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Tell Us How You Really Feel, Juan Williams

DToTheJ said:
On the heels of the ouster of National Public Radio CEO Vivian Schiller, who oversaw the hasty termination of Juan Williams following his infamous "I get nervous when Muslims board a plane" comments on Fox News, Williams himself dubs NPR "an all-white operation".
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...s_former_employer_npr_as_all_white_organ.html
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I am not surprised because shortly after being fired Williams appeared on Fox News and said that he was the only (on-air) African-American employee at NPR. When asked why Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton did not support Williams; he said "because they are in a different box than I am."
Not to change the subject, but I was personally somewhat surprised that the Jackson/Sharpton media machine wasn't all over NPR for firing Williams. Normally the Revs play the race card to the hilt. This time however they were mute.
 
The Voice of Reason said:
Not to change the subject, but I was personally somewhat surprised that the Jackson/Sharpton media machine wasn't all over NPR for firing Williams. Normally the Revs play the race card to the hilt. This time however they were mute.
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The politics card trumps the race card every time. Ask Clarence Thomas. Why do you think Limbaugh refers to the NAACP as the NAALCP?
 
TheBigA said:
Juan must find himself in a familiar environment at Fox. How many other Black show hosts or on air people there?
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Does Harris Faulkner count?
 
The Voice of Reason said:
DToTheJ said:
On the heels of the ouster of National Public Radio CEO Vivian Schiller, who oversaw the hasty termination of Juan Williams following his infamous "I get nervous when Muslims board a plane" comments on Fox News, Williams himself dubs NPR "an all-white operation".
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...s_former_employer_npr_as_all_white_organ.html
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I am not surprised because shortly after being fired Williams appeared on Fox News and said that he was the only (on-air) African-American employee at NPR. When asked why Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton did not support Williams; he said "because they are in a different box than I am."
Not to change the subject, but I was personally somewhat surprised that the Jackson/Sharpton media machine wasn't all over NPR for firing Williams. Normally the Revs play the race card to the hilt. This time however they were mute.
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You are surprised? Believe it or not, Jackson and Sharpton are "race card throwers" as you assume, they actually socially egalitarian in general, so anybody with discernment knows that Juan Williams firing wasn't worthy of any protest...
 
DToTheJ said:
On the heels of the ouster of National Public Radio CEO Vivian Schiller, who oversaw the hasty termination of Juan Williams following his infamous "I get nervous when Muslims board a plane" comments on Fox News, Williams himself dubs NPR "an all-white operation".
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...s_former_employer_npr_as_all_white_organ.html
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Wow I'm not surprised here. but its a doulble egde sword mainly because most TV audiences I didn't even know that Juan worked for NPR. Most people know him as a Fox News Pundit. Most people don't know he was fired at NPR. What were his income sources at both Fox and NPR?
 
The Voice of Reason said:
DToTheJ said:
On the heels of the ouster of National Public Radio CEO Vivian Schiller, who oversaw the hasty termination of Juan Williams following his infamous "I get nervous when Muslims board a plane" comments on Fox News, Williams himself dubs NPR "an all-white operation".
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...s_former_employer_npr_as_all_white_organ.html
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I am not surprised because shortly after being fired Williams appeared on Fox News and said that he was the only (on-air) African-American employee at NPR.
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Yeah..the only one, except Karen Grigsby Bates, Dee Dee Bridgewater, Korva Coleman, Allison Keyes, Michele Martin, Michelle Norris. and those are just the ones I found scanning through the NPR about us page.

Yeah, only one, Juan. Now tell me another story.
 
recto101 said:
DToTheJ said:
On the heels of the ouster of National Public Radio CEO Vivian Schiller, who oversaw the hasty termination of Juan Williams following his infamous "I get nervous when Muslims board a plane" comments on Fox News, Williams himself dubs NPR "an all-white operation".
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...s_former_employer_npr_as_all_white_organ.html
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Wow I'm not surprised here. but its a doulble egde sword mainly because most TV audiences I didn't even know that Juan worked for NPR. Most people know him as a Fox News Pundit. Most people don't know he was fired at NPR. What were his income sources at both Fox and NPR?
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I'm a big NPR listener, and I was barely aware that Juan Williams worked there. He didn't get a lot of air time - at least not on the major daily news programs.

Look - is it really a surprise that liberal African-American leaders (Jackson, Sharpton) didn't support a conservative?
 
Lkeller said:
Look - is it really a surprise that liberal African-American leaders (Jackson, Sharpton) didn't support a conservative?
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I haven't seen any black conservative leaders defending him either. I think he's viewed as a political opportunist.
 
TheBigA said:
Lkeller said:
Look - is it really a surprise that liberal African-American leaders (Jackson, Sharpton) didn't support a conservative?
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I haven't seen any black conservative leaders defending him either. I think he's viewed as a political opportunist.
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Could be. I've never found Williams's commentary to be especially deep or insightful. He was always just a 'sound-bite' guy. I hope this doesn't sound pseudo-intellectual, but I don't think he was NPR quality. And for the record, NPR does give airtime to intelligent conservative commentators. David Brooks is one example.

Look - both liberals and conservatives will try to push their agenda by making points when it is in their interest to do so. In the 90s, Republicans were outraged, and tried to impeach Bill Clinton for his immature sexual behavior. But the GOP went largely silent when Sen. Larry Craig was caught with his d**k hanging out in an airport restroom, or when Rep. Mark Foley was caught coming on to male interns. They didn't bother to defend Craig or Foley - they were an embarrassment. But they would have been apoplectic if Democrats were caught doing the same thing.

The point is: both sides cherry-pick their scandals and controversies to suit their points of view, and there is plenty of hypocrisy on both sides.
 
Lkeller said:
I hope this doesn't sound pseudo-intellectual, but I don't think he was NPR quality.
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I think they found that out. They made him host of a regular show, and he was terrible. So they reduced him to commentator.

He's kind of a one trick pony who wrote a great book 30 years ago, and has lived off that ever since. Nice work if you can get it.
 
recto101 said:
Did Juan Williams get a pay raise at Fox when he got "fired " from NPR?
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Are you kidding>? Yes, of course. Roger Ailes can recognize an opportunity when he sees one. Juan was given a new contract with a big increase in $$.

The irritating thing is, NPR and liberals in general are incredibly naive, and keep making moves that feed the Fox News machine, and give them fodder to deny future funding to NPR.
 
Lkeller said:
recto101 said:
Did Juan Williams get a pay raise at Fox when he got "fired " from NPR?
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Are you kidding>? Yes, of course. Roger Ailes can recognize an opportunity when he sees one. Juan was given a new contract with a big increase in $$.

The irritating thing is, NPR and liberals in general are incredibly naive, and keep making moves that feed the Fox News machine, and give them fodder to deny future funding to NPR.
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Juan Williams has to be the front man that sent this Ashton Kutcher /Chris Hansen Wannabe (as Jon Stewart described it) to go after one of the NPR management on Hidden camera. and aired it on Fox news so he can his friends in Congress to justify the defunding of NPR and PBS. and its the same Wannabe guy who took down Acorn in 2008-2009.
 
Lkeller said:
David Brooks is one example.
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David Brooks, who describes himself as a "moderate conservative", is the only example you can name, and is a profoundly poor example of a conservative. If he has any conservative convictions, he is impotent when it comes to expressing them. I've watched him on PBS routinely getting run over by Mark Shields.

NPR and PBS are so out of touch with middle America, they not only fail to realize how far left they are, actually think they're balanced. Typical PBS balance: Washington Week with Gwen Ifill. Her panelists were Doyle McManus from the LA Times, Dan Balz from the Washington Post and Karen Tumulty from the Washington Post. As expected, it was a defense of Barack Obama in his budget battles and criticism of Scott Walker in Wisconsin without a hint of a viewpoint from the conservative side.
 
dhett said:
Lkeller said:
David Brooks is one example.
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David Brooks, who describes himself as a "moderate conservative", is the only example you can name, and is a profoundly poor example of a conservative. If he has any conservative convictions, he is impotent when it comes to expressing them. I've watched him on PBS routinely getting run over by Mark Shields.

NPR and PBS are so out of touch with middle America, they not only fail to realize how far left they are, actually think they're balanced. Typical PBS balance: Washington Week with Gwen Ifill. Her panelists were Doyle McManus from the LA Times, Dan Balz from the Washington Post and Karen Tumulty from the Washington Post. As expected, it was a defense of Barack Obama in his budget battles and criticism of Scott Walker in Wisconsin without a hint of a viewpoint from the conservative side.
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Oh brother, here come somebody else with the "out of touch with Middle America" mantra...this discussion is done because it's officially driven itself into a ditch... ::)
 
dhett said:
As expected, it was a defense of Barack Obama in his budget battles and criticism of Scott Walker in Wisconsin without a hint of a viewpoint from the conservative side.
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This isn't a show with pundits or commentators. These are reporters. They aren't giving either side. Just talking about the nuts and bolts of politics, which is a very different game. It's not about right vs. left, but power. Who is likely to win and who is likely to lose. For those who don't play the power game, it's easy to think it's all about ideology. It's not. If you want to hear ideology without a hint of the other side, just stick around for Bill Moyers. Then you'll learn what the left is all about. That's a very different show and even I find myself screaming at my TV.
 
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