I love radio, well to be more accurate I love "good" radio, I don't need great just good. After yesterday I tell ya' regular radio is now just 4th option for me, after XM, and Podcast, & silence. I have lived in the Atlanta market off and on for the past 28 years since my family moved here when I was young from North Carolina. I worked in radio for a little while ( how I found this site) but damn, it's just 4 - 5 stations split across the dial now. I come on here and see people who should know better wonder why stations aren't doing well in the market. Let's be more honest why "free/ ad driven" radio is failing across the county. The lack of sound diversity is killing this industry. people make fun of Dave but they were the only station in the city playing different music, and with the death sentience looming overhead they are taking risk that and really playing some cool stuff now (the chill out show is so original in this market I thought it was college radio at first.) too bad it's going to end soon. I wish all of you in the "biz" who are on air "talent" the best because most of you will be out of job in ten years replaced by tapes/steams and dime a dozen shows that all sound the same. NPR, is the only preset I have kept as even they play a more diverse playlist than anything by CC & Cumulus lol. We don't need more sports talk, urban , CHR, or country in this city. We need good local radio, however the future just doesn't look bright for it.
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Thank God for Satellite radio...
- Thread starter DaDeacon
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Sirius/XM is all I really listen to anymore. I have my specific formats I like, I listen to them and I'm happy. Too bad Sirius/XM managed to get the monopoly on the satellite radio format. I liked when there was a choice between the two and the merger is a perfect example of how such mergers are not beneficial for consumers.
Consumers want specifics, I think. Satellite provides that...providers like Pandora and Spotify provide it. Terrestrial radio gives consumers something I call umbrella formats. I think specific non-mainstream formats do much better in certain cities...such as hard rock in Milwaukee/Chicago in the 70s and 80s or alternative music in Seattle/Atlanta in the 90's. But umbrella radio does well everywhere. I'm sure it's a costly process, but you'd think that terrestrial radio would be trying harder to do this, too.
You'd think that terrestrial radio would be trying to figure out how to mimic the genre-specific model a little more. I think HD radio had great potential by allowing on stations/formats to split into sub formats, it's unfortunate that it didn't have the same kind of push like DTV did.
Consumers want specifics, I think. Satellite provides that...providers like Pandora and Spotify provide it. Terrestrial radio gives consumers something I call umbrella formats. I think specific non-mainstream formats do much better in certain cities...such as hard rock in Milwaukee/Chicago in the 70s and 80s or alternative music in Seattle/Atlanta in the 90's. But umbrella radio does well everywhere. I'm sure it's a costly process, but you'd think that terrestrial radio would be trying harder to do this, too.
You'd think that terrestrial radio would be trying to figure out how to mimic the genre-specific model a little more. I think HD radio had great potential by allowing on stations/formats to split into sub formats, it's unfortunate that it didn't have the same kind of push like DTV did.
Aren't all Sirius/XM music formats voice tracked? And isn't that what we all complain about on terrestrial radio?
RoddyFreeman said:
Go to tunein radio, they have everything under the universe and then some, with no commercials. Don't waste your money on Sirius/XM...
http://tunein.com/
I love my tune in app but it buffers like hell. I make sure its on a lower stream and depending on time of day, it could buffer to a point where you can't even listen. I have a droid 2 and I use verizon. Anyone know a way around this? Satellite radar may be better if the tune in app gives so much difficulty. I heart is no better but I perfer my commercial free internet stations anyway.
microbob said:
My source is Arbitron. But there are quite a few that confirm the same thing.
Satellite audiences are actually declining, thanks to the cost and repetition. When it comes to internet, what we see is that people use the internet to listen to OTA stations. Same thing with cellphones. So the audience for radio isn't declining, but the platform is changing. We can see that in Triton's internet radio ratings. Also, white male 18-34s might prefer Pandora, but females, Blacks, Hispanics 18-34 are big OTA users. So that's what's keeping the numbers about the same, and as the population shifts, OTA may actually rise.
Well, sounds like speculation. I don't think satellite is declining based on their stock price and their latest sub figures, they are gaining more subs each quarter and liberty is in the process of taking the company over. Pandora recently reported gains in profit and listeners as well.
Urban radio is not a money maker as advertisers are pulling out and Radio One is still having financial problems. I guess it depends on which side of the coin you are on.
Urban radio is not a money maker as advertisers are pulling out and Radio One is still having financial problems. I guess it depends on which side of the coin you are on.
microbob said:
It's not. But if you have some facts, post 'em.
microbob said:
Their stock is going up because they're being taken over by Liberty Media. Subscriptions are holding steady, but due to complaints from users, the representatives are giving out huge discounts for plans. Take a look over at the satellite radio board and read what people there say. Liberty isn't spending money to buy Sirius so they can spend more money on formats and services. Once they get it, you'll see huge cuts in services.
microbob said:
Radio One is having financial problems because it's poorly run, not because urban radio isn't a money maker. Lots of companies with urban stations are doing very well. Your post is the one that sounds like speculation.
Sirius/XM tried to give me half off after my trial ran out on my new car. I told them politely, no. Even at $4.00 per month, the audio quality is so bad it isn't worth $4.00. The lady on the phone laughed and said, "I know, I'm so sorry." She didn't even try to push a better deal on me.
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