the number of Mexican league matches and now airs at least four/five matches every weekend. Azteca America also has rights for certain teams and, from time to time, sublicense them to either ESPN Deportes, Fox Sports Espanol or even one of the Univision networks.
So it looks like the competitors to Univision have learned how to take advantage of the spat between Univision and Televisa, which they hope will help them end the dominance of the former in Spanish-language U.S. television.
Televisa licenses the rights to air matches of several teams outside Mexico and is the owner of one of the biggest ones, America CF.
To feed on the conspiracy theories, Telemundo has been steadily increasing the number of Mexican league matches and now airs at least four/five matches every weekend. Azteca America also has rights for certain teams and, from time to time, sublicense them to either ESPN Deportes, Fox Sports Espanol or even one of the Univision networks.
So it looks like the competitors to Univision have learned how to take advantage of the spat between Univision and Televisa, which they hope will help them end the dominance of the former in Spanish-language U.S. television.
mrtexmex2007 said:
One of the Chucky movies was on Telefutura last night. We get it on Channel 296. Comcast calls it WUTH, but since WUTH-LP is simulcast on WUVN Channel 18.3 the top of the hour ID is "Telefutura Hartford-New Haven" in big letters and in smaller letters "Hartford-New Haven WUVN-DT 18.3"
MarcB said:
RCN (Radio Cadena Nacional) is - if I'm not mistaken - Columbia's largest and oldest national TV and radio network. They produce tons of telenovelas and other shows. In fact, outside of Mexico and the US, they provide more Spanish-language programming content than Televisa does.
Aside from excellent production quality, another reason for this is the accent neutral way in which Columbians speak. Mexicans have a strong accent (which varies by region) that many in Latin America find distracting and/or annoying. The same is true of programming from Spain - ask most Latinos and they HATE listening to that accent. This is an often overlooked issue that matters a great deal once you get into other parts of Latin America.....
BRNout said:
If Wikipedia is to be believed, Portland has a low-powered Telemundo affiliate:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KKEI-CA
Don't know if Comcast gets Telemundo from this station or the national feed.
azumanga said:
WOW - amazing! Portland is the #22 market and is fully 10% Hispanic; and, needless to say, that segment of the market's population is the fastest growing group. They can't even muster a full-power affiliate in a big west coast market like Portland? Same is true in Philly, but the difference is that Philly is only about 4% Latino and the Spanish language audience isn't growing that quickly. On the other hand, both markets DO have full-powered Univision affiliates, don't they?
This is one of the reasons why Telemundo gets their rear ends handed to them on a daily basis by Univision.
Hartford, Connecticut too. Telemundo is relegated to WRDM-CA Channel 50. WRDM-LP has been the Telemundo affiliate in Hartford since the early 90s when they were known as W13BF. After moving to channel 50 they got a huge power boost to 50KW from a tower on the WCCC-FM tower on AVON Mountain. On Channel 13 they were extremely low-power, but they did have cable coverage. WRDM-CA has a CP to move to Digital Channel 19 at 15KW.
In Hartford Univsion was relegated to W47AD. It was a relay of WXTV/41 NYC (Paterson, NJ). It briefly got cable carriage on Channel 17 on TCI Cablevision of Central Connecticut before being replaced by the national Univision feed. For 6 months W47AD became WXTV-LP before switching back to W47AD. The WXTV-LP call sign went to Channel 28 in Philly.
In December 2000 Entravision Communications bought WHCT/18 from the Bankruptcy Attorney that was operating the station since 1997, when it returned from the air after being dark since 1991. In March 2001 Channel 18 (now WUVN) became Hartford's first Full-Power Spanish TV Station. (WUVN had 3.14 milion Watts). WUVN was added to cable on Channel 18 and also temporarily replaced the Univision National Feed on Channel 17 as well. Entravision soon bought WUNI/27 in Worcester, Mass (Boston market). Channel 18 is primarily operated out of WUNI. Entravision then bought W47AD from Univision and changed it's calls to WUTH-CA and flipped it to TeleFutura. Today WUTH-CA has cable coverage on Channel 296 thanks to being on WUVN-DT18.3
As for radio in Hartford - Hartford had a Spanish language FM radio station WLVH 93.7 FM "SUPER 94" until 1989. The station was broke and put up for sale. It became NOAA Weather Radio to keep the station alive before being sold in 1991 to American Radio Systems (later Infinity Broadcasting now CBS Radio) and became MIX 93.7 WZMX. (Today it his Hip-Hop formatted HOT 93.7).
Flash forward to 2007 CBS launched an all Regaeeton Format on 93.7 HD2. (They call the station Caliente 93.7 HD2. Caliente being Spanish for Hot). Flash forward to November 2009 the independent Red Wolf Broadcasting the owner of Modern Rock Radio 104.1 WMRQ launched a Tropical format on 104.1 HD2. They also bought 97.5 a 60 watt translator and began simulcasting 104.1 HD2 on 97.5 the station is going by the name of LaBomba 97.5 FM. It may only be 60 watts, but after 20 years Hartford finally has an FM Spanish Station again. http://www.labomba975.com/ They're having much success. 2 or 3 DJs who had been with La Mega 910 are involved with this new station. http://www.facebook.com/#/pages/Gla...OMBA-975-FM-PURA-DINAMITA/202289685395?ref=nf
In Hartford Univsion was relegated to W47AD. It was a relay of WXTV/41 NYC (Paterson, NJ). It briefly got cable carriage on Channel 17 on TCI Cablevision of Central Connecticut before being replaced by the national Univision feed. For 6 months W47AD became WXTV-LP before switching back to W47AD. The WXTV-LP call sign went to Channel 28 in Philly.
In December 2000 Entravision Communications bought WHCT/18 from the Bankruptcy Attorney that was operating the station since 1997, when it returned from the air after being dark since 1991. In March 2001 Channel 18 (now WUVN) became Hartford's first Full-Power Spanish TV Station. (WUVN had 3.14 milion Watts). WUVN was added to cable on Channel 18 and also temporarily replaced the Univision National Feed on Channel 17 as well. Entravision soon bought WUNI/27 in Worcester, Mass (Boston market). Channel 18 is primarily operated out of WUNI. Entravision then bought W47AD from Univision and changed it's calls to WUTH-CA and flipped it to TeleFutura. Today WUTH-CA has cable coverage on Channel 296 thanks to being on WUVN-DT18.3
As for radio in Hartford - Hartford had a Spanish language FM radio station WLVH 93.7 FM "SUPER 94" until 1989. The station was broke and put up for sale. It became NOAA Weather Radio to keep the station alive before being sold in 1991 to American Radio Systems (later Infinity Broadcasting now CBS Radio) and became MIX 93.7 WZMX. (Today it his Hip-Hop formatted HOT 93.7).
Flash forward to 2007 CBS launched an all Regaeeton Format on 93.7 HD2. (They call the station Caliente 93.7 HD2. Caliente being Spanish for Hot). Flash forward to November 2009 the independent Red Wolf Broadcasting the owner of Modern Rock Radio 104.1 WMRQ launched a Tropical format on 104.1 HD2. They also bought 97.5 a 60 watt translator and began simulcasting 104.1 HD2 on 97.5 the station is going by the name of LaBomba 97.5 FM. It may only be 60 watts, but after 20 years Hartford finally has an FM Spanish Station again. http://www.labomba975.com/ They're having much success. 2 or 3 DJs who had been with La Mega 910 are involved with this new station. http://www.facebook.com/#/pages/Gla...OMBA-975-FM-PURA-DINAMITA/202289685395?ref=nf
I may be way off base on this but it seems to be that Telemundo could have addressed the Hartford issue by buying WSAH and moving the signal further away from NYC, while still covering Bridgeport (closer to New Haven?). The OTA signal would help them reach households in eastern LI, sort of like the set-up Telefutura has with Channels 67 and 68. Something must have prevented them from buying that station or they never thought about that opportunity.
azumanga said:
Detroit's Hispanic percentage is quite small - about 3%. Worse yet, it's not growing very quickly either. A lot of the "rust belt" markets, where the economy has struggled long-term (and where there's limited agriculture) have not seen the influx of Latino immigrants that other areas have over the past 20 years or so. Markets like Buffalo, Cleveland, Detroit and Pittsburgh haven't attracted many newcomers and their Hispanic populations remain minimal. Baltimore, though not a rust-belt city, is another example.
Philly is a little different in that there was an influx of Puerto Ricans to the area in the 60's and 70's and, more recently, there is a mini influx of Mexicans to the area. However, the Latino population remains pretty small. Univision has the resources to muster an affiliate with local news in a market like Philly while Telemundo is on an LP channel.
But I was shocked about Portland as it's nothing like any of the aforementioned cities, demographically. The Hispanic audience is clearly large enough to support a full-signal Telemundo affiliate, along with Univision, Telefutura, and a low powered Azteca signal.
BRNout said:
In Philly Univision moved from WXTV-LP 28 to Full-Powered Channel 65 licensed to Vineland, New Jersey back when Univision bought out The USA Broadcasting Company (formerly Silver King TV). Since Philly lacked a Full-power Univision affiliate they put Univision on Channel 65 rather than Telefutura. Telefutura is now on the WFPA-CA 28. Telemundo in Philly is WWSI Channel 62, which is licensed to Atlantic City, NJ. It's now Channel 49.
As for radio The Spanish get their mainstream music from Davidson's MEGA 1310 WEMG licensed to Camden, NJ. There's also Clear Channel's RUMBA 1480 WUBA, but they have the crappiest 5000 watt signal on the face of the Earth. Some of the programming on Multi-Cultural's WTTM 1680 is Regional Mexican. Clear Channel failed with RUMBA on 104.5 FM partially due to the fact that the didn't promote the station.
And on the radio in Hartford there are 3 AM Tropical formatted stations. MEGA 910 WLAT (owned by GOIS Broadcasting) which is 5KW day and night and covers the entire market. MEGA 910 got it start in 2001 after moving from the weaker 1230 signal. La Gigante 840 WRYM which is independently owned by The 840 Broadcasting Company. (They've been Spanish 42 years). They 1KW day and 125 watts at night. The 3rd is WPRX 1120 AM. It's called La Puertoricanmisima. They've been on the air since 93 and are 1KW day and 500 watts at night. Owned by Nievasquez Productions. There's also Spanish AC AMOR 1230 WNEZ owned by Gois and Spanish Religion on 990 AM (2.5 KW days/80 watts night) and non-commercially on an FM and a bunch of translators.
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